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SLI question
komeleoneyes
Soul Shriven
Hey everyone,
Here's my delema,
running 2 evga 770 4 gig cards and running drivers 340.52. When I turn on SLI I get horrible performance 20-40fps. When I disable SLI I get somewhere between 40-60 depending where I'm at. What am I doing wrong? Or what am I missing. I really want to play both cards as we all do. Any advise or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Here's my delema,
running 2 evga 770 4 gig cards and running drivers 340.52. When I turn on SLI I get horrible performance 20-40fps. When I disable SLI I get somewhere between 40-60 depending where I'm at. What am I doing wrong? Or what am I missing. I really want to play both cards as we all do. Any advise or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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komeleoneyesSoul ShrivenAlso I keep reading they made a profile for eso but... I'm unsure where to find it or what that actually means. If its in Gforce Exp. the game is not showing up. I created a profile under my 3D manager profile settings but does nothing.
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You don't specify what resolution you're playing at, but if it's 1080p a 770 is fine.
If you're not playing on a 1440p monitor or higher, you don't need two 770's.
"as we all do" is people that actually use SLI for a reason. high res /multiple monitors.
If you're playing at 1440p, your complaint is valid, if not stop being silly.
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komeleoneyesSoul ShrivenNot complaining just uneducated obviously. Your telling me that if i'm playing 1080p which I am my 2nd card is useless? This is a serious question that I'll be taking back to micro center when they told me I would benefit from a second card on my led tv.
More free education would be greatly appreciated.0 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Many games just aren't optimised for SLI or xfire.
They are a con...and many cards now days are so powerful with such high framerates you only need the muscle for really high resolutions.Anything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭komeleoneyes wrote: »Not complaining just uneducated obviously. Your telling me that if i'm playing 1080p which I am my 2nd card is useless? This is a serious question that I'll be taking back to micro center when they told me I would benefit from a second card on my led tv.
More free education would be greatly appreciated.
No, the 2nd card is VERY useful still
. Elder Scrolls Online requires one of the newest NVidia drivers and will then automatically use the profile for SLI... you may need to manually force one of the AFR modes through the control panel (try both) if you're seeing a performance loss with the default (make sure you're on a new driver version such as 344.11 WHQL or similar, not the old 337.xx series or earlier). ESO is very demanding in parts of the game graphically even at "just" 1080p, though it does become CPU-constrained in some areas such as cities and 100+ person PVP battles. For the vast majority of it though the GPU/video card is the bottleneck and you will see huge gains there.
However, if you only just bought your cards and can return them, go get a new GTX 970 instead!...! Go read the reviews and you will find that a stock-OC model is almost the same speed as 770 SLI yet is a single card, runs at a low 148w TDP (~160w on stock OC models), runs extremely quietly, has a bunch of new features like DSR and MFAA, plus only has a $329-349 MSRP to boot depending on model. Like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_OC/
A gtx 970 such as that is neck and neck with a 780 Ti, and those cards are only a hair (10% or so) slower than a GTX 680/770 SLI setup. Example:
I don't know what you paid and when you got your GTX 770 cards, but if they're within the return period and it adds up to more than $330ish for both cards... make the switch!Edited by Attorneyatlawl on September 21, 2014 8:11PM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.0 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have you checked to make sure that your ESO game settings are set to Full-screen and not Full-screen-window-mode?0 -
Yes I'm sorry again, SLIing 770's or better, for 1080p is silly.
And the guy at Micro Center or what ever shouldn't be working there lol
To be clear yes I'm saying a 780ti for 1080p is silly too. It's a waste of hardware and a waste of money.
Go get multiple monitors or a nice 27" 1440p , then we're talking.
Unless you like cranking up the MSAA in games like Battflied 3/4, what you're doing is a waste of $$$
Edited by Thatusernameistaken on September 21, 2014 8:29PM0 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The resolution isn't the major factor. It's the number of polygons being rendered, lighting, shadows, bloom, particles, and other effects that will determine what card and or sli/crossfire support.0 -
Which resolution is a factor in.DenverRalphy wrote: »The resolution isn't the major factor. It's the number of polygons being rendered
And your point is common sense. A gtx770 can handle lightning, shadows etc at high or max, in any game.
The OP even pointed out he's at 60hz! IT'S OVER KILL.
An argument could be made if he was using 120/144 hz monitor. He's not.
That's 2 people that are gonna hold a straight fact and encourage complete and total over kill at 1080p? lol
Complete over kill. Silly. Very funny even. Most any PC enthusiast would get a chuckle out of this argument.
Every single game on the market will run marvelously on a single gtx770, at 1080p.
Unless you use more than 4x MSAA, it's a straight up fact. Total over kill.Edited by Thatusernameistaken on September 21, 2014 8:39PM0 -
Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Thatusernameistaken wrote: »
Which resolution is a factor in.DenverRalphy wrote: »The resolution isn't the major factor. It's the number of polygons being rendered
That's 2 people that are gonna hold a straight fact and encourage complete and total over kill at 1080p? lol
Complete over kill. Silly. Very funny even. Most any PC enthusiast would get a chuckle out of this argument.
Every single game on the market will run marvelously on a single gtx770, at 1080p.
Unless you use more than 4x MSAA, it's a straight up fact. Total over kill.
That's completely wrong, but that really doesn't change the issue at hand here... the OP should be swapping to a single 900-series card at a much lower price and getting almost the same performance as the 770 SLI would provide.
You can easily bog down 1080p performance if you want to with quite a number of games, and not everyone is satisfied with anything under 55-60fps at minimum with high options like you may be. He obviously was interested in having high performance or he wouldn't have looked into SLI originally.-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.0 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thatusernameistaken wrote: »
Which resolution is a factor in.DenverRalphy wrote: »The resolution isn't the major factor. It's the number of polygons being rendered
And your point is common sense. A gtx770 can handle lightning, shadows etc at high or max, in any game.
The OP even pointed out he's at 60hz! IT'S OVER KILL.
An argument could be made if he was using 120/144 hz monitor. He's not.
That's 2 people that are gonna hold a straight fact and encourage complete and total over kill at 1080p? lol
Complete over kill. Silly. Very funny even. Most any PC enthusiast would get a chuckle out of this argument.
Every single game on the market will run marvelously on a single gtx770, at 1080p.
Unless you use more than 4x MSAA, it's a straight up fact. Total over kill.
The only time resolution becomes a factor is when it is time to present the data to the monitor. That's the least effect on the card. It's the processing of polygons, particles, and anything else that has to calculate every item in a 3D environment. All that is processed before applying textures. The resolution of the display is negligible..
As well, a monitor with 60hz refresh should ideally have a card that can provide 60fps consistently before it becomes overkill. Since the OP mentioned that without SLI he was getting 40-60 FPS, that shows that 60FPS isn't consistent.0 -
You think resolution isn't relevant.. enough said. Try using a gtx770 at 1440p and say that. You are terribly misinformed.
But ya... you think 60fps MIN is a must, go ahead and use $500 for 1080p.
Again, just wow.0 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thatusernameistaken wrote: »You think resolution isn't relevant.. enough said. Try using a gtx770 at 1440p and say that. You are terribly misinformed.
But ya... you think 60fps MIN is a must, go ahead and use $500 for 1080p.
Again, just wow.
Kindly point out where I said 60fps is a must. I betcha can't (mainly because I didn't).
And no, resolution is not in any way a major effect on graphics card performance. I did not say zero effect, but it's negligible when rendering 3D graphics. Educate yourself before playing the "misinformed" card.0 -
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Who made you the arbiter of what other people should spend their money on?Thatusernameistaken wrote: »Yes I'm sorry again, SLIing 770's or better, for 1080p is silly.
And the guy at Micro Center or what ever shouldn't be working there lol
To be clear yes I'm saying a 780ti for 1080p is silly too. It's a waste of hardware and a waste of money.
Go get multiple monitors or a nice 27" 1440p , then we're talking.
Unless you like cranking up the MSAA in games like Battflied 3/4, what you're doing is a waste of $$$
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looooolDenverRalphy wrote: »
And no, resolution is not in any way a major effect on graphics card performance.
You're funny. So misinformed. Amusing though!
You think a single gtx770 for example is adequate for 1440p, or 3840x1080? It will play fine but you can forget AA.
You REALLY think gpu power has no baring on resolution?
lol??
And sorry I was crossing you with the other misinformed chap (Attorneyatlawl)
You two have no idea what hardware to use for your needs. You think gtx970's or sli gtx770's are appropriate for 1080p!!
Edited by Thatusernameistaken on September 21, 2014 10:24PM0 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thatusernameistaken wrote: »
looooolDenverRalphy wrote: »
And no, resolution is not in any way a major effect on graphics card performance.
You're funny. So misinformed. Amusing though!
You think a single gtx770 for example is adequate for 1440p, or 3840x1080? You REALLY think gpu power has no baring on resolution?
lol??
Actually... Yes. LOOOOL all you want. GPU has little if anything to do with resolution. The card memory does. Swing and a miss. Thanks for playing.0 -
You are so terribly misinformed. Please stop spreading bad info. SOme poor fool might believe it.0
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Resolution= more pixels, but remember gpu has nothing to do with pushing pixels!
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DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thatusernameistaken wrote: »Resolution= more pixels, but remember gpu has nothing to do with pushing pixels!
loool
Actually.... YES... GPU has nothing to do with pushing pixels. The GPU calculates what pixels need to be pushed. It's the calculations that determines performance, not the displaying them. Seriously... Give it up. You're clueless.
You obviously have very little experience in 3D rendering. The GPU has no effect on the resolution pushed to a peripheral device. The peripheral device merely echoes what the GPU has calculated. Try as you might to argue otherwise... You're just wrong.
As I've stated before... Resolution has a very minor effect. But with today's graphics cards, resolution should be the last thing you change for better performance, because it's the most negligible.
More effective tweaks in game are viewing distance (curs down on polygons to be processed), reduce particle effects (more polygons as well as lighting calculations), reduce shadows (again more lighting calculation), water reflection (more lighting and polygons), ambient motion for grass and foliage (yet even more polygon computations), and many other aspects.
But hey... If you don't get it by now, then you're just being willfully obstinate, and there's nothing else anybody could say to help you see the light.0 -
smtdbplus✭✭✭komeleoneyes wrote: »Hey everyone,
Here's my delema,
running 2 evga 770 4 gig cards and running drivers 340.52. When I turn on SLI I get horrible performance 20-40fps. When I disable SLI I get somewhere between 40-60 depending where I'm at. What am I doing wrong? Or what am I missing. I really want to play both cards as we all do. Any advise or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Hi Komele,
I am running iChill 780-3G x 2, 3840@50-80 fps, 1920@120+fps
For 770-4G x 2, 1920, I would expect at least 90+fps
It took me some time to get it working, the following are the steps you may want to check
1. Update the driver, seems outdated.
2. Enable SLI, auto phyX
3. Check the SLI performance with firefight benchmark, if < 10000pts, most likely there is an issue.
4. Check the cable between 2 cards, that is the most common issue with SLI
5. Check the OC time / voltage for those 2 cards. Try to set those back to reference and the same value
6. Check if enough power to the cards, the cards will slow down themselves if not enough power.
7. check your eso setting refering "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/77002/enable-sli-including-more-then-20fps-temp-fix"
Hope these help.
BTW, with your setup, should go for 4K. After that, you will know how much effort they put into the graphics texture in ESO.
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morashtakb16_ESO✭✭✭Another trick we tried a few weeks back was to set the custom program settings to Force Alternate Frame Rendering 2. Seemed to make SLI work back then.
Sadly one of my 560ti cards finally bit it so I can't check the newest build. Still runs "fine" on one 560ti.
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Devious✭Dont bother trying SLI with ESO, you get better fps with single card. I think its just to cpu bound and sli makes it worse with the extra driver overhead.
In fact even single card is hardly ever used 100% except on the character select screen. (check it out with gpu-z) They fixed it briefly in 1.2/1.3 then broke it again when they added the extra graphical effects.
Every other game/benchmark is fine.Edited by Devious on September 22, 2014 7:25PM0