Increase on weapon attack speed (weighted?) seems like a cool trait...until you learn to cancel animations. As long as that mechanic is in the game weapon speed seems kind of useless.

I like Precise or Sharpened on Weapons. And for armor I'm more interested in set bonuses than some of the traits.

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I would like to say that training is not useless when you are leveling an alt

It really depends on your build on my armor I use infused on the chest piece, legs, and head and the rest are impenetrable.

I find that the other traits are just there to make crafting stations something you have to work for

So most people think they are worthless and dont add enough to be viable? Intresting thoughts.. seems set bonus now out way the traits...
it is just as I thought with alot of usless traits so I wonder if they can be improved.
surley they are not just good for research...

I agree with @Ninnghizhidda‌ alot of the traits that people are saying are useless are actually potentially beneficial for lower level characters. Experience leveling up a skill line and xp gained from exploration are both useful for a lower level character trying to level faster. Defending and Reinforced provide more protection for newer players still learning the mechanics.

At higher levels then the 'optimum', for want of a better word, traits for people are usually infused on armour to increase health, magicka and stamina, divines (if you have already soft capped your resources and want a minor increase to another mundus stone skill like crit chance or crit damage), impenetrable or well fitted for PvP and precise on weapons for increase to crit chance.

Just because a trait isn't as useful for end game does not mean it was not useful at some stage of the game. I think the traits are fine as is.

like1tiger wrote: »

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I'm wondering what Traits people believe are must haves and how many of the Traits you actually think are worthless?

Armor:

Training: When I am leveling my characters, Training is important. Initial sets have Training on all or most all pieces. Once their armor/weapon skills are in the 30's or 40's I will stop using Training on all pieces, maybe on just some of them.

Exploration: Good when first entering a zone, so I make a set that has that across the board for traveling in new areas. Although, the boost is not that much once your over level 20 or 30.

Infused: Goes on the Major Enchant Pieces once the skill is leveled

Reinforced: I use this if I don't feel like improving gear

Never have used Divines (tried it, not worth it) or Well Fitted (I have a horse) or Impenetrable (don't' do PvP so no need)

Weapons

Training: See above, also useful to build up a skill late in the game

Precise: More Crits, what's not to love

Weighted: Nice for Bows or Staffs

Infused: Sure, more damage is better

Charged, Defending, and Powered are not something I use often, or at all.

Really, I need just 3 or 4 traits per line. The only reason I learn others is to make crafted sets. Of course this has bitten me lately as I just learned the 3 or so traits that I would use all the time and stopped doing the research until just recently. So, now I am focusing on that, and just now have reached 6 Traits in almost everything, 7 and 8 in a couple. Not sure if I am going to bother taking anything more to 8 Traits, although there is no reason not to do the research. Will wait to see what the 9th trait is before I decide on learning that or not.

If I start an alt, I will put training on one piece of armor and Exploration on the rest, then travel around to guild members and gain a couple of initial levels that way. I've not used Sturdy or Defending, but the others I've put on pieces depending on which character they are for.

dharbert wrote: »

Sturdy, training, and exploration are utterly useless. With the exploration trait, you would have to discover enough new areas to fill a small galaxy in order for it to even have a minimal impact on your xp gain.

This is so wrong.

I never bother with Sturdy because there are always better traits, but if you're using crafted sets (ie. not just wearing whatever drops you get) it'll save you money on repairs, so it can't be called useless.

Training, as has been pointed out, is fantastic to quickly level skill lines and get access to the skills you want faster.

Exploration is great when leveling, particularly at lower levels when you haven't discovered many locations, and when the xp gain from each discovered location is significant in relation to the amount of xp required to get to the next level. This is a trait that is probably the best one to use early on if you can get a full exploration set of gear, and it gets progressively less useful as you get progressively higher in level (I don't really bother with it past the mid 20s).

Im testing out training and exploration on a new alt now to see how effective they are.

For real min/maxers there are like five traits. There are others people use and some people like them but in reality for efficiency there are like five total traits.

PvE - Armor
Infused for large pieces.
Divines for small pieces.
PvE - Weapon
Precise

PvP - Armor
Impenetrable on everything.
Maybe Infused on large pieces if you are going for a burst build
PvP - Weapon
Sharpened
Maybe precise if you are going for a crit build impenetrable will make that a kind of silly choice.

Yes there are other options for leveling and specific situations but these are by far the most used end game traits.