Make AP gain accountbased

Maylinh · August 2014

I already made this threat once, but I really would like to see this happend.

The End of Campaign Leaderboard rewards now contain items if you are in the top 10% or higher for your Alliance.
The top 2% of the Leaderboard for each alliance will receive a gold set item and an ability-altering weapon.
The top 3% - 10% of the Leaderboard for each alliance will receive a purple set item.

Great!!! Finally people will have more reason to get higher in the leaderboard other then ego boosting.

But I have 3 active PvP chars. I only PvP in this game, I only PvE when I really have to.
For me it will be impossible to have a chance to get high in the leaderboards because I play on all 3.

I would love to see that they would make the AP gain/rank accountbased. I mean not with the skillpoints. If you make a new char, offcourse the new char has to grind it up again. But that all your earned AP will be visible on all active in PvP chars. Also means the reward is giving out to your account, not to 1 char. That wouldnt be fair.
So people who play with more chars in PvP have also a chance to get high in the ranking.

Let me know what you guys think of this, suggestions or what not.

MagicaDeHex · August 2014

I totally agree with this, i have 2 chars myself 1 on rank 32 and 1 on rank 20 and its really annoying to have to grind it all up on all characters. Would love to see some accountbased rank instead.

PF1901 · August 2014

Glad they'll never do this. Want to make yourself a name? Earn it!

Maylinh · August 2014

PF1901 wrote: »

Glad they'll never do this. Want to make yourself a name? Earn it!

Its not about a name, it is about having a chance as well on the rewards, its only fair right? Or do I have to get punished for having 3 different chars? Making a name for myself? I have other ways of doing that

I want to try all classes, in PvP. This is why I have more chars, and soon a 4th.

BEZDNA · August 2014

I'm totaly up for accountbased pvp rank, brcous in my opinion pvp rank first of all represents how experienced player is in AvA, how much time he spens there and how much effert he puts in this Alliance war, also i can understen ppl who have several characters, personaly I have 3 vr12 charaters, but i pvp only on my main, cous i don't want to lose that AP!
But I want to focus that despite the fact that i really like the idea of account based pvp rank, i don't cleay understend your idea about leaterbord - in my opinion leaderbord score shud stay chracterbased - becous it represents how god you are on the certain class and also emperoship depends on leaderbord too.

FluffiestOne · August 2014

5 days after this is put into affect:
I see 500 grand overlords.
I proceed to go on forums and complain how they ruined emperor now this.
I quit.
I go back to the dreadful WoW.
Panda time.

murmur · August 2014

To make it work as account based leaderboard ranking, all accounts should be locked to one alliance only.

imexzenob16_ESO · August 2014

Would love to see this implemented. Seeing that the high level pvp ranks take a lot of AP to get, this wouldn't be such a bad idea to have them for all of your characters. I think this would promote the idea of making a new character and trying it out for pvp, rather that just pvping with 1 character over and over again until you're bored, which is exactly what I done with my DK.

I'm not quite sure how the account bound leaderboard would work. For it to work as you say, they'd have to make it where your account was on the leaderboard rather than the character and AP gained throughout all your characters would be totalled up and then added to the leaderboard. So that if you're off pvping on your lvl 10 baby sorc, you'd still be getting AP and have a chance to get the top 10% and 3% pvp rewards.

If they did add this, it could increase the life span of pvp. Anyway, this is just my opinion.

Also; fix blazing shield and add player homes.

SoulScream · August 2014

pvp level account based, yes please

seanolan · August 2014

Nope. It wouldn't do what you think it would do anyway...if it were account based, then the ones who are already high up would also get the benefits of their alts.

SoulScream · August 2014

I don't see a problem with that. Plus the ones who are high already likely don't have alts.

Tripwyr · August 2014

MagicaDeHex wrote: »

I totally agree with this, i have 2 chars myself 1 on rank 32 and 1 on rank 20 and its really annoying to have to grind it all up on all characters. Would love to see some accountbased rank instead.

Do you seriously have this? I'm not saying there is no way you have this, but if you do your total earned AP is substantially higher than the highest ranked players currently in the game who play 8-12 hours/day on a single character in highly organized AP farming groups. There are currently only 2 rank 37 players on Thornblade, and this would put you not only above 37 but several ranks above it.

Toward the thread topic itself, please do this. I've earned Emperor on two characters, and it is frustrating that my attempts to adapt for my guild are hindered by the current ranking system. My highest ranked character is only 27 because I've split my time between multiple different characters which filled a required role at the time.

Why am I punished for splitting my Cyrodiil time between three characters instead of one? I am a naturally adaptive player who lacks the ability to absolutely master any single class, but instead I've become above average at all four to compensate my weaknesses.

Jaxom · August 2014

I only have 1 character in the game and I'd be for this. I don't see a reason why the total AP earned in a campaign cannot be accumulated through various characters. They already plan on making the Champion System accumulate through multiples, why not Alliance War stuff.

griszax · August 2014

How do You exactly plan to crown emperors with the system like this ?:P Every character on Your account gets it since the leaderboard is account based ? Thats just bad idea imo.

Better if ZoS focus on fixing all this broken stuff that is already in the game instead of adding another mechanic that they can *** up

Btw is there any info about these reward sets ? Are these some special sets only available through leaderboard or just random sets from all of the available (lol if the second option) ?

imexzenob16_ESO · August 2014

griszax wrote: »

How do You exactly plan to crown emperors with the system like this ?:P Every character on Your account gets it since the leaderboard is account based ? Thats just bad idea imo.

When you put it like that, yea. The idea does have a few flaws and a lot of restrictions would need to be put in place for it even to remotely work. But at the very least It would be nice to see account based pvp ranks :[

BEZDNA · August 2014

griszax wrote: »

Btw is there any info about these reward sets ? Are these some special sets only available through leaderboard or just random sets from all of the available (lol if the second option) ?

From patchnote: We’ve added powerful new ability altering enchantments that can drop on weapons found in the Dragonstar Arena, the Serpent Trial in difficult mode, and from the Alliance War Leaderboards. - so i think pvp is not the only way to get them.

Jaxom · August 2014

griszax wrote: »

How do You exactly plan to crown emperors with the system like this ?:P Every character on Your account gets it since the leaderboard is account based ? Thats just bad idea imo.

Better if ZoS focus on fixing all this broken stuff that is already in the game instead of adding another mechanic that they can *** up

Btw is there any info about these reward sets ? Are these some special sets only available through leaderboard or just random sets from all of the available (lol if the second option) ?

Valid argument. I suppose the character with the most accumulated AP would be crowned. If 60% of AP is from character A and 40% is from Character B, Character A is crowned. Not sure how it would be in practice but something to this effect possibly.

Azarul · August 2014

I just want the PvP rank account based more than anything.

Garion · September 2014

Tripwyr wrote: »

MagicaDeHex wrote: »

I totally agree with this, i have 2 chars myself 1 on rank 32 and 1 on rank 20 and its really annoying to have to grind it all up on all characters. Would love to see some accountbased rank instead.

Do you seriously have this? I'm not saying there is no way you have this, but if you do your total earned AP is substantially higher than the highest ranked players currently in the game who play 8-12 hours/day on a single character in highly organized AP farming groups. There are currently only 2 rank 37 players on Thornblade, and this would put you not only above 37 but several ranks above it.

@Tripwyr, I can confirm this is true... In fact his rank 20 char may well have increased recently but I am not sure.

ArconSeptim · September 2014

Maylinh wrote: »

I already made this threat once, but I really would like to see this happend.

The End of Campaign Leaderboard rewards now contain items if you are in the top 10% or higher for your Alliance.
The top 2% of the Leaderboard for each alliance will receive a gold set item and an ability-altering weapon.
The top 3% - 10% of the Leaderboard for each alliance will receive a purple set item.

Great!!! Finally people will have more reason to get higher in the leaderboard other then ego boosting.

But I have 3 active PvP chars. I only PvP in this game, I only PvE when I really have to.
For me it will be impossible to have a chance to get high in the leaderboards because I play on all 3.

I would love to see that they would make the AP gain/rank accountbased. I mean not with the skillpoints. If you make a new char, offcourse the new char has to grind it up again. But that all your earned AP will be visible on all active in PvP chars. Also means the reward is giving out to your account, not to 1 char. That wouldnt be fair.
So people who play with more chars in PvP have also a chance to get high in the ranking.

Let me know what you guys think of this, suggestions or what not.

Boosting your ego?That's why you want this?

bertenburnyb16_ESO · September 2014

well problem 1 would be the skillpoints comming with pvp ranks are char based, if u would start a new char it would be kinda wrong to instantly have already 30SP from your main chars pvp ranks, another thing is, now you get rewarded per char, even if a char has only spend an hour in the campain, in the end it will recieve the same reward as a char you played daily in pvp (not taking into account the extra bonusses of high leaderbord ranks, just the standard reward) so you would lose some g's there to

Braidas · September 2014

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

well problem 1 would be the skillpoints comming with pvp ranks are char based, if u would start a new char it would be kinda wrong to instantly have already 30SP from your main chars pvp ranks, another thing is, now you get rewarded per char, even if a char has only spend an hour in the campain, in the end it will recieve the same reward as a char you played daily in pvp (not taking into account the extra bonusses of high leaderbord ranks, just the standard reward) so you would lose some g's there to

why? you earned those skillpoints, you have to unlock the skills anyway.

Tankqull · September 2014

make a hybrid system.
emperor as it is.
every character achieves its own AP but to determine the end of campain reward the AP accumulated by all your characters is used for it.

in other words you would have two lists
highest AP character => emperor
highest AP acc => end reward [edit: but chars have to be in one alliance no fotm hopping]
and the ava ranks would still be connected to the character it self.

Tripwyr · September 2014

tankqullb16_ESO wrote: »

make a hybrid system.
emperor as it is.
every character achieves its own AP but to determine the end of campain reward the AP accumulated by all your characters is used for it.

in other words you would have two lists
highest AP character => emperor
highest AP acc => end reward [edit: but chars have to be in one alliance no fotm hopping]
and the ava ranks would still be connected to the character it self.

Can't have characters on opposite factions assigned to the same campaign, so hopping would not be an issue.

Garion wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

MagicaDeHex wrote: »

I totally agree with this, i have 2 chars myself 1 on rank 32 and 1 on rank 20 and its really annoying to have to grind it all up on all characters. Would love to see some accountbased rank instead.

Do you seriously have this? I'm not saying there is no way you have this, but if you do your total earned AP is substantially higher than the highest ranked players currently in the game who play 8-12 hours/day on a single character in highly organized AP farming groups. There are currently only 2 rank 37 players on Thornblade, and this would put you not only above 37 but several ranks above it.

@Tripwyr, I can confirm this is true... In fact his rank 20 char may well have increased recently but I am not sure.

Actually now that I looked it up, this isn't very impressive at all. Rank 32 + Rank 20 = Rank 35. Plenty of other players have this rank, not that it isn't a ton of work. My combined rank is 32.

s7732425ub17_ESO · September 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

5 days after this is put into affect:
I see 500 grand overlords.
I proceed to go on forums and complain how they ruined emperor now this.
I quit.
I go back to the dreadful WoW.
Panda time.

Obvious troll is obvious.

dcincali · September 2014

FluffiestOne wrote: »

5 days after this is put into affect:
I see 500 grand overlords.
I proceed to go on forums and complain how they ruined emperor now this.
I quit.
I go back to the dreadful WoW.
Panda time.

Tavore1138 · September 2014

Everyone wants to find a quick path to the top that just happens to be the way they like to play.

Personally I think the best rewards should come mainly to me and whatever style i prefer, suck it up everyone else