Guild traders, fishing for sales??
AlexDougherty
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Recently I've been noticing some odd things on sale via the Guild Traders, very odd.
Ok the shield I can get, because if someone buys it they get extra XP for the deconstruction. Someone might buy it.
The low level Mats, anyone who wants them, will want them unrefined. That way the can refine them themselves and get the temprs for item improvement. If you have refined them yourself, use them to create stuff to sell.
The Fish and Sell to Vendor Items though, why put them through a Guild Trader?, they are literally junk items you sell to a regular vendor. Nobody in their right mind will buy them.
Edited by AlexDougherty on September 24, 2014 3:35PM - A shield with the Intricate Trait (gain more xp from deconstructing it)
- Fish, white fish not the kind that unlocks achievements.
- Items marked "sell to vendor for gold" (some priced more than you get for selling to a vendor).
- Low level refined mats.
Ok the shield I can get, because if someone buys it they get extra XP for the deconstruction. Someone might buy it.
The low level Mats, anyone who wants them, will want them unrefined. That way the can refine them themselves and get the temprs for item improvement. If you have refined them yourself, use them to create stuff to sell.
The Fish and Sell to Vendor Items though, why put them through a Guild Trader?, they are literally junk items you sell to a regular vendor. Nobody in their right mind will buy them.
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AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, some people don't get the fact that junk items are to be sold to a vendor. On top of that, the Guild Store's "price suggestion" when you list it is three times what you can get from a vendor, so it makes no sense to buy it.
As for refined mats, they do sell. Some people are levelling their crafting, or just need a stack of a mat that's not in their zone so they can make armor for an alt or a friend. Of course, unrefined stuff sells for much higher, but refined mats have a market too.The Moot Councillor3 -
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✭✭Yeah, some people don't get the fact that junk items are to be sold to a vendor. On top of that, the Guild Store's "price suggestion" when you list it is three times what you can get from a vendor, so it makes no sense to buy it.
As for refined mats, they do sell. Some people are levelling their crafting, or just need a stack of a mat that's not in their zone so they can make armor for an alt or a friend. Of course, unrefined stuff sells for much higher, but refined mats have a market too.
Yeah, I came on a bit too strong with the refined mats, it just makes more sense to buy them unrefined.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭✭✭✭✭I will buy a stack of refined mats just because I don't want to Farm for them anymore. If I can throw 600 to 800 gold at a Guild Vendor and get a stack of refined mats, I am good to go. I have tons of Racials, Tempers and Trait Gems, and am maxed out on Crafting skills so no real need to Refine. Besides, right now, Refined are cheap, Raw are expensive generally. (I understand why, I just don't need to Refine anymore)
Now, I do have a chuckle about how Trash items end up in the Guild Markets, especially at prices higher than I can sell them to a Vendor for (the only ones who buy them) Perhaps these folks are new to the game and don't understand that no one will buy someone else's trash for more than the game will buy them for.
I would think the Guild Master could remove items from the listings. I mean, I think there is an upper limit on how much a Guild Store can list for sale (maybe there is not a limit). But if there is, the trash would take away Slots to list legitimate items for sale.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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✭✭Now, I do have a chuckle about how Trash items end up in the Guild Markets, especially at prices higher than I can sell them to a Vendor for (the only ones who buy them) Perhaps these folks are new to the game and don't understand that no one will buy someone else's trash for more than the game will buy them for.
I would think the Guild Master could remove items from the listings. I mean, I think there is an upper limit on how much a Guild Store can list for sale (maybe there is not a limit). But if there is, the trash would take away Slots to list legitimate items for sale.
That was where I was going, I just got a bit sidetracked with the other stuff, but the fish and junk items were the key part.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, it's all a question of price. If I can buy 3 stacks of refined for the same price I can find an unrefined stack for, it really depends on what I want to do right then and there. Make 50 daggers or possibly get a Temperin Alloy?
I've sold stacks of unrefined for prices that I wouldn't pay myself. I'd go and gather a stack myself instead.The Moot Councillor0 -
Sindala✭✭✭✭✭3 stacks for A tempering alloy?
From 30 goes it's more like 10 alloys with the right craft buffs selected
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✭3 stacks for A tempering alloy?
From 30 goes it's more like 10 alloys with the right craft buffs selected
what fantasy world are you living in? I am maxed on all crafting skills but keen eye and I don't get anywhere near that return.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
Vuron✭✭✭✭✭I buy refined, beginning level mats when I don't feel like spending the time to harvest. I use the mats to move around traits and don't need to spend any skill points to be able to craft higher level items with some of my alts, but they can still create the necessary level 1 items.
Not to start another discussion on an already beat to death topic, but the lack of an AH means that newer players have no baseline for what sells, what doesn't, and the value of items. I still see players spamming chat in lower level zones trying to sell crap green weapons or armor, racial stones, and any number of readily available items.
These new players are jumping into crafting/trading guilds as soon as they start and are just doing the same thing they'd do in zone chat.
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✭✭Not been keeping an eye on it myself, I know I get Tempering alloys, but I have no idea what my rate of return is.
But the main point was people putting stuff on the guild traders which are frankly ridiculous. Like common fish, or items like Supple Root, these are overpriced and junk.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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✭✭These new players are jumping into crafting/trading guilds as soon as they start and are just doing the same thing they'd do in zone chat.
Yes, and in chat they would get told what's junk.
Please note I'm agreeing with you.Edited by AlexDougherty on September 24, 2014 4:21PMPeople believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Potenza✭✭✭✭✭The only thing I make and sell now are all white items with traits for those who need them for research. I sell them at the recommended price which is a good buy and I sell a lot of them. I don't even bother with selling mats anymore because they hardly ever sold. Most people get the mats on their own I guess.0 -
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✭j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »The only thing I make and sell now are all white items with traits for those who need them for research. I sell them at the recommended price which is a good buy and I sell a lot of them. I don't even bother with selling mats anymore because they hardly ever sold. Most people get the mats on their own I guess.
do you just put them up in guild stores or what?
Is that lucrative in and of itself?Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
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✭✭Finding junk items in guild stores isn't new, it's just more visible now with the guild kiosk system. I figure it's stuff listed by new players who don't know what things are worth.
I buy stacks of refined cheap mats for under 500 gold to make armor for low level alts and trait items to sell for research. I suspect I'm not the only one so there is a demand for those.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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✭✭✭Refining doesn't level your crafting, and there are other ways to get the extra stuff. Priced right, refined ingots are among the fastest sellers.
With guild traders now a thing, it's laziness more than ignorance for pricing things too high or selling junk in the stores. But if they can get someone to buy it...Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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✭✭✭✭✭3 stacks for A tempering alloy?
From 30 goes it's more like 10 alloys with the right craft buffs selected
nb, Oh also ALWAYS use an Imperial char for your crafter, big tip there
Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant buying 3 stacks of refined vs 1 stack of unrefined (for about the same amount of gold) if all I want to do at the time is make daggers I can send to someone to decon.
Sure, buying the unrefined gives you the chance at a gold refiner (and a few others too), but I will end up with 1/3 of the mats for what I need at that given moment.
I gather my own mats most of the time. It's just sometimes you don't have the right level stuff for what you need at the moment, and then being able to buy a stack is convenient.The Moot Councillor1 -
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✭✭Finding junk items in guild stores isn't new, it's just more visible now with the guild kiosk system. I figure it's stuff listed by new players who don't know what things are worth.
True, it probably is new players, since people who have been playing for a while would just sell to a vendor.Edited by AlexDougherty on September 24, 2014 8:32PMPeople believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Potenza✭✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »The only thing I make and sell now are all white items with traits for those who need them for research. I sell them at the recommended price which is a good buy and I sell a lot of them. I don't even bother with selling mats anymore because they hardly ever sold. Most people get the mats on their own I guess.
do you just put them up in guild stores or what?
Is that lucrative in and of itself?
Yes I sell all of it in 4 guild stores and they constantly sell.
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✭j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »The only thing I make and sell now are all white items with traits for those who need them for research. I sell them at the recommended price which is a good buy and I sell a lot of them. I don't even bother with selling mats anymore because they hardly ever sold. Most people get the mats on their own I guess.
do you just put them up in guild stores or what?
Is that lucrative in and of itself?
Yes I sell all of it in 4 guild stores and they constantly sell.
hmm I have a lot of stuff that just doesn't move that I could replace those with.
What traits and gear sells the most?Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0