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Any Future for Nightblades? Devs contribute pls
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Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭For PVP, numbers for AOE dps will be drastically lower than in PVE.
In PVP last night, I got 1k dps sustained for over 30 seconds (for about 32k total damage) last night, using sap essence and veil of blades, against fairly decent opposition. I also got a 1.3k dps parse for about 14 seconds while tanking 6 people during using veil of blades and sap essence.0 -
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✭For PVP, numbers for AOE dps will be drastically lower than in PVE.
In PVP last night, I got 1k dps sustained for over 30 seconds (for about 32k total damage) last night, using sap essence and veil of blades, against fairly decent opposition. I also got a 1.3k dps parse for about 14 seconds while tanking 6 people during using veil of blades and sap essence.
what program are you using to test that?Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
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✭Pvp numbers are invalid especially with aoe as you cannot reliably test them as the resistances and buffs etc are unknown.1 -
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✭Pvp numbers are invalid especially with aoe as you cannot reliably test them as the resistances and buffs etc are unknown.
Sort of irrelevant what damage you get on mobs in practice though, since the disparity is so large.
At least if you intend to look at pvp numbers.
Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭
I haven't had time to play that much in pvp in 1.4 so far, but a typical sustained single target dps (with no use of stealth) for me is around 275-350 if all i'm doing is firing at the opposition. If the opposition has a ton of shields/mitigation stacked, then my dps drop closer to 200 and possibly lower than 200. This is LA + resto build with 147 spell damage inside cyrodiil (151 outside of cyrodiil due to different soft caps) using funnel health as the main attack. So after the resto staff nerf is in place, I'll have 10% less.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.
For AOE damage, I get around 550-750 for standard situations. In dense fights, 1-1.3k can be reached with veil of blades. Sap essence is the only AOE skill I use.
BTW, to get the timer stats on FTC, you have to bring up the dps printout page. This is usually done by setting a hotkey to that page, which isn't set by default.Edited by Aeratus on September 24, 2014 6:42PM0 -
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I haven't had time to play that much in pvp in 1.4 so far, but a typical sustained single target dps for me is around 275-350. If the opposition has a ton of shields/mitigation stacked, then my dps drop closer to 200 and possibly lower than 200. This is LA + resto build with 147 spell damage inside cyrodiil (151 outside of cyrodiil due to different soft caps). So after the resto staff nerf is in place, I'll have 10% less.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.
For AOE damage, I get around 550-750 for standard situations. In dense fights, 1-1.3k can be reached with veil of blades. Sap essence is the only AOE skill I use.
BTW, to get the timer stats on FTC, you have to bring up the dps printout page. This is usually done by setting a hotkey to that page, which isn't set by default.
awesome, thanks a ton. BTW, if I am running heals, and I pop sap essence, will it also boost my heals?
In theory it seems like it would work this way...Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
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✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
I haven't had time to play that much in pvp in 1.4 so far, but a typical sustained single target dps for me is around 275-350. If the opposition has a ton of shields/mitigation stacked, then my dps drop closer to 200 and possibly lower than 200. This is LA + resto build with 147 spell damage inside cyrodiil (151 outside of cyrodiil due to different soft caps). So after the resto staff nerf is in place, I'll have 10% less.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.
For AOE damage, I get around 550-750 for standard situations. In dense fights, 1-1.3k can be reached with veil of blades. Sap essence is the only AOE skill I use.
BTW, to get the timer stats on FTC, you have to bring up the dps printout page. This is usually done by setting a hotkey to that page, which isn't set by default.
awesome, thanks a ton. BTW, if I am running heals, and I pop sap essence, will it also boost my heals?
In theory it seems like it would work this way...
Yup, both the sap tic and the bonus damage will increase your heal output. Resto heals do scale off weapon damage.
Edited by Shunravi on September 24, 2014 6:19PMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!2 -
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Actually, you can get a pretty sleek ninja-like appearance with light armor if you have the right motifs, a jerkin rather than a robe, and dye it all black.I cannot believe that a bunch of you guys post some stats, give a stave to nb's hand and dress him up in gown or pjamas and pass him as "a working NB". That might work a little but that is not an NB, that is a freak!
On the other hand, for medium armor user that wear the ophidian helm, or pretend to look like shredder (bosmer motif), or wear a big skull on their face (barbaric motif)...I think they look more like freaks to me!0 -
Redlag✭✭✭With reducing the internal CD of Weapon Swings, your attack speed is increased.
Got damn, so many whines. Did I missed that Nightblades are made for Emos?![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
What a joke. This is your build. You posted it on page one.
Destruction Staff:
- Crushing Shock
- Crippling Grasp
- Funnel Health
- Impale
- Mass Hysteria
- Flawless Dawnbreaker
Restoration Staff:
- Quick Syphon (Grand Healing in Grp PvP)
- Rapid Regeneration
- Healing Ward
- Shadow Image (Teleport Morph)
- Dark Cloak
- Veil of Blades
You're horrible. Talking about NB whines. This crappy build. You've already admitted you run with groups. You should close your mouth and let NBs that are actually not being carried by a group have their discussion. You're calling them whiners because you're ignorant of the fact that you have 0 DPs and 0 Hps against my DK.
It's frustrating that we not only have to deal with our issues but deal with ignorance from a guy being carried so hard by his friends that he doesn't even understand how crappy of a player he is with a crappy build. Telling us that we're whiners.
Yet look at your build. Spell Reflect nullifies you down to spam healing ward and rapid regen for your friends. You aren't killing me. I am a raid boss to you. A monster. You shouldn't waste your time arguing against people who understand this class and want meaningful changes that don't overpower us. Everyone can run a resto staff and spam Ward and Rapid Regen. You have zero class power. Spell reflect. Good bye. Shutty.
Oh and everyone running this build with Shades with teleport morph or double shades. . I was running my DK against this build yesterday and had a difference in my rotation after he ran me dry on stamina with his shade. It went Spell Reflect, /lol, Lava whip, /lol, Talons, /lol, Spell reflect. Because who cares if you run me out of stamina. I don't need stamina against your build. You can't stun me. You don't have a stun on your bar. LMAO at bad players.
Edited by Redlag on September 24, 2014 6:44PM6 -
GoatKnuckle✭✭✭With reducing the internal CD of Weapon Swings, your attack speed is increased.
Got damn, so many whines. Did I missed that Nightblades are made for Emos?
What a joke. This is your build. You posted it on page one.
Destruction Staff:
- Crushing Shock
- Crippling Grasp
- Funnel Health
- Impale
- Mass Hysteria
- Flawless Dawnbreaker
Restoration Staff:
- Quick Syphon (Grand Healing in Grp PvP)
- Rapid Regeneration
- Healing Ward
- Shadow Image (Teleport Morph)
- Dark Cloak
- Veil of Blades
You're horrible. Talking about NB whines. This crappy build. You've already admitted you run with groups. You should close your mouth and let NBs that are actually not being carried by a group have their discussion. You're calling them whiners because you're ignorant of the fact that you have 0 DPs and 0 Hps against my DK.
It's frustrating that we not only have to deal with our issues but deal with ignorance from a guy being carried so hard by his friends that he doesn't even understand how crappy of a player he is with a crappy build. Telling us that we're whiners.
Yet look at your build. Spell Reflect nullifies you down to spam healing ward and rapid regen for your friends. You aren't killing me. I am a raid boss to you. A monster. You shouldn't waste your time arguing against people who understand this class and want meaningful changes that don't overpower us. Everyone can run a resto staff and spam Ward and Rapid Regen. You have zero class power. Spell reflect. Good bye. Shutty.
Yep, you're definitely not whining...3 -
GnatB✭✭✭✭They build class abilities around stealth and sneak but then don't give all NBs the tools to take advantage of those things..
Eh? I'm not sure I'd call 1 active and 2 passives, that are affected by sneak (and work equally with invis) "building class abilities around stealth and sneak". And heck, all the active does is add an extra stun from sneak (and increase stealth speed, if you take that morph).
Oh, and P.S. In all the previous Elder Scrolls games, the "Nightblade" class was a mage/magic specialization class.Edited by GnatB on September 24, 2014 7:46PMAchievements Suck3 -
Redlag✭✭✭GoatKnuckle wrote: »Yep, you're definitely not whining...
And you definitely have no argument to what I've said. I've nullified his entire build with one spell, reducing him to a weak resto healer. Which he sounds like a group support healer in the first place telling me, when I try to create a siphon dps ranged build, that NBs are fine.
All I'm asking for is Path of Darkness to tick harder and make you immune to roots and snares while in it and to make Drain Power to hit a bit harder as a counter to spell reflect and usable in small scale (less the 4 targets) so it can go on my bar. Nothing overpowering.
Edited by Redlag on September 24, 2014 10:44PM2 -
Tamanous✭✭✭✭✭Love the defenders of broken class skills: Use a fire destro staff and spam Impulse!
Hello let's just forget any bug in game! Use Impulse and it won't matter if 50% of your class skills are useless!
If you use Impulse as your main source of dps please do not even contribute to this argument.3 -
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I haven't had time to play that much in pvp in 1.4 so far, but a typical sustained single target dps for me is around 275-350. If the opposition has a ton of shields/mitigation stacked, then my dps drop closer to 200 and possibly lower than 200. This is LA + resto build with 147 spell damage inside cyrodiil (151 outside of cyrodiil due to different soft caps). So after the resto staff nerf is in place, I'll have 10% less.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.
For AOE damage, I get around 550-750 for standard situations. In dense fights, 1-1.3k can be reached with veil of blades. Sap essence is the only AOE skill I use.
BTW, to get the timer stats on FTC, you have to bring up the dps printout page. This is usually done by setting a hotkey to that page, which isn't set by default.
awesome, thanks a ton. BTW, if I am running heals, and I pop sap essence, will it also boost my heals?
In theory it seems like it would work this way...They build class abilities around stealth and sneak but then don't give all NBs the tools to take advantage of those things..
Eh? I'm not sure I'd call 1 active and 2 passives, that are affected by sneak (and work equally with invis) "building class abilities around stealth and sneak". And heck, all the active does is add an extra stun from sneak (and increase stealth speed, if you take that morph).
Oh, and P.S. In all the previous Elder Scrolls games, the "Nightblade" class was a mage/magic specialization class.
Actually it was a thief class that used magic to aid it.
The rundown on each game's version of nightblades has been done before.
I'm really tired of people being obtuse and pretending like nightblades weren't built to be thieves/assassins. Shadow and assassination skill lines say otherwise.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
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✭The real problem is NBs have never had all of their skills working at any one time. I get used to playing a certain way and then next week I feel like I am launching my head against the wall; certainly compared with other classes.
I have no idea if my NB is just not very viable at any particular time is due to an ill-thought-out/poorly-designed class or just plain bugs or a combination.
Just saying ...
I think you have hit the nail on the head1 -
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Funnel Health is a self heal.
There's also passives that increase armor and spell resist for X seconds when exitting stealth.
Boom. mitigation.Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade
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GnatB✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
I haven't had time to play that much in pvp in 1.4 so far, but a typical sustained single target dps for me is around 275-350. If the opposition has a ton of shields/mitigation stacked, then my dps drop closer to 200 and possibly lower than 200. This is LA + resto build with 147 spell damage inside cyrodiil (151 outside of cyrodiil due to different soft caps). So after the resto staff nerf is in place, I'll have 10% less.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.
For AOE damage, I get around 550-750 for standard situations. In dense fights, 1-1.3k can be reached with veil of blades. Sap essence is the only AOE skill I use.
BTW, to get the timer stats on FTC, you have to bring up the dps printout page. This is usually done by setting a hotkey to that page, which isn't set by default.
awesome, thanks a ton. BTW, if I am running heals, and I pop sap essence, will it also boost my heals?
In theory it seems like it would work this way...They build class abilities around stealth and sneak but then don't give all NBs the tools to take advantage of those things..
Eh? I'm not sure I'd call 1 active and 2 passives, that are affected by sneak (and work equally with invis) "building class abilities around stealth and sneak". And heck, all the active does is add an extra stun from sneak (and increase stealth speed, if you take that morph).
Oh, and P.S. In all the previous Elder Scrolls games, the "Nightblade" class was a mage/magic specialization class.
Actually it was a thief class that used magic to aid it.
The rundown on each game's version of nightblades has been done before.
I'm really tired of people being obtuse and pretending like nightblades weren't built to be thieves/assassins. Shadow and assassination skill lines say otherwise.
Why, because of their names? Only 4 skills in those lines actually involve stealth at all. The shadow skill line is mostly about shadow/dark magic in general. (To be honest, the sorc line arguably should have been called something else) Assassinate is pretty much just pure 1 on 1 damage. Guess assassins aren't necessarily sneaking around?Achievements Suck3 -
Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭Nightblade means different things to different people. While many consider stealth to be the core of the NB class, my playstyle has always centered around the siphoning tree, rather than the stealth part of the shadow tree (which basically is just 1 active skill out of several active skills in the shadow tree). This was so even when I played a bow/dw stamina NB (which i played until v7 or so, prior to craglorn), and I rarely slotted the cloak skill at all.
"Assassin" is interesting in that modern portrayal of assassins do not really involve stealth (see Assassin's Creed). Instead, assassin is more about combat rather than stealth (which is directly opposite of what they were historically).
I also agree with the above post that the Shadow tree is more about shadow magic in general, rather than stealth per se.Edited by Aeratus on September 25, 2014 1:28AM1 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭Your issue is mainly that you wanna play NB the "stamina" way, Stam builds are in a pretty bad spot atm. Stamina builds arent a NB problem, Magicka built NB are just as powerful as any other class, I play only NB and people call me OP. Only thing I want is our skills to have a purpose for all types of builds (Haste,path of darkness, agony) & Darkcloak to work. Thats mainly it.2 -
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✭Some skills need to be fixed because they don't always work as intended, but I don't really know why you are having issues. NB from ESO lore is a magicka user. I do wicked DPS with my restore staff build and almost never die in pve. I solo just about everything. We have skills that keep our magicka and stamina constantly up, we do have self heals, and I gain ultimate at a ridiculous rate. In PvP I am still magicka based, wearing all light armor, restore staff on one bar and sword and board on the other. Attack by surprise and switch back and forth between ranged and melee range to confuse the enemy. DK puts up dragon scales? Stop using ranged attack and switch to melee then back and forth. We all know the most common builds, if you don't then learn them and come up with a strategy for killing those builds.Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!3 -
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✭✭Oh, and P.S. In all the previous Elder Scrolls games, the "Nightblade" class was a mage/magic specialization class.
Perhaps but... ESO NBs are not NBs from previous games. If that were true other 3 classes would be direct counterparts to classes from previous ES games too. This is not the case however. There were no Templars and Dragon Knights in previous games and ESO Sorcerors arent Morrowind or Oblivion Sorcerers. The 4 classes in ESO are broader categories, each including a couple of archetypes. Depending on your build the NB class should provide a variety of playstyles with the common theme of darkness, stealth and mobility (...and if you go by NB class description in ESO, blades). A sorc should provide playstyles with the common theme of arcane knowledge. The ESO NB contains the archetypes of rogue, agent, assassin, nightblade, etc. from previous games. The Sorc contains the archetypes of mage, battlemage, spellsword, etc.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.3 -
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Nb have two self heals. Funnel health, and restoring path. Both of which also generate insane ultimate.
As with everyone else you can also learn resto staff.4 -
thorspark✭✭✭AssaultLemming wrote: »Nb have two self heals. Funnel health, and restoring path. Both of which also generate insane ultimate.
As with everyone else you can also learn resto staff.
You gotta be kidding.
Funnel Health : Not only does this skill require a target, but the heal is insanely low. 130 hp (at best) every 2 seconds is not even near every other class self heal.
Refreshing Path : Yeah, 26 hp per second, good heal.
Resto Staff : Won't even bother to respond to this.
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Redlag✭✭✭deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »Some skills need to be fixed because they don't always work as intended, but I don't really know why you are having issues. NB from ESO lore is a magicka user. I do wicked DPS with my restore staff build and almost never die in pve. I solo just about everything. We have skills that keep our magicka and stamina constantly up, we do have self heals, and I gain ultimate at a ridiculous rate. In PvP I am still magicka based, wearing all light armor, restore staff on one bar and sword and board on the other. Attack by surprise and switch back and forth between ranged and melee range to confuse the enemy. DK puts up dragon scales? Stop using ranged attack and switch to melee then back and forth. We all know the most common builds, if you don't then learn them and come up with a strategy for killing those builds.
Ya I agree, when I use dragon scale please come and melee my Dk. I have Lava whips that does 500 dps and talons that add another 150-200 when accounting ticks. Please, I agree with you. Dks are fodder. Bring into me your 250-300 surprise attacks. Im sure I'll die soon enough after healing myself. You are right. I see the errors of my ways. Nbs should just melee the DKs.
Edited by Redlag on September 25, 2014 8:22AM3 -
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I can run with that build solo as well and I can tell you I can even kill VR14 with it, even though I am only VR3. And that without a Stealth Hit opener.You're horrible. Talking about NB whines. This crappy build. You've already admitted you run with groups. You should close your mouth and let NBs that are actually not being carried by a group have their discussion. You're calling them whiners because you're ignorant of the fact that you have 0 DPs and 0 Hps against my DK.
Ofc. is my DPS bad against a Refelect spamming DK, but that issue has any Caster currently, cause to many skills are refferd for projectiles that are not one, like Crushing Shock f.e.
But hey, your DPS is 0 as well, if you can`t hit me during fears and my constant teleports. And if I am bored with you, I just cloack after teleport and move on to the next fight.It's frustrating that we not only have to deal with our issues but deal with ignorance from a guy being carried so hard by his friends that he doesn't even understand how crappy of a player he is with a crappy build. Telling us that we're whiners.
My Singletarget DPS in PvP at Vr3 is around 400. Good enough, cause I am no main Healer, I am a DD Support, like Shadow Priest in World of Warcraft.
If this is a Grp fight, I don't have to attack you. There are others without Reflect, I will just place my 15% DMG Debuff on you and if you will try to attack me you will run of in fear.Yet look at your build. Spell Reflect nullifies you down to spam healing ward and rapid regen for your friends. You aren't killing me. I am a raid boss to you. A monster.1 -
Redlag✭✭✭Who cares if you fear me. If I maintain spell reflect at all times. You wont get me to 75% of my health for your fear to matter. Refresh me. How do you dps someone with this build if they have spell reflect up 100% of the time? How? There isn't anything but funnel health and crush shock.. Live in your theories and hardcore talk. But your fear is nothing to me. Because you cant even damage me. AT all. Zero. Nill. None. Damage. Slot your shades, but your funnel health and crush shuck don't matter. Your fear doesn't matter. Even after I am out of stamina, because if I maintain my reflect you aren't 100 to zeroing me in your fear. You do not matter to me. You aint killing me and I haven't died on my Dk to a solo NB except for an archer who did tons of dps before I could respond. Keep talking big thinking people will think you're good. The people who also play your class know youre siphon build isn't killing a DK. THE END.
And admit it. If youre running that build all a DK has to do is keep up spell reflect. Say it. It's true and if you don't say it you're just trying to appear better than you are. You're no good anyways, because your trash post omits that spell reflect negates that build completely. Just say it man. I'm a naughty girl. I like it hard. I can take it. Give it to me. I can handle it. LAVA WHIP LAVA WHIP. Whose your daddy. Say my name. Take it. Take it. Say it. Say it. What's my name. At least your girlfriend knows what it really sounds like. Even if it's not you making her.
SHADDUP!!! Please youre embarrassing yourselg copying builds from NBs that solo trash strays on youtube dude. Im so laughing at you.
Edit: Oh and right now instead of playing you on my Dk in pvp. Im running my NB testing teleporting strikes and surprise attacks. For now, at this moment. All Im seeing is latency nullify my opener into non-crits. Surprise surprise.
Edited by Redlag on September 25, 2014 9:26AM4 -
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✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
I haven't had time to play that much in pvp in 1.4 so far, but a typical sustained single target dps for me is around 275-350. If the opposition has a ton of shields/mitigation stacked, then my dps drop closer to 200 and possibly lower than 200. This is LA + resto build with 147 spell damage inside cyrodiil (151 outside of cyrodiil due to different soft caps). So after the resto staff nerf is in place, I'll have 10% less.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Also, how are you getting this from FTC, person that replied to me. I get floaty numbers and have a bar that gives me numbers recalculated periodically, but I never pull in that kind of damage.
For AOE damage, I get around 550-750 for standard situations. In dense fights, 1-1.3k can be reached with veil of blades. Sap essence is the only AOE skill I use.
BTW, to get the timer stats on FTC, you have to bring up the dps printout page. This is usually done by setting a hotkey to that page, which isn't set by default.
awesome, thanks a ton. BTW, if I am running heals, and I pop sap essence, will it also boost my heals?
In theory it seems like it would work this way...They build class abilities around stealth and sneak but then don't give all NBs the tools to take advantage of those things..
Eh? I'm not sure I'd call 1 active and 2 passives, that are affected by sneak (and work equally with invis) "building class abilities around stealth and sneak". And heck, all the active does is add an extra stun from sneak (and increase stealth speed, if you take that morph).
Oh, and P.S. In all the previous Elder Scrolls games, the "Nightblade" class was a mage/magic specialization class.
Actually it was a thief class that used magic to aid it.
The rundown on each game's version of nightblades has been done before.
I'm really tired of people being obtuse and pretending like nightblades weren't built to be thieves/assassins. Shadow and assassination skill lines say otherwise.
Smeep- Luv you man but your wrong.
No matter how you slice it when looking at NB's they are mages first. Always have been. Previous incarnations of NB are the inspiration for the class in ESO. Discount that then your talking out your hole.
TES NB Major skill = Magic. Their secondary skills = All that other rogue crap and not even that really. You'd be closer to the truth saying the NB is a mage that uses magic to aid and augment other skills.
Be upset all you want NB is what it is and it ain't no "thief." Blame ZoS for not putting in a classic rogue for ESO, but don't try to make the NB class something it isn't.
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To be fair, NB purists need to know the NB was intended to be the rogue type in ESO. There's no denying that. They also gave a great deal of latitude to the build to try to accommodate classic builds but pretty much jacked it up. With only 4 main classes taking the place of 20 classes something has to give and there really should be room for the different build types in the game... AND THERE would BE is NB skills worked as they were supposed to and Stamina builds weren't playing second fiddle.
So smeep I get it, but saying a NB was a thief is just way off.Edited by Vizier on September 25, 2014 10:01AM2 -
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And you don`t get it, that this is no issue of the Nightblade class. ANY Caster, no matter if Sorcerer, Nightblade, DK or Templar that uses Staffs is completly screwed agains that one skill of DKs. But be sure, if all DKs start spamming it, it will be nerfed to the ground quiete fast.Who cares if you fear me. If I maintain spell reflect at all times. You wont get me to 75% of my health for your fear to matter. Refresh me. How do you dps someone with this build if they have spell reflect up 100% of the time? How? There isn't anything but funnel health and crush shock.. Live in your theories and hardcore talk. But your fear is nothing to me. Because you cant even damage me. AT all. Zero. Nill. None. Damage. Slot your shades, but your funnel health and crush shuck don't matter. Your fear doesn't matter. Even after I am out of stamina, because if I maintain my reflect you aren't 100 to zeroing me in your fear. You do not matter to me. You aint killing me and I haven't died on my Dk to a solo NB except for an archer who did tons of dps before I could respond. Keep talking big thinking people will think you're good. The people who also play your class know youre siphon build isn't killing a DK. THE END.
If I wanted to counter your specific Build, I would go with 1H+S and Resto Staff and just reflect your reflected spells.
Yes it is that way, cause spell reflect is just another way to strong skill of many that DKs got. Nothing new here, we all know that ZOS has a special love for this class.And admit it. If youre running that build all a DK has to do is keep up spell reflect. Say it. It's true and if you don't say it you're just trying to appear better than you are.
How many NBs, Sorcerer and Templar are out there with Spell Reflect? So I don`t care about one class, that has currently one overpowered skill.You're no good anyways, because your trash post omits that spell reflect negates that build completely. Just say it man.
Like LOTRO: One Skill to rule them all.
I would more say, your are a kid and your decision for a DK was a FOTM decision.I'm a naughty girl.Edited by Kego on September 25, 2014 9:40AM0