Update 4 Issues

ThePonzzz · September 2014

Few things I noticed after logging in that seem off.

The guild stores now display traits in alphanumeric order instead of the order they appear when researching. Any chance this can get changed back? Also, why am I seeing [eng] before everything in the guild store?

Running in 1st person mode seems to sway and bounce now. This is a bit too much realism for my liking. Playing for 15 minutes, I was getting motion sick running around Wayrest.

All of Wayrest bank's containers turned to empty as I tried to search them. Every single one.

ZOS_GinaBruno · September 2014

Thanks @ThePonzzz‌, we're looking into these now.

MikeBob · September 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

(...) containers turned to empty as I tried to search them. Every single one.

I call this 'gump' empty, as all empty containers should be visibly empty.

One shouldn't have to waste the time it takes to search a container that contains nothing at all.

(bad edit edit)

bellanca6561n · September 2014

My only issue thus far is getting a warning GUMP every time I deleted an in-game mail that I was about to delete it and it would be gone forever, or words to that effect.

I chose to turn off tutorials and I'd still get it. I saw things I liked - armor traits and set bonus changes - but I interpreted "issues" in this case as problems

dennissomb16_ESO · September 2014

new group bug. Logged in grouped with my buddy played a little, had to leave. Quit my group and logged out. Now back in game, shows me grouped with my buddy even though I am not. He does not show me in his group, I can not quit group, disband group (I am leader) nor join any new group

indigoblades · September 2014

i lost all my ingame settings again. If my addon settings are messed again i my quit. Every update except 1.3 has added things i dont want... messed up my settings and has bugs that take a couple of weeks to fix. This release nerfed my sneak after investing in gold weapons and armer. It added yet more group content i not the least interested in. The only new solo content to date is dyes.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · September 2014

I sometimes feel like ZOS hates the majority of their playerbase, and 90% of the big patches are just to flip us the bird.

Divayth_Fyr · September 2014

Hello, did the Devs change the sensitivity with running/walking in this patch? It seems they have. I use Xpadder since I cannot use a mouse & keyboard effectively. I refuse to play on Xbox Live or Ps4 since I will not pay an extra subscription, whilst saying that both those platforms obviously are able to use controllers.

We on the PC version need controller support so we can optimally adjust layouts or use the default layout/s that both Xbox & Ps4 use. Those of us playing on the PC cannot easily do this using Xpadder, also as far as I am aware the sensitivity cannot be adjusted in Xpadder. I find it rather silly why us PC players have not been given controller support since controller commands exists on both Xbox & Ps4

I am having difficulty playing as it is, as are others, let alone now with sensitivity issues! What can be done about this, meaning when if the Devs will release "official" controller support.

Also Xpadder is not an ideal solution since everyone who uses it had to download it for an additional cost to a developer outside of ESO. One would think the ESO Devs would have controller support so their players didn't need to resort to 1 using a 3rd part product that isn't optimal & have to pay for it.

Seems like they don't care enough when they say to players if they want to use a controller on the PC version to get an add-on!

I may have to quit simply on the basis I cannot play properly due to the Devs not providing assistance to those who need to use a controller for various reasons.

gclifton58ub17_ESO · September 2014

Crafting tables are not working correctly. When creating an item, you have to scroll through items in order to makes changes show up such as adding a trait or changing materials. This does not work on shields of course. On shields you have to toggle "Have Knowledge" or "Have Materials" to make the changes show in the item description box. I would have made an ingame ticket but have chores to do.

LonePirate · September 2014

gclifton58ub17_ESO wrote: »

Crafting tables are not working correctly. When creating an item, you have to scroll through items in order to makes changes show up such as adding a trait or changing materials. This does not work on shields of course. On shields you have to toggle "Have Knowledge" or "Have Materials" to make the changes show in the item description box. I would have made an ingame ticket but have chores to do.

If this is the bug I think it is, then I logged a bug on this back on August 22 while testing the PTS. I added the bug to the list of 1.4 PTS Issues thread which supposedly were passed on to the devs.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/127831/pts-patch-1-4-bug-compilation/p1

@ZOS_GinaBruno Why did you guys ask us to test the update on the PTS if you're going to ignore the bugs and regressions we report? Why should we test future updates on the PTS if our reported issues are going to be ignored?

lancepro · September 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Running in 1st person mode seems to sway and bounce now. This is a bit too much realism for my liking. Playing for 15 minutes, I was getting motion sick running around Wayrest.

I don't have this issue. 1st person movement is still like moving on air. Though there is a small improvement it is barely noticeable.

indigoblades · September 2014

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

jaebdub · September 2014

indigoblades wrote: »

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

These no longer stack. Read the patch notes.

Phinix1 · September 2014

Animation for resto staff appears to have been swapped with 1H/Shield. You now hold the staff quite stiff in your sword position and hold your left hand up like you are blocking.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · September 2014

indigoblades wrote: »

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

GunemCleric · September 2014

(1) I cannot set myself online from offline mode. No addons

(2) No v12 gear on elite vendor (south highrock)

(3) elite vendor has an item that not only does not render (question mark) but also has not text.

(4) Game settings and customizations have been wiped, very nice way to make a lot of people angry. All my little color tweeks to chat, my tabs,..., which i had perfect and had been working on since early access are gone. I am sure you do not care, but i liked it the way it was and did not think i had to somehow make backups.

I dir "/bug" on 1,2, and 3. #4 seems pointless as i do not normally get a response anyway, i cannot imagine getting help on 4.

Also, since I have finished nearly all quests and story line, i have to go to craglorn (like everyone else who still plays ESO). I thought there was supposed to be a boost to VP in upper zones. I just checked and we would have to kill about 10,000 mobs still to get v13, which means it is about to get very nasty in craglorn, sounds like a brilliant way to lose yet more subs

GunemCleric · September 2014

cannot use the "E' to click through dialog.

6 bugs and have not even tried to find anything so far. i cannot wait to play in cyrodiil

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · September 2014

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

indigoblades wrote: »

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

no, we weren't actually. But for the sacrifice you make for it, it's not excessive. They changed it because people whined on the forums.

The logical solution to make everyone happy would have been a cap on sneak speed at a reasonable level, but that probably involved more complex coding, and ZOS devs prefer to make things as easy as possible. No point in doing things right if it is going to take work.

dharbert · September 2014

I knew the river of tears from the nights silence change was coming

Out of everyone who plays ESO, maybe .0001 % read the forums on a daily basis. Zenimax made the change because it needed it, not because of 30 or so people on the forum.

It's done. You can no longer crawl at 30 miles per hour. Get over it.

jaebdub · September 2014

It's ridiculous to think it makes sense to sneak faster than most of us can sprint.

LonePirate · September 2014

GunemCleric wrote: »

cannot use the "E' to click through dialog.

6 bugs and have not even tried to find anything so far. i cannot wait to play in cyrodiil

This is another bug I reported on the PTS and I raised a stink about this one, too, because it is very annoying. Again, ZOS has completely ignored the bugs we reported on the PTS.

If ZOS won't fix the bugs we report on the PTS, then players should ignore all future requests from ZOS to test the content there.

I've been playing the update for 5 minutes and I have already found 3 bugs reported over three weeks ago on the PTS that are still present today. ZOS should be ashamed of themselves as they owe players an apology for this trainwreck.

Comaetilico · September 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

indigoblades wrote: »

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

no, we weren't actually. But for the sacrifice you make for it, it's not excessive. They changed it because people whined on the forums.

The logical solution to make everyone happy would have been a cap on sneak speed at a reasonable level, but that probably involved more complex coding, and ZOS devs prefer to make things as easy as possible. No point in doing things right if it is going to take work.

movement speed is somethign that has been twiked since beta...

first they reduced the stackability of speed buff (it was much higher in beta...) and increased the speed of mounts...

than they put in the restection on multi teleport for sorc

now they touched the the sneak speed (and actualy you were able to run faster than a non sprinting mount while in sneak with stacking bonuses... so i can't really say that it was just a bit of speed boost...)...

all those point should give you a hint on what their policy on movement speed is...

if anything let you run faster than a mount... than you know that it will be nerfed sooner or later since it is not intended ^^

Jaggannath · September 2014

Edited - bug corrected itself (I must have some user error issues

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Rylana · September 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

indigoblades wrote: »

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

no, we weren't actually.

Yeah, you were. With a speed potion and steed mundus you were faster than even a galloping light horse @ 75% speed.

LonePirate · September 2014

1. The vendors in Cyrodiil do not sell any VR13 or VR14 blue mystery gear boxes.

2. The list of Alliance War campaigns is in the incorrect order on the Alliance War (L) page. The 30 day campaigns should be listed before the 14 day campaign.

These issues, just like the others I have commented on above, were reported on the PTS and evidently were ignored.

Did ZOS actually fix any bugs reported on the PTS?

ThePonzzz · September 2014

lancepro wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Running in 1st person mode seems to sway and bounce now. This is a bit too much realism for my liking. Playing for 15 minutes, I was getting motion sick running around Wayrest.

I don't have this issue. 1st person movement is still like moving on air. Though there is a small improvement it is barely noticeable.

I wish that were the case for me. Mine sways gently back and forth and up and down as if I were actually running around. While the realism is neat, I'm getting motion sick.

indigoblades · September 2014

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

Your FALSE and MISLEADING statement is what got us this nerf,since most will believe it. ....Any toon can sprint faster than a slow unupgraded galloping horse. Upgrading horses are different story as lots have tested and posted the speeds of both which ZOS choose to ignore..... .... i have timed my 45% Speed horse it can run a preset distance 31 secs .... my vamp toon with night silence sneaks in 36 secs. My Horse is very slow and can never keep up with the pact in PVP.... i have 43% in speed and 22 upgrades in pack size ... most have expensive horses which max speed at 75%.

sean.plackerb14_ESO · September 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

lancepro wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Running in 1st person mode seems to sway and bounce now. This is a bit too much realism for my liking. Playing for 15 minutes, I was getting motion sick running around Wayrest.

I don't have this issue. 1st person movement is still like moving on air. Though there is a small improvement it is barely noticeable.

I wish that were the case for me. Mine sways gently back and forth and up and down as if I were actually running around. While the realism is neat, I'm getting motion sick.

I get the swaying in 1st person, but only while sprinting. I know it's a personal preference, but I kinda like it my self. But I also don't use 1st person very often.

Also here is a screenshot of the crafting bug. Thankfully it is UI only. No matter what the preview says you will get the correct item based on matts used.
i.imgur.com/KFcwZsY.jpg

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · September 2014

Comaetilico wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

indigoblades wrote: »

My out of combat sneak speed as vamp with night silence armor is too low. It was working as intended before this patch. I also lost all my in game settings and since most in game settings are not global i will need to reset it for my main and 7 alts.

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

no, we weren't actually. But for the sacrifice you make for it, it's not excessive. They changed it because people whined on the forums.

The logical solution to make everyone happy would have been a cap on sneak speed at a reasonable level, but that probably involved more complex coding, and ZOS devs prefer to make things as easy as possible. No point in doing things right if it is going to take work.

movement speed is somethign that has been twiked since beta...

first they reduced the stackability of speed buff (it was much higher in beta...) and increased the speed of mounts...

than they put in the restection on multi teleport for sorc

now they touched the the sneak speed (and actualy you were able to run faster than a non sprinting mount while in sneak with stacking bonuses... so i can't really say that it was just a bit of speed boost...)...

all those point should give you a hint on what their policy on movement speed is...

if anything let you run faster than a mount... than you know that it will be nerfed sooner or later since it is not intended ^^

except, they were repeatedly told about the issue and repeatedly they stated it was working as intended. SO that sort of counters their stance on that, and if that were actually the problem, why not cap sneak speed at just below the speed of a fast horse?

Instead they gutted the entire value of the set, and offered no refunds for the armor we crafted of a set they stated time and again was working correctly.

So no doubt, you can see why some people might be irate. Especially since they flat out lie in the patch notes and call it an "issue" as if it was an unforeseen problem.

apostate9 · September 2014

indigoblades wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

Your FALSE and MISLEADING statement is what got us this nerf,since most will believe it. ....Any toon can sprint faster than a slow unupgraded galloping horse. Upgrading horses are different story as lots have tested and posted the speeds of both which ZOS choose to ignore..... .... i have timed my 45% Speed horse it can run a preset distance 31 secs .... my vamp toon with night silence sneaks in 36 secs. My Horse is very slow and can never keep up with the pact in PVP.... i have 43% in speed and 22 upgrades in pack size ... most have expensive horses which max speed at 75%.

Dude, dry your tears. I have 2 guildies with that setup, and they could crawl faster than my galloping horse with speed straps. Your the one being misleading, everyone knows how the stacking speed buffs actually worked.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · September 2014

apostate9 wrote: »

indigoblades wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

LOL, they changed this just because vamps with night silence armor were able to sneak at the speed of a galloping horse. Now only one sneak speed buff applies and you can't stack armour speed buff with vamp speed buff.

Your FALSE and MISLEADING statement is what got us this nerf,since most will believe it. ....Any toon can sprint faster than a slow unupgraded galloping horse. Upgrading horses are different story as lots have tested and posted the speeds of both which ZOS choose to ignore..... .... i have timed my 45% Speed horse it can run a preset distance 31 secs .... my vamp toon with night silence sneaks in 36 secs. My Horse is very slow and can never keep up with the pact in PVP.... i have 43% in speed and 22 upgrades in pack size ... most have expensive horses which max speed at 75%.

Dude, dry your tears. I have 2 guildies with that setup, and they could crawl faster than my galloping horse with speed straps. Your the one being misleading, everyone knows how the stacking speed buffs actually worked.

is your galloping horse maxed out in speed, because if it is, then no they can't. Unless they pop rapid (huge drain on stamina) and/or use a speed pot. But at that point, you deserve the speed bonus, because you've sunk everything into what? 10 seconds worth of sneaking only to be unable to sneak afterwards for a good amount of time.