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Horse respec - should it be possible?

baratron
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So, here's a question. Should it be possible to pay in-game money and go to a shrine to respec your horse's stats?

Here are a couple of reasons why I would like this:
1) For those times when you accidentally put points into the wrong stat. Bit tired when playing, forgot which horse you were feeding? I can't be the only person this has happened to.

2) When you forgot that the last feed adds +1 to all three stats. My characters now have inventories of 121 instead of a nice round 120. And this bothers me :).

I am aware that you can always just buy another horse, but getting a new horse to level 50 takes another 49 x 20 hours = a bit over 40 days real time.

What do you think?
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These characters are on both servers:
Alix de Feu - Breton Templar Healer level 50
Brings-His-Own-Forest - Argonian Warden Healer level 50
Hrodulf Bearpaw - Nord Warden Bear Friend & identical twin of Bjornolfr level 50
Jadisa al-Belkarth - Redguard Arcanist Damage Dealer level 50

NA-only characters:
Martin Draconis - Imperial Sorceror Healer (Aldmeri Dominion) level 50
Arzhela Petit - Breton Dragonknight Healer (Daggerfall Covenant) level 50
Bjornolfr Steel-Shaper - Nord Dragonknight Crafter (Ebonheart Pact) level 50 EAGERLY AWAITING HIS BEAR
Verandis Bloodraven - Altmer Nightblade Healer & clone of Count Verandis Ravenwatch (Aldmeri Dominion) level 50
Gethin Oakrun - Bosmer Nightblade Thief (Ebonheart Pact) level 50
  • dharbert
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    No. And you can go ahead and admit the real reason you want this. You want a quick, inexpensive way to go from speed horse to stamina horse to pack horse without having to buy another horse and spend the time and money feeding it.
  • Slurg
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    Nothing wrong with this idea assuming the cost for the respec would be sufficiently high enough to discourage daily changes.
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  • Xhap
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    The whole system needs a revamp into something less stressful, though a respec option would be easier to code in. A confirmation box is needed at the least and it's quite sad there isn't one right now. Feeding your Light horse oats can very well be the last nail in the coffin to some people.
  • GoatKnuckle
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    Yes, horse respecs should be available but optional. And when you respec, you should get no less than 8 confirmation dialogues giving respect to each of the Divines.
  • alive741
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    Respec on a horse should absolutely be allowed, it should be the cost of the horse AND have a 30 day timer on it.
  • AlexDougherty
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    baratron wrote: »
    2) When you forgot that the last feed adds +1 to all three stats. My characters now have inventories of 121 instead of a nice round 120. And this bothers me :).

    What????????????????? :astonished:

    Sorry but having an extra space bothers you?

    can understand why people want to change horse types, but it won't happen because horses are a gold sink. And buying a new horse and feeding it, plus the sub-time is too good a cash cow for the devs to mess about with.
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  • twev
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    baratron wrote: »
    2) When you forgot that the last feed adds +1 to all three stats. My characters now have inventories of 121 instead of a nice round 120. And this bothers me :).

    What????????????????? :astonished:

    Sorry but having an extra space bothers you?

    can understand why people want to change horse types, but it won't happen because horses are a gold sink. And buying a new horse and feeding it, plus the sub-time is too good a cash cow for the devs to mess about with.

    You clearly don't appreciate full-blown OCD quite enough :)
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  • AlexDougherty
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    twev wrote: »
    baratron wrote: »
    2) When you forgot that the last feed adds +1 to all three stats. My characters now have inventories of 121 instead of a nice round 120. And this bothers me :).

    What????????????????? :astonished:

    Sorry but having an extra space bothers you?

    can understand why people want to change horse types, but it won't happen because horses are a gold sink. And buying a new horse and feeding it, plus the sub-time is too good a cash cow for the devs to mess about with.

    You clearly don't appreciate full-blown OCD quite enough :)

    Touche.
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  • Shader_Shibes
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    Totally want this. My mules are too slow for pvp, so bought another Palomino to lvl up exclusively with apples, but we all know that takes a while.
  • Daenerys
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    I would like this option. Had to rename my steed, speedy, to 'speedy ate one oat' :)
    Edited by Daenerys on September 20, 2014 9:10PM
  • Kelsarath
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    I half agree with alive741, which is about twice as much as I agree with most people.
    I'd love to see horse respecs someday, although I think in order to make sure it's not being abused by a constant respec going from grinding to pvp (and back and forth) so you can load up or fly across Cyrodiil, respectively.
    I'm not really on the board with cost though. I don't think it should charge. For a couple of reasons.

    1. We *already* paid. After that we paid some more. We paid for the horse then we paid (many of us) once a day for weeks on end. Maybe a small fee but I definitely don't think it should be the cost of the horse (if you're going to charge the cost of the horse in the first place... just buy a new horse, IMO anyway).
    2. We pay for so much already on our own characters, let the horses be a hobby rather than a constant pain/upkeep. Have to pay for redistribution of attribute points (Fair, imo), pay for Skill redistribution (thank you, thank you thank you for putting in the option to just change morphs and both fair imo), pay for regular upkeep on a character (repairs, mats for gear, gear itself for some, fairly average and totally fair imo), pay for friendship (No? Just me then... okay, skip that).

    I think that a long cool down, maybe as long as two months or as short as two weeks would work pretty well. Perhaps something that would work just as well would be a single free respec at the point where you hit level cap on your horse. Then, if you wait till you're done with questing (mostly) and switching gears in play style you could also change your horse. Or, if you wanted to experiment with different things, you could do that as you level and then make a solid decision at the cap. Of course I realize that you can look up all of the information on what each attribute does and personally I did when building all four of my expensive horses, however I wanted to see what decor stam would give (couldn't find it at the beginning, I'm sure there's pictures out there somewhere now) and whether or not I could make it effective for some of the tasks I'd had in mind.
    Maybe one day they'll add in horse racing or some other feature and the outcry will become overwhelming. I know at this point I bought a black horse and went Stam at the start to see if it was worth it; I won't go into the painful saga of why I don't hate it and at the same time why I think it's useless at this point but I ended up buying another horse once I'd decided that I didn't see a need for Stam at this point in the game.

    If they do add horse racing... I'm really hoping to see a "slow track" with maybe something like a constant DoT where the goal is just to make it to the finish line. That would make me feel substantially better about Stam.

    Even more I'd love to see some different types of mounts... like giant guar or even better a wamasu... oh, that'd be so cool. Also totally different thread I suppose. Anyway, whatever your opinion, I hope to see you ride by in Tamriel! Have a good one!
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    I could see maybe letting you wipe what you've done training wise so you can start over. That way you don't have to buy another 40k horse after messing up feeding the first one.
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  • AreoHotah
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    Yes pls, only close minded would not want this
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  • KingRebz
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    It wont make the game any worse..in fact itll make it better for whoever wants to use it..
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  • Arsenic_Touch
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    If the current mount system is going to stay the way it is, they need to add a horse respec and they need to add more levels to the horse. When they transition to the champion system I really hope they had the foresight to apply it to horses as well, otherwise we'll be at the current predicament with a system that was only designed for 50 levels when they continue to add more levels.

    I'd really like to see them introduce a breeding system for mounts, then they can justify not having a respec. That way each generation of horse or whatever creature they're creating will have a higher cap on stats and certain breeds to be bred together to creature rare breeds with special abilities. The possibilities are boundless.
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    champion system for horses lol
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  • Mograineb16_ESO
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    Why is everyone giving ridicilous penalties to respec, just make it cost 100g per skillpoint invested in the horse. I couldnt care less if someone changed their horse build 10 times a day... seriously.
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    champion system for horses lol

    What's so funny about them extending the levels for horses that clearly weren't meant for veteran levels? do you think the current cap on stamina is going to be suitable with the growing power creep?
    Edited by Arsenic_Touch on September 20, 2014 10:33PM
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    champion system for horses lol

    What's so funny about them extending the levels for horses that clearly weren't meant for veteran levels? do you think the current cap on stamina is going to be suitable with the growing power creep?

    I think there's better things for them to do than code a complex leveling system for horses. There's not even enough features for that.

    I don't know what you mean the horses weren't meant for veteran levels. It's a mount, it's not your fighting buddy.

    Edit: people use stamina on their horses? And how would the level increase matter with regards to that. Like you need to push the sprint button more often? lol
    Edited by smeeprocketnub19_ESO on September 20, 2014 10:41PM
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  • Arsenic_Touch
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    champion system for horses lol

    What's so funny about them extending the levels for horses that clearly weren't meant for veteran levels? do you think the current cap on stamina is going to be suitable with the growing power creep?

    I think there's better things for them to do than code a complex leveling system for horses. There's not even enough features for that.

    I don't know what you mean the horses weren't meant for veteran levels. It's a mount, it's not your fighting buddy.

    Edit: people use stamina on their horses? And how would the level increase matter with regards to that. Like you need to push the sprint button more often? lol

    PVPers use stamina on their horses because the higher the stamina, the more hits you can take before being dismounted. Each hit reduces the total stamina pool until it hits zero and you're dismounted. Stamina reduction on a horse correlates to the amount of damage they are taking. Stamina is essentially a horses health bar in pvp.

    With the champion power creep, players are going to gain more and more damage, while horses will remain the same. It will become more apparent with horses getting one shotted even when fully invested in stamina. So again, tell me how the current system will be sustainable with the growing power creep?

    Also, there's nothing complex about extending the system that they currently have to encompass their new system. Nothing at all.

    So what I said is actually a reasonable request though I wouldn't expect certain short sighted folk to actually get it.
    Edited by Arsenic_Touch on September 23, 2014 9:56PM
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  • Emeliana
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    By all means should horse-respec be possible, since the stats/visuals don't place themselfs as they should.

    I'd like the first one for free since one of my horses suddenly got bags on it going from level 48 to 49, eventhough the 'carrying' ended on lvl 17 where no bags should be visible at all.
  • baratron
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    :p
    dharbert wrote: »
    No. And you can go ahead and admit the real reason you want this. You want a quick, inexpensive way to go from speed horse to stamina horse to pack horse without having to buy another horse and spend the time and money feeding it.
    Speak for yourself, mate :p . My characters have existed since pre-release and have a couple of horses apiece.

    If you read my original post again, note that I never said anything about inexpensive. I'd be happy to pay the full 250 gold per skill point again, just to make sure that my horse had the right appearance (in terms of armour and bags), and that I didn't have an annoying dangly number inventory (121! Seriously!).
    twev wrote: »
    baratron wrote: »
    2) When you forgot that the last feed adds +1 to all three stats. My characters now have inventories of 121 instead of a nice round 120. And this bothers me :).

    What????????????????? :astonished:

    Sorry but having an extra space bothers you?

    can understand why people want to change horse types, but it won't happen because horses are a gold sink. And buying a new horse and feeding it, plus the sub-time is too good a cash cow for the devs to mess about with.

    You clearly don't appreciate full-blown OCD quite enough :)
    I'm loathe to say "OCD", since that is a real mental illness which causes a lot of distress to people who suffer from it, but yes, I am at least somewhat obsessive about Getting My Characters Right. Nothing wrong with that. Entire video game series have been built on humans' obsessive urges (Pokemon?).
    Edited by baratron on September 23, 2014 6:33PM
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    These characters are on both servers:
    Alix de Feu - Breton Templar Healer level 50
    Brings-His-Own-Forest - Argonian Warden Healer level 50
    Hrodulf Bearpaw - Nord Warden Bear Friend & identical twin of Bjornolfr level 50
    Jadisa al-Belkarth - Redguard Arcanist Damage Dealer level 50

    NA-only characters:
    Martin Draconis - Imperial Sorceror Healer (Aldmeri Dominion) level 50
    Arzhela Petit - Breton Dragonknight Healer (Daggerfall Covenant) level 50
    Bjornolfr Steel-Shaper - Nord Dragonknight Crafter (Ebonheart Pact) level 50 EAGERLY AWAITING HIS BEAR
    Verandis Bloodraven - Altmer Nightblade Healer & clone of Count Verandis Ravenwatch (Aldmeri Dominion) level 50
    Gethin Oakrun - Bosmer Nightblade Thief (Ebonheart Pact) level 50
  • Nestor
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    All my horses are 20 Bag Space, the rest speed. I can't see me giving up the bag space, so not sure if I would respec or not if I could. Although I might do so to get rid of the extra 1 bag I got stuck with.

    Anyway, I see no reason as to why a horse could not be respecced. If people want friction, then make it so the horse has to be at L50, and make it cost half the price it took to level the horse (6250 Gold)
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  • jelliedsoup
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    Would be good, I wasted about 20 points into stamina.
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  • Potenza
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    Yea, why not. Wouldn't hurt. Just give it a reasonable cost so it isn't abused but not so much that I could just buy another horse.
  • LonePirate
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    I would settle for an increase in the level cap. My poor horse has not been fed in four months as it hit the level cap back in May.
  • Azzuria
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    Yes, because 1) we need more gold sinks and 2) I made a mistake on my Nord's horse and she doesn't have the speed straps I like so much.
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  • TRIP233
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    Yes, I want to respec my horse.
  • shiva7663
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    Early on, I spent a few points in speed which, in retrospect, I should have placed in carry capacity. Yes, I would like to respec my horse.
  • GoatKnuckle
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    champion system for horses lol

    This still makes me laugh.
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