Options to Level from V12 to V14

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Hey all, asking if I'm missing something here.

Currently, I feel my options to level to V14 are:
Unfinished Old Craglorn Quests (I've done maybe 25% of them)
Unfinished New Crag stuff
Unfinished Veteran areas (VERY few left, I've done up to gold, all WBs and dungeons)
PvP

So, I'm doing PVP, getting some experience but it's insanely slow. Crag questing is hard to find a group...everyone is just grinding it seems.

Am I missing something? Is grinding in Crag the only real option?
Reften
Bosmer (Wood Elf)
Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

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Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

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  • Nukeyak
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    This deserves a bump imo! After getting to Caldwell's Gold, I leveled from v11-v12 via Craglorn grinding, but would MUCH prefer to do the new stuff to get there. Problem is nuisance of finding groups for Craglorn (lower or upper) questing, trials and arenas being time consuming and also need good groups. AvA too slow.

    Is there at least NEW grinding zones in Upper Craglorn?

    Thanks!
  • Akula
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    Daily pve quests in Cyrodill.
  • neolewis85
    I did v12 to v13 in just under an hour @hircine henge. Apparently it takes just over an hour from v13 to v14. Bearing in mind though they consisted of groups of players v12+ and well geared.
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  • ExiledKhallisi
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    They need to double or triple quest exp. Or I (And I assume many) will never lvl another alt again.
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  • Tavore1138
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    The new bosses in Upper Craglorn are giving good xp but it is very grindy.

    But if you want to level and have finished vr quests it is one of a very few methods, obviously if you don't worry about levels you won't be reading this :)
  • Prokonto
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    neolewis85 wrote: »
    I did v12 to v13 in just under an hour @hircine henge. Apparently it takes just over an hour from v13 to v14. Bearing in mind though they consisted of groups of players v12+ and well geared.

    this...
  • timidobserver
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    Sadly grinding is the only viable option. Fortunately, if you find a good grind spot and are capable of dpsing well enough to get credit if it is in a public area, it is pretty quick. It took me about 4-5 hours.
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  • bosmern_ESO
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    Most people that I see going from 12-14 are grinding.
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  • reften
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    Most people that I see going from 12-14 are grinding.

    This is insanely disappointing...I didn't mind grinding V11.5 to V12 earlier. No biggie...but to grind about 1.9 VR levels is brutal. Love ESO, but this reminds me of Trials of Atlantis for DAoC...
    Reften
    Bosmer (Wood Elf)
    Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

    VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.

    Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

    Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
  • spinedoc
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    So is it fair to say this game is NOT geared towards solo play? You can quest until VR10ish, which sucks itself if you are repeating content but at least it's something. But after that there is no solo path for PVE. Don't get me wrong I like grouping, but it doesn't seem there is much use to grinding dungeons and it's very difficult to find quality players who can finish a dungeon, if even to find ANY players queuing up.
  • Kego
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    I`m wondering what all of you are doing with champion Levels? Their will never be a maximum level. Will you all grind 24/7 the coming years an doing nothing else? ;)
  • MorHawk
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    Kego wrote: »
    I`m wondering what all of you are doing with champion Levels? Their will never be a maximum level. Will you all grind 24/7 the coming years an doing nothing else? ;)

    Think it's a safe bet that there will indeed be a max. Or at least, there will be if they have any sense.
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  • Xnemesis
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    Kego wrote: »
    I`m wondering what all of you are doing with champion Levels? Their will never be a maximum level. Will you all grind 24/7 the coming years an doing nothing else? ;)

    Their will be a max. The champion points earned will be spent on perks within different constellations. I would think that only so many points can be placed in each constellation. This will be very similar to alternate advancement or Rifts Planar Attunement system.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    spinedoc wrote: »
    So is it fair to say this game is NOT geared towards solo play? You can quest until VR10ish, which sucks itself if you are repeating content but at least it's something. But after that there is no solo path for PVE. Don't get me wrong I like grouping, but it doesn't seem there is much use to grinding dungeons and it's very difficult to find quality players who can finish a dungeon, if even to find ANY players queuing up.

    Mate , if there is one thing this game is not turned at , is to the solo players.

    If you want to do dungeons best advice is to join a guild and meet a few players that also want to do it.
    Edited by Nox_Aeterna on September 18, 2014 6:37PM
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  • Surfinginhawaii
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    neolewis85 wrote: »
    I did v12 to v13 in just under an hour @hircine henge. Apparently it takes just over an hour from v13 to v14. Bearing in mind though they consisted of groups of players v12+ and well geared.

    Took me 9 hours straight grinding Craglorn to get from V12 to V14, we obviously didn't do Hircine Henge and yes the 9 hours were brutal (my finger was cramping).
  • R1ckyDaMan
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    Xnemesis wrote: »
    Kego wrote: »
    I`m wondering what all of you are doing with champion Levels? Their will never be a maximum level. Will you all grind 24/7 the coming years an doing nothing else? ;)

    Their will be a max. The champion points earned will be spent on perks within different constellations. I would think that only so many points can be placed in each constellation. This will be very similar to alternate advancement or Rifts Planar Attunement system.

    Chances are though over time more tiers will be added so you can spend more champion points.
  • reften
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    neolewis85 wrote: »
    I did v12 to v13 in just under an hour @hircine henge. Apparently it takes just over an hour from v13 to v14. Bearing in mind though they consisted of groups of players v12+ and well geared.

    Took me 9 hours straight grinding Craglorn to get from V12 to V14, we obviously didn't do Hircine Henge and yes the 9 hours were brutal (my finger was cramping).

    i just threw up in my mouth a little
    Reften
    Bosmer (Wood Elf)
    Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

    VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.

    Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

    Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
  • Surfinginhawaii
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    oren74 wrote: »
    neolewis85 wrote: »
    I did v12 to v13 in just under an hour @hircine henge. Apparently it takes just over an hour from v13 to v14. Bearing in mind though they consisted of groups of players v12+ and well geared.

    Took me 9 hours straight grinding Craglorn to get from V12 to V14, we obviously didn't do Hircine Henge and yes the 9 hours were brutal (my finger was cramping).

    i just threw up in my mouth a little

    LOL
  • DenverRalphy
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    Xnemesis wrote: »
    Kego wrote: »
    I`m wondering what all of you are doing with champion Levels? Their will never be a maximum level. Will you all grind 24/7 the coming years an doing nothing else? ;)

    Their will be a max. The champion points earned will be spent on perks within different constellations. I would think that only so many points can be placed in each constellation. This will be very similar to alternate advancement or Rifts Planar Attunement system.

    Yes, there will be a max. But from what I've seen, it's basically a mechanism stolen directly from Skyrim. There will be a finite amount of points to spend... But there will be boatloads of options on which to spend them. There will be more options than available points, which leaves open the ability to expand points instead of levels.
  • lathbury
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    I just finished 12-14 no grinding. I did all the new quests. Then did dragon star arena. A couple of random bosses I stumbled across. Had a go at the new trial. Did the 2 mines I found. Then grabbed the view points. Then I repeated a quest with my mate it scales so it's duoable. Then again cause another guildy turned up. Each time it scaled with an extra boss and less npc helpers.
    While it may have taken a few hours longer. I got there and an only missing the new trial and hard mode dragon star achieves. So I have the level, plus loot, dyes and a title.
    Edited by lathbury on September 19, 2014 4:39AM
  • jelliedsoup
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    I have no idea what they're trying g to achieve with vr14? I can only think of pissing people off.
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  • Mondo
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    V12-14 Hircine Grind fast 3 Hours - Slow 4 hours

    everything other Days?
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  • Phinix1
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    My NB is v12 and has ALL the world PVE quests and content done (all white, every single map), as well as all of lower Craglorn (yes I did ALL those quests and delves as well.) I have also done all the delves in Cyrodiil.

    My options to go from v12 to v14 are basically: Grind in Gaglorn (TM).

    My question is this: With the stated purpose of raising vet levels pre-Champion system being "so all that XP you are getting isn't going to waste," what is the point if the only way to get said XP is to grind in content no one wants to do once they have spent their obligatory X hours with the rude and immature twitch-grind groups?

    Seems kinda pointless without more meaningful PVE content to gain XP by.

    EDIT: New get set options, regardless of veteran level, are always welcome.
    Edited by Phinix1 on September 19, 2014 7:24AM
  • Kcttocs
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    It's easy to find a group for questing now in craglorn. Just zone ask for group and name dungeon or quest and wham, group formed. Might not be that way for long once every one his vr14.
  • GamerzElite
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    I reach 50% of VR14 from Upper Carglorn quest and new Dungeon Run. Rest was from Hiricine Hunt.
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  • Qyrk
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    Unfortunately, if you do the upper crag quest as a v12, and completing it will only get you to v13 (or close to it). From there, you can either grind to v14 if you would like to go through a shortcut, or redo the upper craglorn quests (dailies) if you would like to take a bit longer.
  • Cathrin
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    Finding a group is indeed very hard and if you want to level fast, your best option sadly is to grind.

    The problem is imho the quest structure. Yesterday I found a group for Elemental Army in Craglorn, after that, I decided to help them with Warriors Call. Sadly I figured out, that I wasn't able to enter the door to the last boss, since I already did this quest. They failed with three players, time almost wasted for them and me :( .

    Those things need fixing, then it will be easier to find a group you can join for levelung up.
  • Kego
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    My question is this: With the stated purpose of raising vet levels pre-Champion system being "so all that XP you are getting isn't going to waste," what is the point if the only way to get said XP is to grind in content no one wants to do once they have spent their obligatory X hours with the rude and immature twitch-grind groups?

    You can beat DS Arena with VR12, you can beat the Trail with VR12, you can do the new Quests and you can go to Cyrodiil.

    And now, everything you do, will give you once again XP that will be brought over to the Champion System.

    Problem is, that to much people think, they have to get VR14 ASAP because they will only be viable again if they have the ~3-5% more power that with VR12...
  • TehMagnus
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    My NB is v12 and has ALL the world PVE quests and content done (all white, every single map), as well as all of lower Craglorn (yes I did ALL those quests and delves as well.) I have also done all the delves in Cyrodiil.

    My options to go from v12 to v14 are basically: Grind in Gaglorn (TM).

    My question is this: With the stated purpose of raising vet levels pre-Champion system being "so all that XP you are getting isn't going to waste," what is the point if the only way to get said XP is to grind in content no one wants to do once they have spent their obligatory X hours with the rude and immature twitch-grind groups?

    Seems kinda pointless without more meaningful PVE content to gain XP by.

    EDIT: New get set options, regardless of veteran level, are always welcome.

    Speak for yourself, grinding for 2h instead of wasting 20h doing repetitive useless quests is the best thing that ZOS could have done.
  • PBpsy
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    Just finished the new stuff. 10milions VP
    1.I had a some Dolmens left to do about 300K
    2.I run a trial DSA for ~10% of V12-13. We didn't even get to the 5th part.
    3.I run all Cyro quests twice ~3mill
    4.Did all the new Delves they give +200K first time and good exp after.
    5.Did some of the new quests good xp.
    6.Run Hircine's solo about 15 times.
    7. Run for a few hours with grind groups. The only thing I don't like about them is the occasional whiner that comes in the group just to *** and moan about grinding. This was a choice. I could have waited a cuople of more days but I did not want to.

    There is certainly enough content to do it without going for a grind group.
    My question is this: With the stated purpose of raising vet levels pre-Champion system being "so all that XP you are getting isn't going to waste," what is the point if the only way to get said XP is to grind in content no one wants to do once they have spent their obligatory X hours with the rude and immature twitch-grind groups?

    I don't know what grind groups are you talking about. What I encounter were just silent most of the time. The only people that wrote anything just joined to complain about them to grind.
    Edited by PBpsy on September 19, 2014 3:54PM
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