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Why all the cancelled maintenances?

Sindala
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Why have you cancelled another maint time? the second in a row??
It's not like the game don't need it, Euro server is suffering from horrible lag spikes and other 'no maint' related problems.

It's ok maybe to cancel the odd one but 2 in a row? the game is nowhere near ready for that sort of gap between re-starts.

Or is it that the recent lay-offs were all from the maint department......
If your gonna cancel the maint then atleast let us know why.
Edited by Sindala on September 4, 2014 9:33AM
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  • emeraldbay
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    The NA server is suffering pretty badly also. I really wish they'd just have a maintenance, for crying out loud.
  • Sharee
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    I guess they do not have a solution developed yet for the issues that would require a server downtime to implement, and the other issues can be fixed on the go.
  • Kayira
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    I thought it might be because update 4 is close to being released and they are thinking of pushing it out by next week so they are concentrating on giving the update the final touches.
    There have been missed maintenances a week before large updates before. But I guess only the developers will know.
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  • raglau
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    Yes, it's entirely feasible they'd roll those updates together, in order to lower service interruption and risk.
    Kayira wrote: »
    I thought it might be because update 4 is close to being released and they are thinking of pushing it out by next week so they are concentrating on giving the update the final touches.
    There have been missed maintenances a week before large updates before. But I guess only the developers will know.

  • Sindala
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    That would be an Update though, Maintenance is primarily the term used for 're-booting' the servers. To make sure they run correctly and don't get segmented and cause large lag issues due to the server having to search harder for each bit of information.

    Every MMO will have a Maint (re-boot) once a week to keep the servers clean and efficient.
    This game only having the 2 mega Servers certainly should NEVER miss a maint atleast once a week.

    A quick example is a bug appears due to a corrupt node, Weekly maint picks it up on restart and overwrites it to make good again. If this damaged node is left for a while the next re-boot will leave it in as other things have changed also, so it takes it as part of the new coding and starts creating new bugs because of it.

    A lamens terms would be, You see 1 ant in the corner of the room, kill it and it's gone.
    Leave it for a week and suddenly there are 40000 ants in the corner of the room and it becomes a big issue. ;)

    nb, i'm not a techy so I don't know the correct terms but I understand how things work. ;)
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  • Tavore1138
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    Maintenance is not the same as patching even though they do the two together most times - maintenance can often simply be about rebooting the hardware to clean up the sort of slow resource leaks and so on that are pretty unavoidable in complex code & lots of user sessions.

    It is curious to see them miss so many when the game is still suffering from odd behaviours.
  • raglau
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    Maintenance is not the same as patching even though they do the two together most times - maintenance can often simply be about rebooting the hardware to clean up the sort of slow resource leaks and so on that are pretty unavoidable in complex code & lots of user sessions.

    It is curious to see them miss so many when the game is still suffering from odd behaviours.

    It can be about scheduled reboots, yes. But more and more such a practice is out-dated and unnecessary. However, let's assume that it is required in this game, someone still may have made a risk vs benefit decision not to do it this week, if it was known a series of reboots may take place next week to support an update.

    We might not agree with that decision as players, but we don't know how much risk is attached to a reboot, the app may be so flaky they are crossing their fingers and praying the the Divines every time they reboot servers!
  • Sindala
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    The quickest way to tell a server needs a re-boot is to get hold of the camera and look around. If it's fluid (or as fluid as it normally is on you PC) then you can hold off on maint.
    If it starts looking 'choppy' like it's missing frames then the server is struggling and if lots of people start doing that then it will overload and crash because it's working un-efficiently and thus too hard.

    (I was told that little snippet by the Glorious Lord Long Starr himself back in the day and it's still true today)
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  • Mountain_Dewed
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    Static electricity I tell ya! Ya'll have no clue as to what this girl needs maintenance fer, it's static electricity!!!
  • Srugzal
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    Sindala wrote: »
    Why have you cancelled another maint time? the second in a row??
    It's not like the game don't need it, Euro server is suffering from horrible lag spikes and other 'no maint' related problems.

    It's ok maybe to cancel the odd one but 2 in a row? the game is nowhere near ready for that sort of gap between re-starts.

    Or is it that the recent lay-offs were all from the maint department......
    If your gonna cancel the maint then atleast let us know why.

    Seriously, calm down. Monday was a national holiday in the US, the last big 3-day weekend of the summer, Labor Day. People want to roll out the barbecue, have a beer.

    Can you imagine, too, having a maintenance period smack in the middle of a such a holiday, prime game time? People would be screaming their heads off.
  • AngryNord
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    Likely because of patch v.1.4x coming. Next week, possibly?
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Game is getting more stable so instead of maintaining it as much as they were they now wait til they had good deep down tweaks. That hopefully work much better than other tweaks they had done
  • SantieClaws
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    They usually cancel maintainences when they are away at an event. They don't want downtime when they are showing of the game and I assume they need some of their tech people out on the ground to make sure things run smoothly there.
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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Sindala wrote: »
    Every MMO will have a Maint (re-boot) once a week to keep the servers clean and efficient.
    Untrue, I play an MMO which hasn't had scheduled maintenance for many years and whose servers usually run for weeks at a time, only being taken down to apply content updates: FFXI.

    And LOL at a "re-boot once a week to keep the servers clean", a re-boot should achieve nothing on a well setup and working system in terms of provide smoother running, etc: not sure what your segmented comment refers to in this context.
    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on September 4, 2014 12:12PM
  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    because the game is running perfectly...

    (I made myself cry by saying that)
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  • Maotti
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    If they announced that they would be doing a maintenance now, i wouldn't be sad! I'd cheer.

    There are so much lag ingame now. And been for several days.
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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    Game is getting more stable
    So the many threads complaining about endless 'unknown errors', unplayable lag, repeated disconnections, etc. etc., etc. on both servers are fiction?

    If it's "more stable" now than it was is moot, if it is then it's still way, way off being 'stable' in any sense most people would expect.

    Plenty of things need fixing that can only be done during a downtime.
    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on September 4, 2014 12:21PM
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Game is getting more stable
    So the many threads complaining about endless 'unknown errors', unplayable lag, repeated disconnections, etc. etc., etc. on both servers are fiction created by the haters, are they?

    If it's "more stable" now than it was is moot, if it is then it's still way, way off being 'stable' in any sense most people would expect.

    10 people encountering problems does not equate to everyone. I didn't say it was perfect I said more stable. They f Ed the big blanket problems now they have to fix the smaller stuff which is hard to find and takes longer

    During release my guild mates would all get lag and 1-2 people whereby affected. Now out of 150 people 1-2 might hit lag. That's becoming more stable in my book
  • Gigglesnort
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    Maybe there are waiting for the MS patch Tuesday on the 9th to hit, then on Wednesday they will apply all their updates as well.
    Seems pretty stable to me so far, don't get disconnect, don't get lag, don't experience any fps drop that effect game play, don't get unknown errors,and don't have any wep switch problems, only thing I get is not being able to loot a mob and having to hit escape for it to work.
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  • Elsonso
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    I figure two things.

    First, I expect Update 4 next week so they are holding off on distributing patches outside of the Update.

    Second, I think they have been working behind the scenes on server performance and optimization and so the server can go longer without "reboot" maintenance. Compared to launch, the server we see today is much more resilient and needs much less of the "reboot" maintenance. They may have a goal of no need for this sort of maintenance.

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    Untrue, I play an MMO which hasn't had scheduled maintenance for many years and whose servers usually run for weeks at a time, only being taken down to apply content updates: FFXI.

    And LOL at a "re-boot once a week to keep the servers clean", a re-boot should achieve nothing on a well setup and working system in terms of provide smoother running, etc: not sure what your segmented comment refers to in this context.

    EVE Online has a server reboot every single day.
  • kitsinni
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    Untrue, I play an MMO which hasn't had scheduled maintenance for many years and whose servers usually run for weeks at a time, only being taken down to apply content updates: FFXI.

    And LOL at a "re-boot once a week to keep the servers clean", a re-boot should achieve nothing on a well setup and working system in terms of provide smoother running, etc: not sure what your segmented comment refers to in this context.

    EVE Online has a server reboot every single day.

    It is also an 11 year old game.
  • Badh0rse
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    Sindala wrote: »
    Why have you cancelled another maint time? the second in a row??
    It's not like the game don't need it, Euro server is suffering from horrible lag spikes and other 'no maint' related problems.

    It's ok maybe to cancel the odd one but 2 in a row? the game is nowhere near ready for that sort of gap between re-starts.

    Or is it that the recent lay-offs were all from the maint department......
    If your gonna cancel the maint then atleast let us know why.

    When something is this broken it is probably hard to find the right place to start .. I don't even know if the word maintenance truly covers what this game needs!

  • kenpachi480
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    I dont get it. Either all of the forum writers here are never on ESO facebook page OR you people are all sincere in that you want a maintenance

    because everytime when there is downtime I see people bashing Zenimax for being offline all the time
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  • rsciw
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    Maybe there are waiting for the MS patch Tuesday on the 9th to hit, then on Wednesday they will apply all their updates as well.

    If anyone runs an application like this on MS software, they should go back to school...
  • guybrushtb16_ESO
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    Sindala wrote: »
    The quickest way to tell a server needs a re-boot is to get hold of the camera and look around. If it's fluid (or as fluid as it normally is on you PC) then you can hold off on maint.
    If it starts looking 'choppy' like it's missing frames then the server is struggling and if lots of people start doing that then it will overload and crash because it's working un-efficiently and thus too hard.

    (I was told that little snippet by the Glorious Lord Long Starr himself back in the day and it's still true today)

    Notice the lols under your post? Sorry, but Lord Long Starr probably was either being an idiot himself or mocking you back then. Things being choppy like you describe is a fps issue, which depends entirely on your machine.

    Nothing the server has to do will ever affect your fps directly. Although some situations (like many people fighting in the same area simultaneously) may have both issues coinciding, they are still completely different things.
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    LOL. Yes because a game with perhaps 1 million users is so much more important than all the billions of dollars worth of data that is stored, transmitted and used by billions of people every day, using MS solutions.

    rsciw wrote: »
    Maybe there are waiting for the MS patch Tuesday on the 9th to hit, then on Wednesday they will apply all their updates as well.

    If anyone runs an application like this on MS software, they should go back to school...

  • Phantax
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    Why all the cancelled maintenances?

    Because they keep laying off all their staff and the ones left are really busy...lol

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  • Martinus72
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    Kayira wrote: »
    I thought it might be because update 4 is close to being released and they are thinking of pushing it out by next week so they are concentrating on giving the update the final touches.
    There have been missed maintenances a week before large updates before. But I guess only the developers will know.[/quote
    Kayira wrote: »
    I thought it might be because update 4 is close to being released and they are thinking of pushing it out by next week so they are concentrating on giving the update the final touches.
    There have been missed maintenances a week before large updates before. But I guess only the developers will know.

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