PvP has become unplayable.

Sypher · September 2014

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

Mumyo · September 2014

never play on patchday(s)! Golden rule... i did some pvp and pve yesterday and it turned out pretty well but i also had a weapon swap delay... the rest went very good.

Vesir · September 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

been dealing with the same issues (aside from the crashes)

every 30 seconds or so i'll get a delay on whatever it is i'm doing and it's starting to really frustrating

Cody · September 2014

my group leader crashed so many times last night........

ZoM_Head · September 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

Sypher · September 2014

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

I feel you man. It's extremely frustrating. I feel so bad for anyone who plays this game with bad ping. I rely so much on timing my reflects, blocks, and knockdowns that just 1 second delay has cost me so much painful deaths.

And all I can do is just look at the screen with disgust.

dcincali · September 2014

I would highly recommend defraging your comp, one of my buds had 450+ fragged files of the 500 or so eso files. This may or may not help the lag issue, but stopped all crashes for a few of my guildies.

Domander · September 2014

did you all try a repair?

Ezareth · September 2014

Defragging could only help if the game were constantly loading files and your hard drive were ancient and slow.

Most of us are using SSDs and if you look at your hard drive activity after you load the zone it is very limited.

The new crashes are group related. There is still the age-old desktop crash that happens regardless every few hours or so. I've that had one since the game came out, but this new one is just constantly when grouped.

Lava_Croft · September 2014

Most of my deaths in PvP today were due to crashing. My mana is constantly wasted because I'm busy casting a spell from my first skillbar, after I already managed to switch to me second skill bar. It's just silly.

Dleatherus · September 2014

Cody wrote: »

my group leader crashed so many times last night........

that his insurance company cancelled his policy?

D.

Sypher · September 2014

It's happening constantly to me. Constant delay on my weapon swap and abilities. HORRIBLE delay.. Can't play with it.

I checked my internet speed Download 100mpbs upload 10mpbs.. It's still the same as before.

I wish there was a way for me to check my PING in game. I honestly feel like I'm on Aussie connection or something.

Why is this happening to me..?

Ezareth · September 2014

Same here man. I got killed by some random sergeant DK today because I couldn't swap weapons. Now trying to PVE but it's just as bad.

themizario · September 2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Most of my deaths in PvP today were due to crashing. My mana is constantly wasted because I'm busy casting a spell from my first skillbar, after I already managed to switch to me second skill bar. It's just silly.

Or if you use dark exchange with the lag...suicide by lag.

SeltzerDuke · September 2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

My mana is constantly wasted because I'm busy casting a spell from my first skillbar, after I already managed to switch to me second skill bar. It's just silly.

Wow, I thought I was hallucinating this effect. I had dark flare on the 1st slot of one bar, and honor the dead as the 1st of the other bar; I would rapidly switch to to the latter in order to fire off an urgent heal, and actually saw the bars flip over obediently, but then found myself instead doing the almost 2-second casting of the former, which was basically suicide. I ended up just slotting the heal in the same spot in both bars, which I almost never do except for difficult pve boss fights. I assumed it was personal client wonkiness or lag, but of course I should've used Ockham's Razor (has a patch recently gone out? if yes, then assume something new and exciting got broken before thinking it's isolated to your setup).

BlueSkiesDad · September 2014

Whatever is causing it came with the latest patch. As a group healer, soloing isn't in the cards. I accepted that fact when I started, but to not be able to group without crashing is pretty damned silly. Since the patch, at a minimum, it's a crash an hour. At it's worst, yesterday at Chalman, it was every 10 minutes, including a few which saw me log in and crash as soon as my character loaded, at least 4 times. What a bloody tease that was!

Tonight set a new low for me though. I finally had a point where I wasn't crashing to desktop. I'm with the group, a window of opportunity opens and we charge the flag. I was doing my job healing, dropped a nova on the flag/camp, put down an oil pot and then rubberbanded back about a minute to where the charge started. Oil pot was gone from my inventory, ultimate was back to 0% and I was 100m from the fight. That's a whole new level of special right there that I haven't had the pleasure of experiencing.

It's been ages (Dark Ages, you might say...) since I loved PvPing as much as I do in this game. It's just too bad that things like this frequently come along to trash an otherwise fun game.

I'm not going to hazard a guess as to what's causing it. It just needs to get fixed. I'm not interested in PvE in ESO, so please, fix this ASAP.

decado0024_ESO · September 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

I feel you man. It's extremely frustrating. I feel so bad for anyone who plays this game with bad ping. I rely so much on timing my reflects, blocks, and knockdowns that just 1 second delay has cost me so much painful deaths.

And all I can do is just look at the screen with disgust.

Are you sure that's what you rely on. I think you rely on your friends alt more than anything.

Monsoon · September 2014

8 crashes on the Mac client in 20 minutes.

Sypher · September 2014

decado0024_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

I feel you man. It's extremely frustrating. I feel so bad for anyone who plays this game with bad ping. I rely so much on timing my reflects, blocks, and knockdowns that just 1 second delay has cost me so much painful deaths.

And all I can do is just look at the screen with disgust.

Are you sure that's what you rely on. I think you rely on your friends alt more than anything.

Keep sounding more and more butt hurt by the day. You keep making up lies and rumors just to make yourself feel a little more comfortable about reality. Well here is the reality for you buddy, and I'm sorry to have to break it to you but at some point it has to be done.

I farmed you and whatever group you ran with. To me you are nothing more than AP fodder and Highlight reels that I can use in future videos. I know that sounds conceited, but it's not far from the truth.

You honestly think I made 400K AP by killing a friends Alt? Do you realize that I am 300K AP ahead of second place and in no way would killing a friends ALT make that number any more or less.

Honestly though, you're the guy who thinks Dueling = AP trading. So there's really no point in arguing with you.

This thread is regarding recent lag and input issues. Not about bad players who need to L2P.

decado0024_ESO · September 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

decado0024_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

I feel you man. It's extremely frustrating. I feel so bad for anyone who plays this game with bad ping. I rely so much on timing my reflects, blocks, and knockdowns that just 1 second delay has cost me so much painful deaths.

And all I can do is just look at the screen with disgust.

Are you sure that's what you rely on. I think you rely on your friends alt more than anything.

Keep sounding more and more butt hurt by the day. You keep making up lies and rumors just to make yourself feel a little more comfortable about reality. Well here is the reality for you buddy, and I'm sorry to have to break it to you but at some point it has to be done.

I farmed you and whatever group you ran with. To me you are nothing more than AP fodder and Highlight reels that I can use in future videos. I know that sounds conceited, but it's not far from the truth.

You honestly think I made 400K AP by killing a friends Alt? Do you realize that I am 300K AP ahead of second place and in no way would killing a friends ALT make that number any more or less.

Honestly though, you're the guy who thinks Dueling = AP trading. So there's really no point in arguing with you.

This thread is regarding recent lag and input issues. Not about bad players who need to L2P.

OK lets break this down let me refer to my screenshot that I sent in when I reported this event.....You were at 48734 the guy behind you was 22341 there was one keep left for emperorship. we are not talking about the ap you gains as emperor we are talking about how u got fed while EHJ was doing all the work on the campaign and then ..oh yea they stopped when that saw what you were doing .

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Sypher · September 2014

decado0024_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

decado0024_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

Ever since the hot fix that happened after the 1.4 Update.

-Delayed Weapon Swap
-Delayed Abilities
-Constant Crashes

You can test the delay simple by taping your block button. If you tap it enough times your player will be holding block for a few seconds after the fact that you already let go.

It feels like every command has a short 1 second cool down. If you try something too quickly you will most definitely mess up.

I feel like I'm being forced to play slowly or I will miss input and commands. This happens in PvE as well and even in non populated areas.

It's hard to look forward to updates knowing that crucial parts of the game get severely screwed.

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

I feel you man. It's extremely frustrating. I feel so bad for anyone who plays this game with bad ping. I rely so much on timing my reflects, blocks, and knockdowns that just 1 second delay has cost me so much painful deaths.

And all I can do is just look at the screen with disgust.

Are you sure that's what you rely on. I think you rely on your friends alt more than anything.

Keep sounding more and more butt hurt by the day. You keep making up lies and rumors just to make yourself feel a little more comfortable about reality. Well here is the reality for you buddy, and I'm sorry to have to break it to you but at some point it has to be done.

I farmed you and whatever group you ran with. To me you are nothing more than AP fodder and Highlight reels that I can use in future videos. I know that sounds conceited, but it's not far from the truth.

You honestly think I made 400K AP by killing a friends Alt? Do you realize that I am 300K AP ahead of second place and in no way would killing a friends ALT make that number any more or less.

Honestly though, you're the guy who thinks Dueling = AP trading. So there's really no point in arguing with you.

This thread is regarding recent lag and input issues. Not about bad players who need to L2P.

OK lets break this down let me refer to my screenshot that I sent in when I reported this event.....You were at 48734 the guy behind you was 22341 there was one keep left for emperorship. we are not talking about the ap you gains as emperor we are talking about how u got fed while EHJ was doing all the work on the campaign and then ..oh yea they stopped when that saw what you were doing .

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

So you assumed I AP traded because I was 2 times in the lead of 2nd place? Well here is some FACTS for you buddy. I'm currently ahead of second place by more than 300K AP more than 3 times their score. Did I just keep AP trading for kicks and giggles after I picked up such a big lead?

Here is another fact. I was the FIRST person on this campaign so it's not a big surprise that I was first place.

Also, EHJ was running around the map taking keeps and scrolls which don't give too much AP. I was running around solo killing small groups of AD and EP which gives a lot of AP.

Get a grip dude. I can give you some PvP lessons in the /whisper

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Ezareth · September 2014

Let's keep this on topic. No one reading this thread cares about how much or either of you got AP in any campaign period.

This latency has now rendered the game completely unplayable. I can only PVE by being carried by my teammates and I can't PVP worth a damn when I'm getting constant latency spikes.

If this garbage isn't fixed or at least acknowledged VERY soon, that's it for me. Even though the game is still free for the next two months it isn't even remotely fun playing in this condition.

Mojomonkeyman · September 2014

I agree to OP. Besides experiencing those issues myself (try to quickly recast volatile familiar now since patch and you`ll know what i mean), some of the very best pvpérs I know in this game are seriously considering to leave it because combat feels suddenly terrible after the last update.

The entire feel of combat changed since 1.4, commands get lost when activated to quickly (while still draining magicka...) and effects are a pita as soon as you fight multiple opponents.

Game gets worse with every patch.

Sypher · September 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Let's keep this on topic. No one reading this thread cares about how much or either of you got AP in any campaign period.

This latency has now rendered the game completely unplayable. I can only PVE by being carried by my teammates and I can't PVP worth a damn when I'm getting constant latency spikes.

If this garbage isn't fixed or at least acknowledged VERY soon, that's it for me. Even though the game is still free for the next two months it isn't even remotely fun playing in this condition.

I'm also at that point where this delay/lag has rendered me useless. I'm getting killed constantly because of this. Will have to stop pvping until it is fixed and it NEEDS to be fixed soon.

Arkath · September 2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Most of my deaths in PvP today were due to crashing. My mana is constantly wasted because I'm busy casting a spell from my first skillbar, after I already managed to switch to me second skill bar. It's just silly.

Exactly this.

Oh hey, I'm going to cast crushing shock on someone. -smashes key- Oh, hmm, nope. I'm out of magicka since I just cast crit surge 5 times because my weapons didn't swap.

Or, the best is when weapon swap never happens, and I've cast spell symmetry a few times. Not much hope left at that point.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · September 2014

Elmojito1000eb17_ESO wrote: »

^This is what i am experiencing. GTX 670 4GB and i7 980 and when more than 3 are on my screen, my character refuses to respond causing deaths and free xp and ap to the other side.

Nothing wrong with your system. Very bad performance and constant crashes with pretty much high end machine here
(i7 4820K @ 5ghz, 295X2 1130/1625, 16GB RAM).

Garion · September 2014

The crashing for me last night wasn't as bad, I only crashed twice in two hours of play. Hallelujah!

I have also experienced this strange weapon swap lag that seems to come particularly after respawning. I pop up at a Forward Camp, and for a few moments can't seem to do anything at all. There have always been subtle hints of lag on weapon swap etc in the most intense fights (I might pop one from my previous bar if I am very quick after the swap, for example) but now it's unbearable. Something very strange is going on at the moment.

Maulkin · September 2014

Hhhmmm... I used to crash a lot in the run up to 1.4 but it seems less atm.

In 4 hours of gaming yesterday in Thornblade (EU), I had one lag spike and one server crash but no client crash. I was however playing solo, so I can't tell you if grouping causes more crashes. Do you guys notice a difference in # of crashes as part of group vs solo?

On the issue of weapon swap and delayed abilities, I'd say I don't no exactly what's at fault, but I'm experiencing more unresponsive gameplay then I did. I think it's ability delay rather than swap, because I quite often swap weapon only for an ability from my previous bar to fire.

Garion · September 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Hhhmmm... I used to crash a lot in the run up to 1.4 but it seems less atm.

In 4 hours of gaming yesterday in Thornblade (EU), I had one lag spike and one server crash but no client crash. I was however playing solo, so I can't tell you if grouping causes more crashes. Do you guys notice a difference in # of crashes as part of group vs solo?

On the issue of weapon swap and delayed abilities, I'd say I don't no exactly what's at fault, but I'm experiencing more unresponsive gameplay then I did. I think it's ability delay rather than swap, because I quite often swap weapon only for an ability from my previous bar to fire.

Grouping definitely plays a part. Yesterday playing solo I crashed far less often. When I was in a group the other night, there were always 1 - 2 of the eight of us offline for the duration of our play time, because of crashes.

Dudis · September 2014

I only ever group with onle other person and I crashed to desktop (ESO.exe stopped working etc) once yesterday in an about 3 hour play session. This was at glademist with constant 3-way action and hundreds of people around.

So yeah, being in a raid (large) group might have something to do with it but why only in pvp then?

Weberda · September 2014

I was with a group on Haderus yesterday defending a keep. Around 6:00 p.m. CST 10 out 12 crashed simultaneously. And bad lag all day long.....