Stopping the Green Alliance!

serenenightmare · September 2014

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

Pseudonym wrote: »

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

The DC/AD guilds have teamed up on...

Hold on a moment. You're suggesting people are using teamwork? Actually teaming up together to achieve their goals? Are we talking about the same Cyrodiil? The PvP place?

If this is true, I'm astounded, and happy; even as a fellow Pact member.

lol, and yes, guilds TKO/EGL/No Mercy teamed up to push us because they hate EP with a passion.

No Mercy has not teamed up with anyone.

We just enjoy farming banana's and raspberries

murtugo · September 2014

Besides, if you look carefully at the situation you will realize that the faction that is hurt most with the green alliance is not really EP but rather AD. That is why they are in the last place in this campaign.

It is just that the map is dominated by blue. AD cannot really do anything about it and they cannot earn points without hurting the green alliance.

Comet201 · September 2014

In No Mercy we have a saying... AD + EP = AP

Glantris · September 2014

in decibel we have a saying. unfortunately, nobody knows what it is.

GRxKnight · September 2014

murtugo wrote: »

Besides, if you look carefully at the situation you will realize that the faction that is hurt most with the green alliance is not really EP but rather AD. That is why they are in the last place in this campaign.

It is just that the map is dominated by blue. AD cannot really do anything about it and they cannot earn points without hurting the green alliance.

I've never cared about the standings in these new campaigns. I'm more concerned about farming AP which is why I spent the majority of pre-prime time up at farragut killing both reds and blues. A lot of AP was gained, a lot of kills and a decent amount of deaths were had. Was fun though.

So yes the "green alliance" was made in the last cycle of Chillrend to gang up on red for their transgressions in night capping and PvDooring while being so ignorant as to say that wasn't what was going on. Now however blue is doing it and, well, can't say I like that too much either. Can't stop PvDoor.

Paulhewhewria · September 2014

This is the first time I've posted in the alliance forum,so bare with me.I'm a pvx player I try my best to do everything,but I'm mainly pve. So that makes me a causal pvp player I guess even know I've put in a lot of hours. I'm not here to *** or bash any faction,but bring up 2 points. First I've seen AD and DC players standing side by side on the battle field helping one another. Second,lets say someone is in a different time zone shouldn't they be able to play the game just as us(Americans) because they paid with their hard urn-ed money to play the same as you or me. What I'm trying to say is when lets say a new player try's pvp and sees things like you can't play after a certain hour or both factions working together they're going to turn around and leave(I'll bet).
Yes,I'm EP and I've been pvp again since about a month ago how do I put this without a bias....every time one of our factions pushes enemy's to the gates and gets the scrolls that should be it.I said this because if you keep hammering the player base of that faction will do two things A(quit)B(move on to another faction/server).I post this not to be a jerk biased player,but in the hopes maybe we all can just play the damn game.I miss the good'old days of beta when when all of us were pretty much equal in faction status.

GRxKnight · September 2014

Red has already left the server it seems. And it's not for the lack of being able to do anything because they're constantly getting pushed in, but because the reds that ran the server last cycle tucked tail the second that they were challenged for anything. TSym and Crystalizes' guilds are the two major examples of this. Crystalize was the red emperor for the majority of the campaign because as soon as he/she was deposed, a few hours later they would crown him/her/it again due to no one being on to defend.

Now if you look at it from a blue and yellow standpoint, this is annoying to deal with because we can never do anything fun except reclaim our keeps and scrolls every night and wait for them to be taken back from us the next morning. But did we tuck tail and go and hide on a different server? No we stuck it out and farmed the red bads and are continuing to do so. Reds didn't do that. They saw that their buff server was threatened and so they left to go make something else their buff server. That's all they care about, and I will say it's more of a game design mechanic rather than reds being cowards, or at least I would like to think that.

Last night at Farragut I wasn't discriminating over reds and blues I was killing both of them just as equally. This so called green alliance was over the second EG came into the server and flipped the map entirely blue. Now I kill whoever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. The only alliance that was going on was one between TKO and EHJ during the last iteration of the campaign. It's done and over with so if you could stop your QQing (referring to the OP) then we can all move along.

bitaken · September 2014

EHJ left Chill due to the blue map and lack of targets. We find the massive amount of Yellow targets on Thorn to be quite tasty. While AD still turns the map yellow overnight - though not as badly as before - we have been able to hold down our keeps and push AD down to the triangle of home keeps fairly regularly on Thorn, even while they are pop locked. The fact that we made 50K in a failed defense of Ales with 6 guys while AD kept charging flags with 30+ was just riotous.

We did work with AD last segment on Chill. EVERY single morning we would wake up to a completely red map and EP defending every step of the way out of our starter area - to rayles/warden/glade. We eventually stopped bothering with those keeps till we had back capped and gotten some ground. It was painful daily to have to grind out keeps instead of enjoying PvP and let EP have scrolls. So, absolutely, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and we had a lot of fun punishing EP nightly during prime time for their 1) Trash talk on the forums how they owned us in the campaign score (based solely on their oceanic night cap team) 2) Non stop home keep humping with zero scrolls. Neither of those go off well. I am happy they have been chased off Chill - and am enjoying fighting the AD zerg on Thorn.

GRxKnight · September 2014

@bitaken we need to figure out where we're gonna make Dawnbreaker 2.0 with TKO EHJ and Hijinx when 1.4 drops

bitaken · September 2014

The 30 Day would be fun - the new one. Though, I might have to play either templar or DK and start all over QQ.

Really not happy that one of the best zerg busting tools is going away.

slowassferrariub17_ESO · September 2014

oil oil batswarm oil, streak batswarm oil?

JamieAubrey · September 2014

Now people know how AD feel when the Purple team starts fighting us

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2014

uh dominion from what i heard you guys own thronblade and haderus and the daggers now own chilldrend and bow of shadows us pact players are pvdoor as you put it in every servers that's played. I'm not saying there is a green alliance but you can kinda see why you being accused of haveing a green alliance. My opinion is that we need more servers again like 4 that (not includeing the non-vet one) is not enough for what is the other half of ESO cause PVP is well half of the game after all.

bitaken · September 2014

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

uh dominion from what i heard you guys own thronblade and haderus and the daggers now own chilldrend and bow of shadows us pact players are pvdoor as you put it in every servers that's played. I'm not saying there is a green alliance but you can kinda see why you being accused of haveing a green alliance. My opinion is that we need more servers again like 4 that (not includeing the non-vet one) is not enough for what is the other half of ESO cause PVP is well half of the game after all.

You are ill informed. The AD on Thornblade are quite pressed these days. They were hunkering in Faregyl to prevent their scrolls from walking away - and EP holds both DC scrolls at the moment. It's a rather balanced campaign at the moment with DC being outnumbered but fighting the good fight and holding their own.

The green alliance was real on Chill for a bit - don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise. Right up until Moritnh would try and grab my Ash - then it would get real and EP would come out of their hidey hole.

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

uh dominion from what i heard you guys own thronblade and haderus and the daggers now own chilldrend and bow of shadows us pact players are pvdoor as you put it in every servers that's played. I'm not saying there is a green alliance but you can kinda see why you being accused of haveing a green alliance. My opinion is that we need more servers again like 4 that (not includeing the non-vet one) is not enough for what is the other half of ESO cause PVP is well half of the game after all.

You are ill informed. The AD on Thornblade are quite pressed these days. They were hunkering in Faregyl to prevent their scrolls from walking away - and EP holds both DC scrolls at the moment. It's a rather balanced campaign at the moment with DC being outnumbered but fighting the good fight and holding their own.

The green alliance was real on Chill for a bit - don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise. Right up until Moritnh would try and grab my Ash - then it would get real and EP would come out of their hidey hole.

so thronblade pretty much became the new chillrend before chilldrend went to oblivion for the daggers zergs dominions leachers and pacts emp ***?

bitaken · September 2014

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

uh dominion from what i heard you guys own thronblade and haderus and the daggers now own chilldrend and bow of shadows us pact players are pvdoor as you put it in every servers that's played. I'm not saying there is a green alliance but you can kinda see why you being accused of haveing a green alliance. My opinion is that we need more servers again like 4 that (not includeing the non-vet one) is not enough for what is the other half of ESO cause PVP is well half of the game after all.

You are ill informed. The AD on Thornblade are quite pressed these days. They were hunkering in Faregyl to prevent their scrolls from walking away - and EP holds both DC scrolls at the moment. It's a rather balanced campaign at the moment with DC being outnumbered but fighting the good fight and holding their own.

The green alliance was real on Chill for a bit - don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise. Right up until Moritnh would try and grab my Ash - then it would get real and EP would come out of their hidey hole.

so thronblade pretty much became the new chillrend before chilldrend went to oblivion for the daggers zergs dominions leachers and pacts emp ***?

Pretty much. Most of the original EP from Chill are on Thorn. The AD on Thorn - outside of moon die's group - are a pretty sad bunch - but they have massive numbers. DC is vastly out popped - EP is locked during prime time - I would not be surprised to find out they have a sizable Queue to get in - and AD is locked pretty much all day. DC got to three bars tonight that was the highest I have seen it. However, it is a target rich environment and 100K/hour is not unreasonable

murtugo · September 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

Red has already left the server it seems. And it's not for the lack of being able to do anything because they're constantly getting pushed in, but because the reds that ran the server last cycle tucked tail the second that they were challenged for anything. TSym and Crystalizes' guilds are the two major examples of this. Crystalize was the red emperor for the majority of the campaign because as soon as he/she was deposed, a few hours later they would crown him/her/it again due to no one being on to defend.

Now if you look at it from a blue and yellow standpoint, this is annoying to deal with because we can never do anything fun except reclaim our keeps and scrolls every night and wait for them to be taken back from us the next morning. But did we tuck tail and go and hide on a different server? No we stuck it out and farmed the red bads and are continuing to do so. Reds didn't do that. They saw that their buff server was threatened and so they left to go make something else their buff server. That's all they care about, and I will say it's more of a game design mechanic rather than reds being cowards, or at least I would like to think that.

Last night at Farragut I wasn't discriminating over reds and blues I was killing both of them just as equally. This so called green alliance was over the second EG came into the server and flipped the map entirely blue. Now I kill whoever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. The only alliance that was going on was one between TKO and EHJ during the last iteration of the campaign. It's done and over with so if you could stop your QQing (referring to the OP) then we can all move along.

most of EP guilds went to thorn to face a more difficult opposition (AD)... i don't think its being coward. It is just that, EP never expected that DC would move to chill.

decado0024_ESO · September 2014

ShadoPanauin wrote: »

TKO + EGL = TGKL

new guild?

I would appreciate it if u didn't try and put my guild name up on ur little cry-me-a-river fest please. Also it is really funny watching you cry because your cheap little tricks aren't working anymore. So by all means keep feeding me those tasty tears.

bitaken · September 2014

murtugo wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Red has already left the server it seems. And it's not for the lack of being able to do anything because they're constantly getting pushed in, but because the reds that ran the server last cycle tucked tail the second that they were challenged for anything. TSym and Crystalizes' guilds are the two major examples of this. Crystalize was the red emperor for the majority of the campaign because as soon as he/she was deposed, a few hours later they would crown him/her/it again due to no one being on to defend.

Now if you look at it from a blue and yellow standpoint, this is annoying to deal with because we can never do anything fun except reclaim our keeps and scrolls every night and wait for them to be taken back from us the next morning. But did we tuck tail and go and hide on a different server? No we stuck it out and farmed the red bads and are continuing to do so. Reds didn't do that. They saw that their buff server was threatened and so they left to go make something else their buff server. That's all they care about, and I will say it's more of a game design mechanic rather than reds being cowards, or at least I would like to think that.

Last night at Farragut I wasn't discriminating over reds and blues I was killing both of them just as equally. This so called green alliance was over the second EG came into the server and flipped the map entirely blue. Now I kill whoever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. The only alliance that was going on was one between TKO and EHJ during the last iteration of the campaign. It's done and over with so if you could stop your QQing (referring to the OP) then we can all move along.

most of EP guilds went to thorn to face a more difficult opposition (AD)... i don't think its being coward. It is just that, EP never expected that DC would move to chill.

I'm happy you're on Thorn - but to say it's more difficult opposition when you were being flagellated on Chill is more than silly....it's downright insanity.

murtugo · September 2014

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I'm happy you're on Thorn - but to say it's more difficult opposition when you were being flagellated on Chill is more than silly....it's downright insanity.[/quote]

It is just my opinion...

EP never expected that most DC guild would transfer to chill. we never foresee that situation. but its true... it seems that we are "flagellated" in chill.

For me, its just a matter of cause and effect... we got arrogant and so we suffer its consequences. And i do admit that if EP did not transfer to thorn, it would still be difficult situation for EP to win the campaign.

As i have told you before @bitaken, the solution is not really to drive us away from chill but to call your DC friends for help.

GRxKnight · September 2014

murtugo wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Red has already left the server it seems. And it's not for the lack of being able to do anything because they're constantly getting pushed in, but because the reds that ran the server last cycle tucked tail the second that they were challenged for anything. TSym and Crystalizes' guilds are the two major examples of this. Crystalize was the red emperor for the majority of the campaign because as soon as he/she was deposed, a few hours later they would crown him/her/it again due to no one being on to defend.

Now if you look at it from a blue and yellow standpoint, this is annoying to deal with because we can never do anything fun except reclaim our keeps and scrolls every night and wait for them to be taken back from us the next morning. But did we tuck tail and go and hide on a different server? No we stuck it out and farmed the red bads and are continuing to do so. Reds didn't do that. They saw that their buff server was threatened and so they left to go make something else their buff server. That's all they care about, and I will say it's more of a game design mechanic rather than reds being cowards, or at least I would like to think that.

Last night at Farragut I wasn't discriminating over reds and blues I was killing both of them just as equally. This so called green alliance was over the second EG came into the server and flipped the map entirely blue. Now I kill whoever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. The only alliance that was going on was one between TKO and EHJ during the last iteration of the campaign. It's done and over with so if you could stop your QQing (referring to the OP) then we can all move along.

most of EP guilds went to thorn to face a more difficult opposition (AD)... i don't think its being coward. It is just that, EP never expected that DC would move to chill.

As soon as EG and NM dethroned Crystalize, him/her and his/her guild decided to pack up and leave the server for good. They had no incentive to leave the campaign after the end of the cycle because they were winning and have all the buffs they could ever want.

However when it became apparent that they weren't going to get those buffs back or retain them because NM and EG are vastly superior (EG only in numbers not skill) they tucked tail and ran away. The same for a few other minor PvP guilds. If what you're saying was true then all of EP would have left the monday that the campaign reset which was not the case.

Don't get me wrong there are still some EP on the server that have stuck it out and call Chillrend their home. But there aren't that many left from the Chillrend of old, or even the Chillrend of last cycle. You say they want a challenge yet from what I've witnessed based on playing against these reds is that, when presented with a challenge, they cower and hide.

Malveria · September 2014

There is no 'Green Alliance'. Anyone pushing on EP when we should be pushing DC are people that want to feel important. Believe me, AD zone is FULL of people telling them not to go to BRK, and they don't listen.

Don't call Alliance because a small group is going for the 'easier' fight.

GRxKnight · September 2014

As I've said earlier and many others have said. We don't care about the points in the server. There is no way AD can get second at this point so why even bother trying to hit blue. The reason we go after red was due in part of the BS that they pulled in the last cycle and tried to claim that they were gods. Whenever they were called out, they replied with "scoreboard" and proceeded to ignore how they got their first place standings.

I'm not coming up with excuses, I'm just saying what is known to be true. AD will push on red because of what happened in the last cycle. Whether it continues into the next iteration as well has yet to be determined. Blue is looking like the next faction to be reminded to not PvDoor.

Rylana · September 2014

I so want the OP to eat crow on this whole topic, its pretty hilarious in retrospect, the accusation, when ever since its basically been AD vs DC on chillrend with EP playing spectator.

TheBull · September 2014

Red is so slimy. They are the reason why things are they way they are. If they get pushed back to spawn, they leave the server and unbalance everything. They left Chill today and went back to thorn.

bitaken · September 2014

murtugo wrote: »

I'm happy you're on Thorn - but to say it's more difficult opposition when you were being flagellated on Chill is more than silly....it's downright insanity.[/quote]

It is just my opinion...

EP never expected that most DC guild would transfer to chill. we never foresee that situation. but its true... it seems that we are "flagellated" in chill.

For me, its just a matter of cause and effect... we got arrogant and so we suffer its consequences. And i do admit that if EP did not transfer to thorn, it would still be difficult situation for EP to win the campaign.

As i have told you before @bitaken, the solution is not really to drive us away from chill but to call your DC friends for help.
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I never called anyone for help. One day when EP was at 1 bar population I asked a friend to come help us flip emp - and he brought three buddies with him - that was the day OCOC got crowned emp on Chill. Beyond that EHJ does not call for help - and we always want to play on the DC underdog campaign. More Targets = More AP.

That's why you see us on Thornblade - not Chillrend.

Loads of AD - and EP to kill and have fun with. Chill is basically dead now is it not?

decado0024_ESO · September 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

@bitaken we need to figure out where we're gonna make Dawnbreaker 2.0 with TKO EHJ and Hijinx when 1.4 drops

yes for the love of god give me a balanced competitive pvp server and password it so the trolls and cheaters cant get in.