Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Best answer EVER........

Make HOLDING block COST STAMINA.

Blocking an attack would cost EXTRA Stamina.

Blocking mages......WONT block until necessary.

Hmmm...so if I'm holding my weapon with one hand, e.g. walking down the path, I use no stamina, but if I hold it with two, I do?

I get that getting hit - actually blocking damage takes a toll on stamina, but being on standby would not.

What, am I gripping the weapon tighter in anticipation?

Block and dodge for casters should be replaced with absorb and Blink and should cost magicka instead of stamina. Blocking should make it impossible to cast anything.

Blocking is broken in the same way like animation canceling.

You block 360° and you cancel animations even they were programmed for the game and every animation has a different duration.

Someone with a 2H blocks but needs the 2H for his sword abilities for the animation, wheras the opponent blocks with a Stave and can use certain abilities without even the need to release the block - because his attack has no animation at all.

Sounds like a big nonsens.

IMO, blocking while casting is as broken as animation cancelling, but at least they play somewhat nice with each other; while skill spamming, there is a defense mode where you block, and an offense mode where you weave light attacks, so at least that worked out somewhat.

That being said, I still think that you shouldn't have full access to all your offensive abilities while turtling down behind a shield. They already did that somewhat with cast time abilities, but since those are so rare and since they are the exception to the rule, it's easier to just not use them. Perhaps if they had made animation skills much better and actually the default for attacking, so you could consciously decide that you wanted to attack with instants which makes you less vulnerable but could be balanced with a higher cost/lower damage. There are some skills that would somewhat make sense to be able to use while blocking after all, taunting for example should be on that list.

All in all, I personally get the impression that the combat system was not really well thought out, and this is just another issue. There are lots of things that don't add up and they obviously didn't expect animation cancelling at all, and this issue permeates combat balancing.

Many skills with a cast time have a much longer animation then their tooltip (and are consequently balanced around the tooltip... rapid strikes was worse dps than auto attacking). Many skills with +xx% damage for next attack are therefore effectively almost useless, you only get the big bonus if you dont weave a light attack, which usually amounts to almost the same damage. And of course the whole light armor/magicka skills debacle that they really should have seen coming IMO.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Best answer EVER........

Make HOLDING block COST STAMINA.

Blocking an attack would cost EXTRA Stamina.

Blocking mages......WONT block until necessary.

Hmmm...so if I'm holding my weapon with one hand, e.g. walking down the path, I use no stamina, but if I hold it with two, I do?

I get that getting hit - actually blocking damage takes a toll on stamina, but being on standby would not.

What, am I gripping the weapon tighter in anticipation?

UMMM I don't know if you know this but it DOES make a HUGE difference.

As a soldier carrying your m4 up at your chest versus down by your side HUGE difference it gets tiring fast.

i feel that blocking and casting are fine for certain types of abilities, such as things that are gonna be more focused on your character not needing to do an animation like the medium armor active or something else that just kinda changes how your model looks. blocking and attacking doesn't make sense with most offensive abilities, some it does like a parry or something. I'd say almost make it more a timing thing and implement some sort of counter attack mechanic with the abilities.

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

Is there anything stamina builds can do better than magicka builds?

ANYTHING?

Sprint!

One step in the right direction for balancing this game would be to do away with being able to cast anything while you block. Blocking should be about timing, and being able to hold it down and cast through it ruins that aspect of the game. It also makes spells with a cast time basically non-viable.

If they fixed animation cancelling and block casting, this game would be a lot more balanced, and combat would be more interesting.

bump

Block casting is fine. If you changed it you would be forced to have no defense without immovable against CC while attacking. As-is you will lose your stamina quickly when attacked, and cannot do light attack weaving and thus lose single-target damage when casting while blocking. It already has large disadvantages compared to casting while not blocking, in terms of damage output, stamina loss, and movement speed reduction.

If you hold block, stamina should drain, being attacked or not. Getting attack should take more stamina also. While holding block every single skill should be gray-out, specially spells. If you start casting and hold block a second after, animation should prevent block from working until the spell/attack animation is done.

Anyone saying is fine is abusing a broken mechanic.

Block casting drains your stamina really quickly (unless you're a proper block/tank build). Being out of stamina equals death in PvP. So I think it's fine. If people want to jam down block, risking their most important resource, it's up to them.

If I throw one Caltroop down, no one in it's radius can block anyway. There's so many counters against cowardly blockers.

The only issue with block is the animation cancellation, it allows you to execute skills more quickly. I don't think that's perfectly balanced.

My DK's best offensive skills benefits way more from animation cancelling, than my Templar's clunky stuff, for example. It heavily favours insta-spam over skills with cast time or GT. I find that stupid. But hardly related to block, since you can cancel animation using addon.

This mechanic is broken. There are basically 2 kind of people that say it isn't:
-those who use it.
-those who never entered Cyrodiil and for that they couldn't see the obvious (people with sword and shield that are invulnerable to any damage, while destroying anyone with an absurd dps for a tank, group or single target it doesn't matter for them).

And again.
Casting while blocking. Seriously. Who even thought of a concept like this?

I'm sorry if I sound rude, but I actually did play the game and Cyrodiil and after my today session.. I got annoyed by a game.

I would say 360 degree block casting that protects you from almost everything in game to a huge amount including CC is probably the worst choice I can think of any modern MMO ever making. It just makes the classes that can block through their best skill automatically the best.

I choose other. Since this thread should never been born, we have enough of them......

and by the way, they aint removing it, since that would mean they would have to redesign the whole pve aspect of the game