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Just want to quest, how to let hyperactive PVPers know that and leave me alone?
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Zubba✭✭✭Risk versus Reward. What youkillerintheline9 wrote: »He seriously writes forum post because he died on war zone? Yes i will kill you if i see you on Cyrodiil. What makes you think, that you are less than enemy than others?
Read again mista. I'm not asking for advice on 1v1 battle or something. And I don't think I'm less an enemy. I just want to know if there's some communication between alliances or anything like that to let the other guys know that I'm not interested in fighting you.
If someone is willing to let you pass on questing in piece, fine with me. However you are there in a war, risk vs reward, and killing you also gives XP/VP/AP.Add PvP loot drops for some risk/reward in this game.
Captain Morgan Society
Zub
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Srugzal✭✭✭✭✭Even more than that, I've come to understand and appreciate that ganking from stealth while lurking about near NPC quest givers is a legitimate war strategy, whatever else one might want.
You are wrong on so many points. Read the first post, read exactly what I asked:I simply want to know if there's some unwritten rule or some form of etiquette that I should follow to let people from other factions know that "Hi! I'm questing here and I will not fight you. Will you please let me mind my own business?"None of what you said is relevant here because you did not answer or provide any helpful information to try to answer that. Others did and I thank them for that.
The point of my post was that your question doesn't even make sense, as others have said. There is no such etiquette, and even raising the question of such an etiquette shows a lack of insight. Actually, I know what part of my post you took personally. Thanks for proving my point, though what I said wasn't about you specifically. You've gone out of your way to apprise me of your disapproval, and to thank others who have said exactly the same things. Awesome!
Protip: not everything in a thread is directed at the OP. Thanks for sharing.Edited by Srugzal on September 11, 2014 1:38PM5 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The fact that you cannot talk/yell to opposing factions without specifically whispering a player makes it difficult to communicate your intentions.
There are no unwritten rules because there are so many different opinions as to what is proper in this situation. I am personally content to leave low pvp ranked players alone, but I have been attacked (as in they struck first blow) by low ranked players.
Advice from someone who has completed most Cyrodiil quest content. Patience. There will be a point when your faction dominates a server. Right now, DC controls Chillrend and AD Hadreas. About a month ago EP controlled BOw of shadows. Next month, someone will control something. Then you dont have to worry about enemy players being nice.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.4 -
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✭✭✭✭Go to one of the empty campaigns and stealth a lot. You will still get ganked, but most people that camp pve areas on empty campaigns are really bad so you may have a fighting chance. Just make sure you are blocking when you are not stealthed to negate lethal arrow.
Just about every class has some mechanic that can make solo killing them annoying and frustrating when used properly. Learn to mist form, reflective scale, bat swarm , blazing shield , bolt escape, or whatever depending on your class. It wont take a lot of skill and it will make any bad player, reduced to ganking pvers, move on to easier prey.
Edited by timidobserver on September 11, 2014 2:45PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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Harnesh✭✭✭Here is your simple answer: No,there is no secret wave or handshake. You swim at your own risk.3
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I would also recommend the the Non-vet if your character is still under 50. No side is ever beaten back too far, so you'll always have transit shrine links to work with. The pop is low, and if you should come across anyone, they won't be too strong. The only other option is to quest in a group.A for effort for trying to avoid pvp in cyrodiil, what faction are ya? There's some servers which are safer for some factions than others (ie Aldmeri can probably quest on Haderus w/out worrying about other factions being out there)
Other than that, quest in a group, most gankers won't mess with a large enough group, and if you see a ganker try something, use your numbers to quickly dispatch them, most gankers are built for 1v1, so a group with some form of heals can usually out last the ganker
Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Mud_Puppy✭✭✭The only way to get better at anything is to be beat into the ground.
With that said, I did all my Cyro questing way back on Wabbajack at full pop. I must say it was some of the most fun I've ever had questing./kill3 -
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Personally? Nah, to me you're just the usual statistical PVPer - Joe, *** and Harry, level 38 Nightblade or Veteran 12 Templar, it doesn't matter really.The point of my post was that your question doesn't even make sense, as others have said. There is no such etiquette, and even raising the question of such an etiquette shows a lack of insight. Actually, I know what part of my post you took personally. Thanks for proving my point, though what I said wasn't about you specifically. You've gone out of your way to apprise me of your disapproval, and to thank others who have said exactly the same things. Awesome!3 -
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✭✭✭if I see an enemy player, chances are im jumping them. even if they are VR12 and im 20, im still jumping them:) its a PvP zone, you cant tell players not to kill you in the only PvP zone.
now a "flag" system would be neat I think, but if you enter the PVP zone, you are, at some point, going to get jumped. if you cant seem to defend yourself against gankers, grab some friends and get them to help you.
I do think its lame that people have to jump players turning in quests, but, again, its a PvP zone. They can do whatever they want. If you have to, do what I did and join a campaign completely dominated by your faction. it will make your PvP questing life much easier.
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Personally? Nah, to me you're just the usual statistical PVPer - Joe, *** and Harry, level 38 Nightblade or Veteran 12 Templar, it doesn't matter really.The point of my post was that your question doesn't even make sense, as others have said. There is no such etiquette, and even raising the question of such an etiquette shows a lack of insight. Actually, I know what part of my post you took personally. Thanks for proving my point, though what I said wasn't about you specifically. You've gone out of your way to apprise me of your disapproval, and to thank others who have said exactly the same things. Awesome!
Once again showing your lack of insight. None of this is about you and me, and it's sad that you feel the need to go there. Unless you have something substantive to say that isn't repeating yourself, we're done here.Edited by Srugzal on September 11, 2014 3:49PM3 -
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✭✭✭Looks like the OP is coming to the overdue realization that many PVPers are simply [snip].
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_JoanaL on September 12, 2014 12:46AM6 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭1. Always sneak. It might take forever, but sneaking will save you much grief.
2. Choose a guest campaign where your alliance is dominating. If you can't, stick to quest hubs where the nearest keep belongs to your alliance. You can then get help from the NPC guards against gankers. The only exceptions are Chorrol, Bruma and inside Cheydinhal.
3. Stay up late or come on early for PvE when the servers are quiet. Fewer players mean less chance of getting ganked. I did all my Cyrodiil PvE after 1am and only saw 3 players over 2 weeks.
Other than the above advice, the only things left to say is that you are in a PvP zone so you need to be prepared to fight should it come down to it. Additionally, you can use visual cues to help avoid potential attacks e.g.
- if there are no NPCs where they usually are then someone has recently PvE'd in the area and so be careful.
- Dead players of any alliance means someone is active in the area.
- Friendly players running around outside of stealth (more than 1) means the area is clear
- Lowby players of enemy alliances are less likely to attack you
- Hostile NPCs getting aggroed or out of normal position means someone is around.
Hope this does help you survive and get the achievement.
Now if only they'd give a title and/or dye for it.
The Legendary Nothing5 -
Talcyndl✭✭✭✭✭Read again mista. I'm not asking for advice on 1v1 battle or something. And I don't think I'm less an enemy. I just want to know if there's some communication between alliances or anything like that to let the other guys know that I'm not interested in fighting you.
No. It's PvP. We kill each other. Enemy players will kill you if they see you (and you can't kill them first). If you whisper them asking them to stop, they will almost certainly laugh at you.
Tal'gro Bol
PvP Vice Officer [Retired] and Huscarl of Vokundein
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Kewljag_66_ESO✭✭✭✭✭When ever you are in the quest towns in Cyrodiil you should always be sneaking.1
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Kewljag_66_ESO✭✭✭✭✭You also have to remember that you are worth alot of rewards to those enemy players. Killing you will give alot of exp as well as alliance points. Killing you is also part of quests that give good rewards. Alot of the people you cross in these towns are looking for PVP action to mix in with their questing2
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Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭Oh god..... Trammel is coming back.Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
Vr14 Dk bow/2h
Brayan Blackthunder
Goddick
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Nefrast✭✭✭I often get quests like "kill 20 templars", "kill 20 dragon knights", etc. So if I try to kill you don't take it personally - it's just because after a hard day's work I enjoy a little bit of questing in Cyrodiil.6
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there WAS a title for it.. but they removed it.dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »1. Always sneak. It might take forever, but sneaking will save you much grief.
2. Choose a guest campaign where your alliance is dominating. If you can't, stick to quest hubs where the nearest keep belongs to your alliance. You can then get help from the NPC guards against gankers. The only exceptions are Chorrol, Bruma and inside Cheydinhal.
3. Stay up late or come on early for PvE when the servers are quiet. Fewer players mean less chance of getting ganked. I did all my Cyrodiil PvE after 1am and only saw 3 players over 2 weeks.
Other than the above advice, the only things left to say is that you are in a PvP zone so you need to be prepared to fight should it come down to it. Additionally, you can use visual cues to help avoid potential attacks e.g.
- if there are no NPCs where they usually are then someone has recently PvE'd in the area and so be careful.
- Dead players of any alliance means someone is active in the area.
- Friendly players running around outside of stealth (more than 1) means the area is clear
- Lowby players of enemy alliances are less likely to attack you
- Hostile NPCs getting aggroed or out of normal position means someone is around.
Hope this does help you survive and get the achievement.
Now if only they'd give a title and/or dye for it.
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Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭You can pm the person who killed you and tell him to pretty please stop killing you.Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
Vr14 Dk bow/2h
Brayan Blackthunder
Goddick
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭You cant , reason i did all my cyro achivs/skyshards... on an empty cyro that my faction had control over.
If there is nobody there , then there is nobody to bother you.
Had very few problems , i guess only once i actually had to deal with gankers (but they were lvl 30 ... one must wonder why both of them even bothered ganking me multiple times).
When i actually met many enemy players i called on chat, then my faction came and cleared them out so that they keep in mind to stay out of our cyro :P."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Harnesh✭✭✭LonePirate wrote: »Looks like the OP is coming to the overdue realization that many PVPers are simply d-bags.
The question itself encouraged the responses. Go over to the PvE board and say" I want to get the achievement for completing all Trials and dungeons
is there a way I can turn the mobs off so I don't have to deal with them and can just get the achievement?"
Do that and I bet you get responses worse than the OP got here.
Oh yea make sure to state that you hate PvE in your original question as well.Edited by Harnesh on September 11, 2014 6:24PM6 -
Shaun98ca2✭✭✭✭✭If you swim far enough into the ocean your bound to meet a shark. Sometimes the shark comes in shore seeking you out.4
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✭✭✭...I simply want to know if there's some unwritten rule or some form of etiquette that I should follow to let people from other factions know that "Hi! I'm questing here and I will not fight you. Will you please let me mind my own business?"...
You are free to mind your own business.
In Cyrodiil my business is killing any enemy player I see though. Business is good."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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✭You are free AP. You are that shiny penny that glints in the sunlight...worth only a penny but definitely gonna pick up.4 -
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✭✭✭Tintinabula wrote: »You are free AP. You are that shiny penny that glints in the sunlight...worth only a penny but definitely gonna pick up.
I like to do my PvE daily quests at the same time as doing the Kill 20 Enemy Players quest. Adventure around Cyrodiil doing Fighter's Guild bounties and exploring (frequently trafficked) caves and towns as PvP hotspots.
As far as I am concerned, an enemy alliance indicator above the head is simply a quest marker. Some may provide a more interesting fight than others, but all of them gotta die."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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seanolan✭✭✭✭Seriously,quit arguing with people who have answered your question. Stop saying they didn't read your post and are giving you useless information. They are answering your question to the extent it can be answered. Here, let me simplify it for you. Don't bother arguing; I'm not going to argue it. The answer to your titular question is simple: you cannot.Edited by seanolan on September 11, 2014 7:09PM3
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I know u said don't say it, but killing you is the point of PvP. There is nothing you can do, fight or die.2
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✭LonePirate wrote: »Looks like the OP is coming to the overdue realization that many PVPers are simply d-bags.
Not as many d-bags as in PvE though. After 15 years of online gaming, I can safely say that the biggest jerksoffs are found in PvE land. You wont get publicly humiliated, verbally abused and kicked from groups in PvP, because you have the wrong cookie cutter build or aren't topping the dps meter.
@OP: Get the Night's Silence armour set for 60% sneak speed. Mounted solo players always get jumped in Cyrodiil. Bunny jumping sometimes makes people not attack you. It sort of means that you aren't going to attack them. But that doesn't mean they wont kill you, of course. You're still a nice chunk of AP.2