NB wishes, Nerf magelight.

aksyong · September 2014

Mograineb16_ESO wrote: »

aksyong wrote: »

1st reaction on reading OP post: LOL
2nd reaction on reading OP post: L2P

I have fought countless NB that stealth away leaving me frustrated and pissed with their cloak even though I run mages light. If you are good with deception and kiting, not even Mage light and caltrops will be able to stop your escape.

Me learn to play? ill smash your face into a swollen tomato, lets meet ingame, EU haderus or thornblade, I play AD. (Unless youre a shieldstacking templar/sorc/dk with thousand hour block and massive selfheals. Then ill pass.)

Magelight doesnt save you from being killed, its your friends magelight I have a problem with, when im trying to escape from your corpse.

Too bad I'm from NA server. And not even once have any NB smash my face into a swollen tomato, so I doubt you will ever do it even if you migrate to NA just to fight me.

L2P.

Mograineb16_ESO · September 2014

Columba wrote: »

Others also reporting much higher visibility while stealthed - stealth bonuses are broken. May be time to leave this game

Hopefully its not too bad, even if its bad, there is no where to go, eso is atm the best pvp game in my eyes.

aksyong wrote: »

Too bad I'm from NA server. And not even once have any NB smash my face into a swollen tomato, so I doubt you will ever do it even if you migrate to NA just to fight me.

L2P.

Ye, I cant claim that I will beat you, because I have no idea on your playstyle etc. But if you are on a horse, im pretty sure you will die!

Columba · September 2014

Mograineb16_ESO wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Others also reporting much higher visibility while stealthed - stealth bonuses are broken. May be time to leave this game

Hopefully its not too bad, even if its bad, there is no where to go, eso is atm the best pvp game in my eyes.

Well, I may just play things like CIV V until camelot unchained releases then. the thought of broken stealth on my NB when I specced for high stealth makes me jst want to stay away from this game now.

Poxheart · September 2014

Columba wrote: »

Well, I may just play things like CIV V until camelot unchained releases then. the thought of broken stealth on my NB when I specced for high stealth makes me jst want to stay away from this game now.

Just got done ganking for 2 hours and didn't notice any issues with stealth. Got away from enemies using magelight a few times, too.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · September 2014

Please campaign against bolt escape we need more good men since there is no counter to that escape currently. I would be in favor of a skill such that was mentioned above for stopping bolt escape if we want to continue to allow magelight to affect invisibility and not just sneak.[/quote]

you do realize they cant bolt escape if they are affected by hard cc right, so that means there are a TON of counters. try thinking.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · September 2014

people cloak on me all the time with magelight on. does that mean its potions? because there certainly is a mechanic where you can go invisible in front of magelight.

thomaswinkworthb16_ESO · September 2014

not everyone is running it, honestly NB never get away from me when i use it; on my sorc. when i use it on my templar good players always get away

Enesse · September 2014

Don't see why so many people are against the OP. Magelight is something that at least several players in an enemy group have on, so it's impossible to utilize stealth/shadow cloak in a crowded fight(aside from all the aoe spam breaking your stealth). On top of that, it also adds a pretty decent spell crit chance. And the magelight user isn't even revealed by their own light? It's just ridiculous. Invisibility is a nightblade's only trumpcard, it fails if they're hit by aoe, it doesn't even last 3 seconds, and it costs a buttload of magicka each casting. It should NOT be so easily countered by everyone in battle.

NakedSnake · September 2014

Yup. Magelight should reveal hidden within 12 meters instead of both.

Mendoze · September 2014

For a change I agree with nightblades. I too find it really weird that nightblades don't have any counter to magelight. As a sorcerer I would find it really unfair if everybody had a passive skill in their use that would prevent me from using bolt escape, and I'm sure DKs and Templars can relate too if that would be the case with Reflecting Scales or Blazing Shield.

BloodStorm · September 2014

Mendoze wrote: »

For a change I agree with nightblades. I too find it really weird that nightblades don't have any counter to magelight. As a sorcerer I would find it really unfair if everybody had a passive skill in their use that would prevent me from using bolt escape, and I'm sure DKs and Templars can relate too if that would be the case with Reflecting Scales or Blazing Shield.

Every class can sneak and people forget this often apparently. It is meant for all classes not just NB. Also melee is pointless now in this game. Vampires have mist form and templars have Blazing shield. No melee nightblade is going to beat a all light armor Altmer templar who can spam Blazing shield a million times. The real issue is melee is broken in this game. Resto staff is king as well. Ironic that a healing weapon is the most powerful weapon for damage. If you are not a ranged magicka build this game is not going to be fun. Maybe spellcrafting will balance things.

Mendoze · September 2014

DagothMacellarius wrote: »

Mendoze wrote: »

For a change I agree with nightblades. I too find it really weird that nightblades don't have any counter to magelight. As a sorcerer I would find it really unfair if everybody had a passive skill in their use that would prevent me from using bolt escape, and I'm sure DKs and Templars can relate too if that would be the case with Reflecting Scales or Blazing Shield.

Every class can sneak and people forget this often apparently. It is meant for all classes not just NB. Also melee is pointless now in this game. Vampires have mist form and templars have Blazing shield. No melee nightblade is going to beat a all light armor Altmer templar who can spam Blazing shield a million times. The real issue is melee is broken in this game. Resto staff is king as well. Ironic that a healing weapon is the most powerful weapon for damage. If you are not a ranged magicka build this game is not going to be fun. Maybe spellcrafting will balance things.

I think you missed what I tried to say. I think magelight should reveal everybody who use sneak ( including Nightblades ), but it should not reveal Nightblade using cloak, which is a class defining skill IMO, just like BE is for sorcerers. Also magelight has nothing to do with how good melee builds are, or how melee Nightblades do against Blazing Shield spamming Templars. I only used DKs and Templars because they have great defensive skills too, and if a common "passive" skill could render those skills useless, they would be really upset too.

Ezareth · September 2014

Mendoze wrote: »

For a change I agree with nightblades. I too find it really weird that nightblades don't have any counter to magelight. As a sorcerer I would find it really unfair if everybody had a passive skill in their use that would prevent me from using bolt escape, and I'm sure DKs and Templars can relate too if that would be the case with Reflecting Scales or Blazing Shield.

Everyone acts like Magelight instant reveals all night blades withing a 50 meter radius.

Good Nightblades consistently escape me with Bolt Escape and Mage light.

Bad Nightblades die every time.

If Nightblades had a fullproof escape then the game would be nothing but a bunch of nightblades camping everywhere sniping without repercussion. If you're consistently unable to get away, then maybe you should look somewhere other than ZoS to solve your problems.

Artemiisia · September 2014

its simple do as I have; I have stopped listing to noobs, that believes they should be immortal

Mograineb16_ESO · September 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Mendoze wrote: »

For a change I agree with nightblades. I too find it really weird that nightblades don't have any counter to magelight. As a sorcerer I would find it really unfair if everybody had a passive skill in their use that would prevent me from using bolt escape, and I'm sure DKs and Templars can relate too if that would be the case with Reflecting Scales or Blazing Shield.

Everyone acts like Magelight instant reveals all night blades withing a 50 meter radius.

Good Nightblades consistently escape me with Bolt Escape and Mage light.

Bad Nightblades die every time.

If Nightblades had a fullproof escape then the game would be nothing but a bunch of nightblades camping everywhere sniping without repercussion. If you're consistently unable to get away, then maybe you should look somewhere other than ZoS to solve your problems.

No, everyone acts like cloak is unusuable in the range of magelight.

If im reading what you are saying right.. you want to kill all noob nightblades because you use magelight and good nightblades will escape anyway. So people escaping with no repercussion is not a new thing for you and already exist, since not all people use magelight.

Still, im on your side that magelight should counter it, because atleast you can choose to try break cloak instead of standing there with your hands in your pocket whistling everytime you meet an nb

NakedSnake · September 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Mendoze wrote: »

For a change I agree with nightblades. I too find it really weird that nightblades don't have any counter to magelight. As a sorcerer I would find it really unfair if everybody had a passive skill in their use that would prevent me from using bolt escape, and I'm sure DKs and Templars can relate too if that would be the case with Reflecting Scales or Blazing Shield.

Everyone acts like Magelight instant reveals all night blades withing a 50 meter radius.

Good Nightblades consistently escape me with Bolt Escape and Mage light.

Bad Nightblades die every time.

If Nightblades had a fullproof escape then the game would be nothing but a bunch of nightblades camping everywhere sniping without repercussion. If you're consistently unable to get away, then maybe you should look somewhere other than ZoS to solve your problems.

This is such a telling statement since it is exactly what we have now but I guess it is ok for other classes.