Fix Dragon Leap NOW!!

Siluen · September 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Siluen wrote: »

I would actually love everyone to be able to scale walls with ropes and grappling hooks like was displayed in the cinematic trailer. Keep defense feels a little too easy currently!

You're right! People should be able to scale both walls (outer and inner) and claim the flags and the keep without the keep ever showing as under attack. There's not enough ninja sieging going on at the moment, we need more.

It's unacceptable that people trying to claim Emp in the middle of the night with their 10-man team, currently have to spend around 60" to bring down each wall of an undefended keep. They should just be able to scale over and be done with it in under 10"

/sarcasm off

I envisioned climbing the walls when there's actually a big battle going on for the keep. It would have the defense on their toes a bit more, because at the moment defending a keep just seems a bit too laid-back. And they could make it take a while to climb a wall, so that those attempting it are at risk to get shot down.

As for your issue with nighttime cappers, not that this was what I was innitialy talking about and I think you could have deduced that beforehand... (But writing a sarcastic reply probably looks wittier) What are those alleged 50 seconds going to matter anyway?

Braidas · September 2014

Rylana wrote: »

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

I really hate to call people out on forums, but please spare yourself the embarrassment.

first of all, the skill is called "take flight" for a reason, its meant for people to fLY

second, if 20 AD cant kill 3 dragon knights that jumped over their keep walls and tanked you and the guards without support from their group at the bottom, you need to make a new char, new build, ask someone for help. do something.

you guys are sooooooooo bad its soooooooo sad.

ltp = learn to play

its not an exploit you dum dum, why do you think take flight have 50 million meter range? what to kill mobs in dungeons? sure not ...

I think you need to go send some more rage tells to my vice guildies after they/we kill you, tbh.

Just shut up. Its egospastics like you that bring out the worst in me, really. Youre not the best player in the game, you have no place to be telling people to learn to play, so just shut your trap, kthx.

I can name off the top of my head about six DC DKs that are better than you. Right, dks not even in my own faction.

who are these 6 better dks?

Nefrast · September 2014

kijima wrote: »

Not fussed, but I still think that either everyone, or no one should be allowed to scale/fly to the top of a keep wall. Having just one class be able to do it just stupid.

I think every class should be able to do things no other class is able to. Why have classes anyway otherwise?

Thechemicals · September 2014

this community is full of haters and ragers.

Yam_of_the_Center · September 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

this community is full of haters and ragers.

By that you mean Earth, right?

Dleatherus · September 2014

Nefrast wrote: »

kijima wrote: »

Not fussed, but I still think that either everyone, or no one should be allowed to scale/fly to the top of a keep wall. Having just one class be able to do it just stupid.

I think every class should be able to do things no other class is able to. Why have classes anyway otherwise?

i disagree with you a little there and here is my reasoning

fundamentally i agree that every class should be able to do things no other class is able to - yet in essence all of the classes in ESO can do pretty much everything another class do, just not as well

i also have no problem with one class being able to dragon leap and another be able to conjure an atronach - so far all is as it should be

however when you get to where you allow only ONE class the ability to circumvent one of THE KEY features of the game, keep walls, it causes a huge imbalance

there are three potential solutions i can think of - there are probably more

(1) have every class able to circumvent that same KEY feature, but perhaps in a different manner - ie just like it takes a DK ultimate to achieve this, a NB's ultimate would be to use grappling hooks and shimmy up the wall, a sorc could have a teleport ultimate that achieved it, and heck, a templar could get down on his knees and pray for his diety to lift him onto the walls
this 'solution' would now enable everybody who had an ultimate ready to get onto the walls, which kind of makes the whole point of the walls ridiculous - counters to this could include making it an outrageously expensive ultimate, or having a 24 or 48 hour cooldown on using it again etc so that it wouldn't be too OP/overused

(2) have every class able to enact it's own different KEY feature ie only DK can leap onto walls, only a templar can set a forward camp, only a NB can steal a scroll only a sorc can - hrmm - we'll have to figure out something to appease the wormy finger twiddlers, but i think you get the gist of where i am going with it

(3) since ZOS is currently incapable of fixing existing issues and neither of the two offered suggestions should even be looked at unless existing issues were fixed, the solution is to make sure DK's don't have this unfair KEY advantage, hence the lowering of the terrain around the keeps

D.

Kypho · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

I really hate to call people out on forums, but please spare yourself the embarrassment.

first of all, the skill is called "take flight" for a reason, its meant for people to fLY

second, if 20 AD cant kill 3 dragon knights that jumped over their keep walls and tanked you and the guards without support from their group at the bottom, you need to make a new char, new build, ask someone for help. do something.

you guys are sooooooooo bad its soooooooo sad.

ltp = learn to play

its not an exploit you dum dum, why do you think take flight have 50 million meter range? what to kill mobs in dungeons? sure not ...

I bet you are a silly DK class user. you should L2P with not a nobrain class. And thats not templar ofc....

Kypho · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I think you need to go send some more rage tells to my vice guildies after they/we kill you, tbh.

Just shut up. Its egospastics like you that bring out the worst in me, really. Youre not the best player in the game, you have no place to be telling people to learn to play, so just shut your trap, kthx.

I can name off the top of my head about six DC DKs that are better than you. Right, dks not even in my own faction.

you sound extremely mad.
you mad you bad?

also i dont recall ever sending ANY one in game a hate tell cause i died to them? let alone EP. EP are the easiest faction to stomp on. LOL

and no you cant name any DK dc or ad or ep that is better than me. as a matter of fact you cant name any player that is better than me.
read my signature again.

ps, i dont even know who the *** you are. and i dont recall seeing your name out there. maybe you die too quickly for me to notice you.

LoL best player

i hope you just trolling

Aoe_Barbecue · September 2014

I can confirm, Mrs Jones best player NA ... maybe even the world. His tutorial fee is very affordable this fact considered.

Kypho · September 2014

JLB wrote: »

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

if 20 AD cant kill 3 dragon knights that jumped over their keep walls

Hate to admit you have a point there.
6x3=18 players should be enough to kill them.

kijima wrote: »

no one should be allowed to scale/fly to the top of a keep wall. Having just one class be able to do it just stupid.

No gap closers are supposed to do that. Just plain bad design.

But ... but... they are.... loldknights... the most silly class in game

LoL

Kypho · September 2014

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Okay if DK's get to keep that skill then I want a rope and a grappling hook for every NightBlade.

Why should you have all the fun?

Ok you get in, what will you do then? you got so awesome defense, that guards will detect you and whip your ... in 2 sec. You have so good tanking ability and selfheals that you can tank and kill.... ahh you just cant....
So tell me, what will you do? At least DK can do tank and dmg like a halfgod.

Aoe_Barbecue · September 2014

It's like none of the whiners in this thread are aware that after using Take Flight, the DK is at zero ult. This means no banners, batswarms, nada. If players then go on to die to him and feed him ult, it's most certainly a L2P issue and not a "lolnerfDKplox" issue.

NB's might be shocked to find out what they also can do with Teleport Strike and a Propelling Shield

Kypho · September 2014

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

I can confirm, Mrs Jones best player NA ... maybe even the world. His tutorial fee is very affordable this fact considered.

Ye HE IS the Best player in the world, in any game, he is the strongest and the best looking in the world, and yea *ilicka$$*

(i think 90% DK players has ego problems ^^)

ryanmjmcevoy_ESO · September 2014

I kinda hope they don't patch this until I can see it happen or do it myself once. That sounds hilarious.

Ifthir_ESO · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

second, if 20 AD cant kill 3 dragon knights that jumped over their keep walls and tanked you and the guards without support from their group at the bottom, you need to make a new char, new build, ask someone for help. do something.

you guys are sooooooooo bad its soooooooo sad.

ltp = learn to play

its not an exploit you dum dum, why do you think take flight have 50 million meter range? what to kill mobs in dungeons? sure not ...

LOL the #1 dude I have "On farm", killed more than any other char, and is a DK...is you.

For you to say ltp is comical dude. Comical.

Also, if 20ad can't kill 3 dks, that means there wasn't a dk in the 20ad. Duh. DK = op for most players, just apparently not you.

Ifthir_ESO · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

also i dont recall ever sending ANY one in game a hate tell cause i died to them? let alone EP. EP are the easiest faction to stomp on. LOL

and no you cant name any DK dc or ad or ep that is better than me. as a matter of fact you cant name any player that is better than me.
read my signature again.

ps, i dont even know who the *** you are. and i dont recall seeing your name out there. maybe you die too quickly for me to notice you.

Rylana = AD. You = l2r = learn to read.

You really should just stop posting already, you sound like someone in the middle of an all night meth binge right now.

Ifthir_ESO · September 2014

krim wrote: »

THE SKY IS FALLING!

Krim took 2.3 damage from 239423854683 pieces of sky falling on his turtle build.

krim · September 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

krim wrote: »

THE SKY IS FALLING!

Krim took 2.3 damage from 239423854683 pieces of sky falling on his turtle build.

I been working on a new build and it's glorious.

serenenightmare · September 2014

kijima wrote: »

Chain pull got nerfed, and take flight will too.

Not fussed, but I still think that either everyone, or no one should be allowed to scale/fly to the top of a keep wall. Having just one class be able to do it just stupid.

Sadly, some don't understand the block mechanic.

krim wrote: »

THE SKY IS FALLING!

Rylana · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I think you need to go send some more rage tells to my vice guildies after they/we kill you, tbh.

Just shut up. Its egospastics like you that bring out the worst in me, really. Youre not the best player in the game, you have no place to be telling people to learn to play, so just shut your trap, kthx.

I can name off the top of my head about six DC DKs that are better than you. Right, dks not even in my own faction.

you sound extremely mad.
you mad you bad?

also i dont recall ever sending ANY one in game a hate tell cause i died to them? let alone EP. EP are the easiest faction to stomp on. LOL

and no you cant name any DK dc or ad or ep that is better than me. as a matter of fact you cant name any player that is better than me.
read my signature again.

ps, i dont even know who the *** you are. and i dont recall seeing your name out there. maybe you die too quickly for me to notice you.

Things wrong with your post.

1. Claiming I am mad, nope not mad.
2. Claiming I was killing you with my guildies in EP. AD dude, ALDMERI Vice.
3. Denying you know who me or my guildies are. You were pretty damn mad at Saphy that day because he is 10x the DK you are. You kept charging up the hill at Glade mine like you thought you could solo us and kept getting destroyed til you brought 12-14 to kill the three of us up there. Make sure to tell your FOTM nightblade funnel health spammer friend to keep healing Saphy, hes the best healer he has.
4. DKs better than you, a subjective opinion supported by the fact these people have actually been able to kill me solo before (or have killed me more than I have killed them, according to Codex, in group engagements). DC: Hov, Sypher, Naw Sunrest, Mimiron, AOE BBQ. EP: Tripe, Mighterknot, Agrippa (sorry EP DKs, you just dont seem to be able to catch me enough O_o). The point is, Jones, that I see those eight names and immediately consider them a serious threat. I see yours and youre just another blue, though I recognize you, I dont see you as something that cant be killed quite easily.

Face facts, youre a cheap FOTM griefer. Whatever is the broken or most OP mechanic of the time is the one youre using, and always on bads. The moment you face a strong opponent that understands your crap, you fall on your face and fail every time.

You claim you dont know me, thats alright, youre playing the "too cool for school card," but you better know me because in those engagements you die in, when I am present, I am most likely (or a member of my guild) to have broken through your garbage and knocked you on your ass. Unlike 90 percent of ESO I know how to purge, bash, hop, roll dodge, not stand in a bad spot, block, and use siege effectively. But by all means keep sitting in the cubby with oil so I can smoke you out with a fire ballista, keep dragon leaping onto walls so I can knock you down into the inner keep guards (that was hilarious), keep playing the LOS game with the stairs on the corner towers of keep walls so I can shut you down with blazing spear and the like. Your strats and tactics are old hat, ive seen it before.

Good day to you sir.

Lordballak69 · September 2014

Here is an easy fix.. Take Flight : Deals X Damage to enemies within 6.5 meter radius. All affected enemies are knocked back. Player is affected with weakness for 8 seconds (weakness = -1000 Resistances and armor. While player is under weakness status the player moves at 1/2 speed)

There.. you can jump over walls.. but when you do you put yourself at a large risk for a short amount of time.. figure something like this would still allow this to happen, but make it less of an OP move.

msawwan2ub17_ESO · September 2014

so you write an essay and you claim not to be mad?
I skimmed through it. my response is, i am better than all the DK's you listed.

let me relist them for your enjoyment,

I am Mrs Jones, I decalre that i am a better DK, no wait, i am a better player than:
Hova, Sypher, Naw Sunrest, Mimiron, AOE BBQ. EP: Tripe, Mighterknot, Agrippa.

question, who the *** is saphy??

I read your sig agian, only person i know from TKO worth mentioning is decado. good nb. rest of your guilds, i dont even know who are they, nor heard of them. but i am damn sure you and any of your friends heard of me.

as 50cent said, get better or die trying.

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

Um.

Tripe's a Templar.

(and a damn good one, but still, a Templar)

Braidas · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

so you write an essay and you claim not to be mad?
I skimmed through it. my response is, i am better than all the DK's you listed.

let me relist them for your enjoyment,

I am Mrs Jones, I decalre that i am a better DK, no wait, i am a better player than:
Hova, Sypher, Naw Sunrest, Mimiron, AOE BBQ. EP: Tripe, Mighterknot, Agrippa.

question, who the *** is saphy??

I read your sig agian, only person i know from TKO worth mentioning is decado. good nb. rest of your guilds, i dont even know who are they, nor heard of them. but i am damn sure you and any of your friends heard of me.

as 50cent said, get better or die trying.

BRAIDAS approves this post

Tintinabula · September 2014

Im not even that good and I have Mrs Jones on "FARM"

serenenightmare · September 2014

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

so you write an essay and you claim not to be mad?
I skimmed through it. my response is, i am better than all the DK's you listed.

let me relist them for your enjoyment,

I am Mrs Jones, I decalre that i am a better DK, no wait, i am a better player than:
Hova, Sypher, Naw Sunrest, Mimiron, AOE BBQ. EP: Tripe, Mighterknot, Agrippa.

question, who the *** is saphy??

I read your sig agian, only person i know from TKO worth mentioning is decado. good nb. rest of your guilds, i dont even know who are they, nor heard of them. but i am damn sure you and any of your friends heard of me.

as 50cent said, get better or die trying.

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

I think what we can all take home from this is --

There is only one AOE Barbecue, and we are not he.

serenenightmare · September 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

I think what we can all take home from this is --

There is only one AOE Barbecue, and we are not he.

I tell him daily he needs to make a guild called: We are AOE Barbecue

Agrippa_Invisus · September 2014

serenenightmare wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

I think what we can all take home from this is --

There is only one AOE Barbecue, and we are not he.

I tell him daily he needs to make a guild called: We are AOE Barbecue

It could only be rivaled by the mighty 'Mimiron was here' guild.

serenenightmare · September 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

I think what we can all take home from this is --

There is only one AOE Barbecue, and we are not he.

I tell him daily he needs to make a guild called: We are AOE Barbecue

It could only be rivaled by the mighty 'Mimiron was here' guild.

ALL HAIL MIMIRON, YOLO KING.