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The state of Chillrend/Thornblade [NA]
Lfehova
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Hi,
I'm Hova, the pvp lead of No Mercy (a NA DC guild). I've gotta a metric [snip] of angry PMs and seen a lot of complaints about chillrend and it being another buff campaign and I wanted to clarify some things.
I apologize for the state of the map, it was not No Mercy's intention to turn chillrend into another buff server.
A little background on what happened. When the new campaigns started, the populations were relatively even. Then about 10-15days into Thornblade, a large population of EP including all the oceanic EP left to chillrend. There was dispute between No Mercy, and some EP guilds, and I threatened to take bow of shadows for a DC buff server. After a few days of farming EP at their home keeps, I got several tells from DC pve leaders about getting our alliance a buff server because they had trouble completing trials hard mode without it. So we went and took the buff server, spent a few days defending it, and the EP completely left Thornblade save a few small groups.
The result was, a massive ad oceanic crew 5am flipping everything yellow on thorn unchallenged. And a massive EP oceanic crew flipping everything on chillrend unchallenged.
I was approached by the ad oceanic crew to try to fix this imbalance. So at reset, I brought my guild No Mercy over to chillrend in an attempt to demoralize the EP a bit and push them back onto Thornblade. The EP and AD oceanic crews are actually a good match for each other, and I've seen them have some good fights.
What I did not anticipate was a ton of DC following us to chillrend, resulting in a massive day time DC force capping everything during the day.
Anyways, I apologize for the state of the map, it likely won't fix itself anytime soon due to the massive blue day Zerg. All I can say is go play on Thornblade where yellow and red are having a pretty even campaign, it seems all the "***" reds have gone there, but they're actually dominating the massive AD Zerg. So I'm not sure who the *** is anymore rofl.
Anyways, I hope this clears some stuff up and I encourage the AD guilds to not run from Thornblade, and to stay there and fight. Good luck. See you all out on the battlefield.
Hova
P.s. When chillrend is quiet, we'll guest over to give you guys all some more good fights.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on September 10, 2014 4:38PM I'm Hova, the pvp lead of No Mercy (a NA DC guild). I've gotta a metric [snip] of angry PMs and seen a lot of complaints about chillrend and it being another buff campaign and I wanted to clarify some things.
I apologize for the state of the map, it was not No Mercy's intention to turn chillrend into another buff server.
A little background on what happened. When the new campaigns started, the populations were relatively even. Then about 10-15days into Thornblade, a large population of EP including all the oceanic EP left to chillrend. There was dispute between No Mercy, and some EP guilds, and I threatened to take bow of shadows for a DC buff server. After a few days of farming EP at their home keeps, I got several tells from DC pve leaders about getting our alliance a buff server because they had trouble completing trials hard mode without it. So we went and took the buff server, spent a few days defending it, and the EP completely left Thornblade save a few small groups.
The result was, a massive ad oceanic crew 5am flipping everything yellow on thorn unchallenged. And a massive EP oceanic crew flipping everything on chillrend unchallenged.
I was approached by the ad oceanic crew to try to fix this imbalance. So at reset, I brought my guild No Mercy over to chillrend in an attempt to demoralize the EP a bit and push them back onto Thornblade. The EP and AD oceanic crews are actually a good match for each other, and I've seen them have some good fights.
What I did not anticipate was a ton of DC following us to chillrend, resulting in a massive day time DC force capping everything during the day.
Anyways, I apologize for the state of the map, it likely won't fix itself anytime soon due to the massive blue day Zerg. All I can say is go play on Thornblade where yellow and red are having a pretty even campaign, it seems all the "***" reds have gone there, but they're actually dominating the massive AD Zerg. So I'm not sure who the *** is anymore rofl.
Anyways, I hope this clears some stuff up and I encourage the AD guilds to not run from Thornblade, and to stay there and fight. Good luck. See you all out on the battlefield.
Hova
P.s. When chillrend is quiet, we'll guest over to give you guys all some more good fights.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)
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Ifthir_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Great post. You didn't have to make this post and its obvious this wasn't all your guys fault. Even if it was, you are allowed to bring your team wherever.
Keep kicking ass.
PS - What EP guild started this dispute? Was it one of the guys who just recently quit?1 -
Draxys✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Now that the reds have disappeared from chill, it might rebalance things if some blue guilds move back to thorn next time around. (Not saying NM should, I'd actually prefer you stay for the decent fights.) But I'm not holding my breath, buff camps are still a thing.2013
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Lfehova✭✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »Great post. You didn't have to make this post and its obvious this wasn't all your guys fault. Even if it was, you are allowed to bring your team wherever.
Keep kicking ass.
PS - What EP guild started this dispute? Was it one of the guys who just recently quit?
If I name names, I'll get warned for naming and shaming
All I know is, the majority of organized EP guilds are now on Thornblade, so if the whatever AD moved off of Thornblade at reset moves back there, it should be good fights. I'm sure NM will be guesting there a lot more now for some great three way fights. Hopefully the campaign scores can stay somewhat even for a fun competitive campaign.Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)0 -
Lfehova✭✭✭✭Now that the reds have disappeared from chill, it might rebalance things if some blue guilds move back to thorn next time around. (Not saying NM should, I'd actually prefer you stay for the decent fights.) But I'm not holding my breath, buff camps are still a thing.
I hate buff campaigns with a passion. It goes completely against the whole concept of pvp, which is fighting for your buffs. The fact that there are campaigns so dead that alliances can have permanent buffs is a large misstep in terms of planning by ZoS. I'm sure they'll rectify it sooner or later by removing a few more vet campaigns. At least I hope so.Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)4 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭
Real Timeline of events on Thornblade/Chillrend:- Thornblade1.0 starts, balanced fun fights for 2 weeks.
- 2 weeks later AD/DC grapple for 1st and EP is too far behind to compete.
- DC takes the Bow of Shadows buff server away from EP
- Major EP guilds leave Thorn to turn Chillrend into a buff server
- Without the EP players to keep AD's night crew in check, AD pulls ahead of DC on Thornblade.
- Much complaining takes place about AD nightcapping the entire map on Thornblade, and EP nightcapping the entire map on Chillrend.
- Alacrity leaves Thornblade to help AD on Chillrend, since it is now an EP buff server.
- 1 week passes with much complaining from every faction.
- Thornblade 1.0 ends in victory for AD, Chillrend 1.0 ends in victory for EP
- No Mercy goes to help DC on Chillrend
- Hijinx leaves Chillrend because they cannot pass Crystalized to get Emp.
- Thornblade 2.0 and Chillrend 2.0 start
- Chillrend 2.0 is fun and relatively balanced, Thornblade 2.0 is all AD
- After a few days DC's population grows very high during the day and they start to pull ahead of EP.
- Venatus comes to Chillrend from Thornblade to help Alacrity and AD.
- EGL comes to Chillrend from Thornblade because they can't fight the remaining AD on Thornblade, severely tipping the population balance of both servers.
- Major EP guilds leave Chillrend for Thornblade because they cannot pull ahead of DC or even pull a single Emp.
- EHJ leaves Chillrend for Thornblade because they cannot pull ahead of No Mercy for Emp.
As of now the major guilds that remain on Chillrend are:- No Mercy [DC]
- EGL [DC]
- Alacrity [AD]
- Venatus [AD]
As of now the major guilds that remain on Thornblade are:- EHJ [DC]
- IR [EP]
- Hijinx [EP]
- Vokundein [EP]
- DiE [AD]
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Ifthir_ESO✭✭✭✭✭@Nala_ that's a pretty bold assertion that Hijinx left because they couldn't get Emp.
That doesn't sound like how Hijinx behaves from my memories, are you sure of that?2 -
Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?Alacrity
Retired 05/04/15.5 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »@Nala_ that's a pretty bold assertion that Hijinx left because they couldn't get Emp.
they couldn't get emp and were getting rolled by the new AD/DC that were coming over. they stayed for a few days after chill reset, then left to farm all of the AD pugs on thornblade by themselves.Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
there have been so many different people giving their end of the timeline of events that took place, and noone had actually given a real one yet so i was forced to do it2 -
Lfehova✭✭✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
Seriously. I'm flabbergasted.
But I do appreciate the added insight or personal interpretation.
Edit: I can only know for sure why/what No Mercy did.Edited by Lfehova on September 10, 2014 4:02PMCharacters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)0 -
Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
I'm almost tempted to take him off ignore to find out.
Almost.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
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Lfehova✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
I'm almost tempted to take him off ignore to find out.
Almost.
He took a shot at your guild. Shots fired.Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)0 -
Pixysticks✭✭✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
I'm almost tempted to take him off ignore to find out.
Almost.
Other than the intentions of some of the guilds mentioned, it's actually accurate. No one can answer for the intentions of the guilds in question, except themselves. And I think their answers would be as askew as Nalas were, just in the opposite direction-- so we should just ignore the reasoning and take the timeline solely for the chronological order of things.Alacrity
Retired 05/04/15.1 -
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✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
I'm almost tempted to take him off ignore to find out.
Almost.
He took a shot at your guild. Shots fired.
Not surprised, nor worth responding to.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
Once a General, now a Citizen
Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!4 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭you can hate me for being honest. but in times like these where politics influence everything thats said, the only way to get a completely honest response out of someone is if its completely anonymous, which is why im the best man for the job
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Xexpo✭✭✭✭✭You guys realize that 90% of pvpers have no idea/don't care who the hell any of you are , right?
How it happened for most of DC:
-Thornblade1.0 starts, balanced fun fights for 2 weeks.
-2 weeks later AD/DC grapple for 1st and EP is too far behind to compete.
-Without the EP players to keep AD's night crew in check, AD pulls ahead of DC on Thornblade.
-Much complaining takes place about AD nightcapping the entire map on Thornblade
-Thornblade 1.0 ends in victory for AD
-Every DC player (including probably EG) who got sick of the AD overnight capping but, had stuck it out until Thornblade reset, left for the ONLY other viable campaign at the time: Chillrend.
Now Chill is saturated with DC.
Most players aren't fair-weathering campaigns or following guilds around.
There are only a limited number of 'non-buff' campaigns to choose from.
I am sure more DC will be filtering back to Thornblade soon, as many have already homed Bow of Shadows and just want to pvp.
Kiki Dickson ~~~ Dixmanian Devil ~~~ Cornelius Buckshank Jr.
Histy-Fitz ~~~ Boozemer ~~~ Chace X'expo
Lluvia De'Fuego ~~~ Shakes Spear
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SoulScream✭✭✭✭✭I was having a lot of fun with the scores close but since then good pvp has been difficult to find. Oh well leveling up some alts.0 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭the tldr version is: EP running away from competition to farm pugs threw off the balance of pvp for the entire game, at least temporarily2
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Ifthir_ESO✭✭✭✭✭My recollection of the TL;DR version is actually
Some EP guild talked trash to NM
NM went to that EP guilds buff server and annihilated it
EP can't work together and got farmed and the buff server became DC's
EP fled to other servers
EP on Chillrend got butthurt people came to their server and went to Thornblade
Lots of moving servers for all guilds, all alliances
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Braidas✭✭✭✭✭
I agree, but b/c I'm bored at college...Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Pixysticks wrote: »Did Nala actually just make a serious post that's for the most part, accurate? Is this real life? Did Nala get hacked?
I'm almost tempted to take him off ignore to find out.
Almost.
He took a shot at your guild. Shots fired.
Not surprised, nor worth responding to.
I'm not sure where you get your info from...but yes, we were originally on Chill to flip emp (which we got like 12 or something the first 2 cycles), but once the EP swarm came in it was very difficult (though we managed a few more), and mostly stuck around to try to win the campaign. We enjoyed fighting the red zerg though and stayed for 2.0 and into a bit of 3.0, but then switched over to Thorn after tons of DC came to Chill for reasons stated. Seeing DC at 2-3 bars, AD/EP at 1 bar during the day on Chill, and TB being mostly EP/AD, we switched over. We go where we're outnumbered and can have fun fights - not sure why you want to start a "who can farm better" war between EHJ and No Mercy/ Hijinx (can't speak for agrippa, but I highly doubt they give 2 *** about emp) and IR. I'd say 95% of us are homed on BoS anyway and only farm when there are too many enemies to capture anything lol.EHJ leaves Chillrend for Thornblade because they cannot pull ahead of No Mercy for Emp.
Basically, everyone from Chill went to TB and vice versa lol.
All I know is, the majority of organized EP guilds are now on Thornblade, so if the whatever AD moved off of Thornblade at reset moves back there, it should be good fights. I'm sure NM will be guesting there a lot more now for some great three way fights. Hopefully the campaign scores can stay somewhat even for a fun competitive campaign.Ifthir_ESO wrote: »Great post. You didn't have to make this post and its obvious this wasn't all your guys fault. Even if it was, you are allowed to bring your team wherever.
Keep kicking ass.
PS - What EP guild started this dispute? Was it one of the guys who just recently quit?
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Braidas✭✭✭✭✭
A lot of shifting for essentially the same campaigns lmao.Ifthir_ESO wrote: »My recollection of the TL;DR version is actually
Some EP guild talked trash to NM
NM went to that EP guilds buff server and annihilated it
EP can't work together and got farmed and the buff server became DC's
EP fled to other servers
EP on Chillrend got butthurt people came to their server and went to Thornblade
Lots of moving servers for all guilds, all alliances
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Profit
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LariahHunding✭✭✭✭Sounds like freaking soap opera."Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."
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✭✭✭✭This is all why there should only be 1 main PvP server. I'd rather wait an hour in queue if it was guaranteed to be pop capped by all factions and be a fun fight.Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||7 -
Lfehova✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »This is all why there should only be 1 main PvP server. I'd rather wait an hour in queue if it was guaranteed to be pop capped by all factions and be a fun fight.
100%. Agree.
Signed. Stamped. Approved.
ZoS?Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
Class: DK/DK/Sorc/Templar
Guild: No Mercy
Alliance: Daggerfall
Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)1 -
Nala_✭✭✭✭like i said, people always have excuses for running from competition but we all know the real reason behind it0
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Renuo✭✭✭I'm getting dizzy try to follow all the oceanic EP/AD around. Can the musical chairs stop please??
There's just about enough on during off-peak hours to have 3bars or lock each alliance... stop running from each other!Dark Renuo - Nightblade - Daggerfall Thornblade
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Braidas✭✭✭✭✭
? we went to fight the same people we were fighting before in a place with less dc...your first comment was serious and i responded in a serious manner but now you're just trolling so i will respond with this smiley facelike i said, people always have excuses for running from competition but we all know the real reason behind it
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balberith✭✭EHJ and EG leadership have bad blood between them. I think that had something to do with EHJ leaving once EG showed up. Its unfortunate that some of the DC leadership holds grudges for months still. Although I was glad to see DC day/night cap guilds finally unite for a few days and make progress in a meaningful campaign. I hope the DC leadership can work together in the future as they did in the beginning of Chill 2.01
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Nala_✭✭✭✭I'm getting dizzy try to follow all the oceanic EP/AD around. Can the musical chairs stop please??
There's just about enough on during off-peak hours to have 3bars or lock each alliance... stop running from each other!
IR/Hijinx/Vonkundein/EHJ/EGL which guild runs the fastest when getting stomped? 50k gold raffle being held in-game to the guild most scared of competition.1
