WOW! That looks awesome! I'll be downloading it as soon as I get home from work.

Pallmor wrote: »

Yeah, I guess it looks pretty. But I'm minimalist on add-ons. They cause crashes and inevitably every developer gets PO'd at some point or gets tired of maintaining it for free and it ends up abandoned.

Maybe I haven't elaborated enough. This poll is about including the functionality of the addon into the standard UI.

ZOS should be ashamed reading this.

The trouble any addons, over time they do break and there not always someone around to fix them to the current patch. If one gets depended on an addon and sudden with out warning goes away, it is much harder to go back to the default UI.

It is best not to get depend addons for that reason.

On the other paw, I would not mind if ZOS "borrow" some the addons ideas and add it their selves.

Yes I believe the OP was saying ZOS should implement and maintain this functionality as they're standard code/UI.

I just like it because it saves my search filter when going from trader to trader. Then I don't have to keep setting the same search 120 times.

The point is--the FUNCTIONALITY should be added, eliminating the need for an addon. Then it won't be an addon anymore. That's what the poll is asking--should it be adopted into the native UI. Not sure why this point is hard.

I use AwesomeGuildStore. It's indeed awesome, though I don't like using icons to search--I turn that off in its settings, and use the dropdown. The sliders are very nice, though.

But... the best thing--and the reason I got it in the first place--is it remembers your search filters from one kiosk to the next--saves a huge amount of time reselecting the same menus over and over when you're price shopping a single item.

AND--Yes, 100%. Zeni should be ashamed and embarrassed that addons like this are necessary for such basic UI functionality. We're not talking game balance, or removing bots, or adding new content. I'm talking simple menu and label and text dump into the chat windows stuff that require very little effort.

I have to use addons to fix, or at least mitigate, all of the below deficiencies of the interface (and there's more)--why? Why do I have to find them, maintain them, hope the scripter doesn't quit the game and updates them after every patch. These features are too basic for the people I bought the game from not to have included:

--No report of WHAT you sold in the sell confirmation from the guild store email.

--Not remembering search filters from kiosk to kiosk. (And terrible default filters--I mean--MOTIFS is listed first on all professions that use them. Motifs?)

--No dumping of ANY combat info into chat.

--Terribly limited sorting options in your inventory. Categories are way to broad.

-- Quick Slots. God. Using a 2nd or 3rd type of potion in battle via the quick slot "control" is maybe the worst implementation of any UI feature I've ever seen in a professional game. In the middle of battle, I have to: Looong hold Q, then mouse around a freaking radial control to what you want, let go, then quick hit Q. And do it all again if I want to switch to something else. Shameful and embarrassing. Addons just help a bit, but it's still a clumsy mess.



The above is just some of the issues. Again--these aren't HUGE issues that take weeks to correct. I feel like they're blowing them off, when if they would spend 2 or 3 days working on basic menus, informational display features and such, they would improve this game's feel enormously.

Cuyler wrote: »

Yes I believe the OP was saying ZOS should implement and maintain this functionality as they're standard code/UI.

I just like it because it saves my search filter when going from trader to trader. Then I don't have to keep setting the same search 120 times.

Yes, that's one of the main benefits of the addon.

Biased poll.

However, I do use AwesomeGuildStore. With it installed, I have had the game client crash when using a saved search (has happened 3 times over many days). I try to remember to /reloadui before using it so that my other addons do not lose data. The whole thing is a little odd when switching between guilds if you forget to do a search.

I thought the point of gaving API to users is exactly to not support UI tweaks and let to players to decide what we want/dont want. So I dont think ZOS will ever adapt addon because in that case they will need to support it all time, and someone maybe just dont need it.
BTW nice addon, I use it too.

Yes. And ZOS should pay the developer of this add-on whatever they would have paid their own devs to make this as penance for their own laziness and disregard for their customers.

Im using it since it came out and it works like a charm.

I think using my addon interface as the standard interface without changing a few things would be a bad idea. But yes, the current default UI could be so much better with a little work.

There are a few things I would have loved to do with my addon which are impossible or too complicated with the current API.
If they changed how the guild store works and move the whole filtering to the client side, addons could do many more interesting things.

It probably would not be too hard. They could compile all necessary data for a certain store once per day, download and cache it on the client and send only the changes since the last store visit afterwards. This would also reduce the processing power needed on the server and generally make the guild store search more responsive.

lordrichter wrote: »

However, I do use AwesomeGuildStore. With it installed, I have had the game client crash when using a saved search (has happened 3 times over many days).

Should not happen anymore in the latest version. If you lost any important data I am very sorry.

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Let's just hope the developer of that add-on does not get fed up with the game and quit and stops supporting the add-on.

Won't happen anytime soon (depending on CS up to 120 days).

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Yes. And ZOS should pay the developer of this add-on whatever they would have paid their own devs to make this as penance for their own laziness and disregard for their customers.

I make addons as a hobby, but I would not mind if they gave me a lifetime subscription and some special title in game. In that case I would probably stay forever