stamina build weak class skill and ultimate vs full benefit of magicka build

charley222
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the answer is so easy , all class skill and ultimate are magicka base , any class who have stamina base point will have weak class skill and ultimate ,make impossible to have a pure stamina build , and benefit of strong ,class skill, ultimate , only weapon skill are strong on stamina build , but magicka build have strong ,class skill and ultimate and weapon skill because staff run on magicka base, now is over 6 month i`m playing the game and this issue is still not fix and look the werewolf anyone use it , i know last patch medium armor have a huge buff but that dont fix the stamina build(the stamina mechanics design is the probleme) mage will become more hybrid and will benefit a lot more the medium armor buff ( http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/09/15/battlemasters-corner--lightning-tornado ) compare the pure stamina user are already cap so easy and dont get the full benefit, the game have a huge core probleme for hardcore player and endgame, that why everyone are in light armor for endgame
i think is time for me to leave and comeback after 3 or 6 month , thank you
and good luck stamina user
(maybe the most easy option is to have the option to create magicka class or stamina class idk )
Edited by charley222 on September 20, 2014 7:38PM
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  • Soloeus
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    The best characters use the abilities they need to, and often have a 4/1 or 2/3 ratio.

    "Pure" stamina builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure magicka" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka? You limit yourself like that then complain you aren't as strong as a fully geared character that uses all their class abilities, guild, alliance war, etc.

    L2P.

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  • Circuitous
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    I'm entertained by the idea of a magicka user never blocking, sprinting, rolling, or breaking free.

    Burn some magicka, dude.
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  • charley222
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    Circuitous wrote: »
    I'm entertained by the idea of a magicka user never blocking, sprinting, rolling, or breaking free.

    Burn some magicka, dude.
    why running ? you got teleport lol
    why rolling you got teleport
    why blocking you got over 2k of buff stack on your character and after you teleport lolol

    good magicka user only need to use stamina rarely
    because why to run if you are able to teleport ?
    why rolling if you got teleport ?
    you dont need to block a lot because you got so much damage shield buff and are able to teleport

    the only stamina use for mage is to breaking free sometime and use a bit to block using Absorb Magic ,but most of the time attacker need to break 2k shield buff before to touch you , and most of the time the mage is gone already teleport :(
    Edited by charley222 on September 20, 2014 7:51PM
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  • ExiledKhallisi
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    What you just said makes no sense.

    Also my pure stamina melee sorc does more DPS using vr1 blue gear at vr8 than my full legendary. vr14 templar
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  • charley222
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    What you just said makes no sense.

    Also my pure stamina melee sorc does more DPS using vr1 blue gear at vr8 than my full legendary. vr14 templar

    all this make sense ,
    the game allow you to build pure magicka build yes or no thank you for your answer

    the game allow you to build pure stamina build yes or no thank you for your answer


    this game suppose to be about choice let see
    if i`m able to be pure stamina build still waiting your answer to my easy question

    now i see you make no sense / bow

    Edited by charley222 on September 20, 2014 7:18PM
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  • ExiledKhallisi
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    charley222 wrote: »
    What you just said makes no sense.

    Also my pure stamina melee sorc does more DPS using vr1 blue gear at vr8 than my full legendary. vr14 templar

    all make sense just your no answer will show that make sence thankyou /bow

    the game allow you to build pure magicka build yes or no thank you for your answer

    the game allow you to build pure stamina build yes or no thank you for your answer


    this game suppose to be about choice let see
    if i`m able to be pure stamina build still waiting your answer to my easy question

    now i see you make no sense / bow

    What you said still doesn't make sense.

    But I think you are asking if you can build either full stamina or magicka. The answer is yes to both. You just have to think outside the box of cookie cutter builds.
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  • charley222
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    charley222 wrote: »
    What you just said makes no sense.

    Also my pure stamina melee sorc does more DPS using vr1 blue gear at vr8 than my full legendary. vr14 templar

    all make sense just your no answer will show that make sence thankyou /bow

    the game allow you to build pure magicka build yes or no thank you for your answer

    the game allow you to build pure stamina build yes or no thank you for your answer


    this game suppose to be about choice let see
    if i`m able to be pure stamina build still waiting your answer to my easy question

    now i see you make no sense / bow

    What you said still doesn't make sense.

    But I think you are asking if you can build either full stamina or magicka. The answer is yes to both. You just have to think outside the box of cookie cutter builds.

    no sense and you are wrong because all class skill and ultimate are magicka base
    that make any sense to be pure stamina build and using magicka class skill and ultimate , pure magicka build have stronger class skill and ultimate and weapon skill because staff work on magicka ,

    all stamina build have weak class skill and weak ultimate because they are affect from magicka point and you are stamina :( so you dont benefit of everything you have weak class kill and ultimate

    but magicka build have strong class skill ultimate and weapon skill because staff are magicka ,= you got pure magcika build but the game dont offer pure stamina build because all you class skill and ultimate are affect from magcika point

    magicka point affect your class skill and ultimate but not stamina
    mean stamina build give anything to your class skill and ultimate
    Edited by charley222 on September 20, 2014 7:34PM
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  • Tamanous
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    Soloeus wrote: »

    "Pure" stamina builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure magicka" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka?

    L2P.

    The most powerful builds in game currently (and since beta) are pure magicka builds. It is entirely the point behind why stamina builds are less potent. The most powerful skills scale off of magicka and stamina is simply left for defensive abilities (and even those aren't often needed due to shielding and other magicka based defensive skills).
  • Rune_Relic
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    Tamanous wrote: »
    Soloeus wrote: »

    "Pure" stamina builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure magicka" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka?

    L2P.

    The most powerful builds in game currently (and since beta) are pure magicka builds. It is entirely the point behind why stamina builds are less potent. The most powerful skills scale off of magicka and stamina is simply left for defensive abilities (and even those aren't often needed due to shielding and other magicka based defensive skills).

    "Pure" Melee builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure mage" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka.

    Yes...understand perfectly when the right words are used. Elder sorcs online ;)

    What we are saying is pure melee/fighter/warrior (anti-magic) should be available and viable. Its not.
    Edited by Rune_Relic on September 20, 2014 7:42PM
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  • ExiledKhallisi
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    This will all change also When they change skill values to be derived from whichever is higher weapon or spell damage. Hybrid builds will be the most powerful.

    Also there are currently so.e stamina builds that work very sell and even outperform many magic a builds
    Edited by ExiledKhallisi on September 20, 2014 7:48PM
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  • charley222
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    What you just said makes no sense.

    Also my pure stamina melee sorc does more DPS using vr1 blue gear at vr8 than my full legendary. vr14 templar

    oh btw you just confirmed what i`m saying about mage , mage will become more hybrid and will benefit a lot more the medium armor buff big thank you to make sense of what i`m saying /bow
    Edited by charley222 on September 20, 2014 7:54PM
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  • charley222
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    This will all change solo. When they change skill values go be derived from whichever is higher weapon or spell damage. Hybrid builds will be the most powerful.

    Also there are currently so.e stamina builds that work very sell and even outperform many magic a builds

    again mage benefit the most to be Hybrid
    and the same core probleme is there and is not fix ,
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  • jelliedsoup
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    The best characters use the abilities they need to, and often have a 4/1 or 2/3 ratio.

    "Pure" stamina builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure magicka" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka? You limit yourself like that then complain you aren't as strong as a fully geared character that uses all their class abilities, guild, alliance war, etc.

    L2P.

    Having stanima/ weapons on a higher ratio to class/magicla still gimps you. But by all means keep knocking over the straw man of pure stam builds.

    As an NB I'd I want to win i just need to make a magicka build ambush and concealed weapon, but I don't want to as it would make the game very boring.

    Much like devouring swarm. Bolt escape, has. The lack of diversity of reasonable builds has made most characters the same.

    L2T. (Learn to think).
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  • jelliedsoup
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    The best characters use the abilities they need to, and often have a 4/1 or 2/3 ratio.

    "Pure" stamina builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure magicka" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka? You limit yourself like that then complain you aren't as strong as a fully geared character that uses all their class abilities, guild, alliance war, etc.

    L2P.

    Having stanima/ weapons on a higher ratio to class/magicla still gimps you. But by all means keep knocking over the straw man of pure stam builds.

    As an NB I'd I want to win i just need to make a magicka build ambush and concealed weapon, but I don't want to as it would make the game very boring.

    Much like devouring swarm. Bolt escape, has. The lack of diversity of reasonable builds has made most characters the same.

    L2T. (Learn to think).
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • charley222
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    The best characters use the abilities they need to, and often have a 4/1 or 2/3 ratio.

    "Pure" stamina builds should suck and they do. Just like "pure magicka" builds. I mean, not using class abilities and other things that cost magicka? You limit yourself like that then complain you aren't as strong as a fully geared character that uses all their class abilities, guild, alliance war, etc.

    L2P.
    this is my l2p lol i take alone mine lumber :)
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    i think is not so bad :) but thx for your offer yea i use the op vampire no other choice
    Edited by charley222 on September 20, 2014 9:00PM
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