Two more thanks, perfect.

Im fine with everything between 5 and 8.
Dont need more but also dont want to have less.

In fact 1 or 2 more could be useful in some situations.

But as they are trying to release it for consoles I doubt they will add more. Even 5+1 makes the game playing with gamepad really hard if you are new to the game or such kind of games. (Saw this when my girlfriend had problems with the gamepad, while she never had with Morrowind, oblivion or skyrim)

Absolutely. Now I'm not saying we need a LOT of buttons. I'd like 3, settle for 2. My big issue is utility. I'd like to have my defensive cool down that may last 6 seconds accessible, but not in lieu of an ability that I use every fight.

NukaCola wrote: »

I have managed fine so far. You can do amazing things with weapon swap. But i think they have to add them in the future to change the meta game. I voted yes because its a shame that some good abilities need to be cut from the bar.

They aren't cut from the bar. You just aren't using them for a particular fight.

If your bars look the same for every fight/instance/group, you're doing something wrong.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

NukaCola wrote: »

I have managed fine so far. You can do amazing things with weapon swap. But i think they have to add them in the future to change the meta game. I voted yes because its a shame that some good abilities need to be cut from the bar.

They aren't cut from the bar. You just aren't using them for a particular fight.

If your bars look the same for every fight/instance/group, you're doing something wrong.

Of course you adapt to a role. But if im going in as dps i don't need to mess around with my bars too much.

Im fine with the five slots plus Ulti... what I would LIKE to see is slots for EACH potion (the current system of Q and mousing has got me killed MANY times). I would also like abilities that have to be "slotted" (ie mage light, clanfear, winged twighlight) have their own slots.

I'd like 9 slots per skill bar. It's a good number to play with, allowing better combinations than those I can do right now. My opinion, this is a poll : )
Even if we swap weapons, summons must be present in the two bars. That makes a tiny skill bar imo. I know the game is made in a way you must choose what to keep and what to change, but 9 slots wouldn't be gamebreaking.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

NukaCola wrote: »

I have managed fine so far. You can do amazing things with weapon swap. But i think they have to add them in the future to change the meta game. I voted yes because its a shame that some good abilities need to be cut from the bar.

They aren't cut from the bar. You just aren't using them for a particular fight.

If your bars look the same for every fight/instance/group, you're doing something wrong.

If your bars are not the same for every fight it means that you didn't find that really nice boring 2X3 button combination that is effective in any and all situations and allows you to steam roll trough the game without wasting time switching skills every five minutes. You are doing it wrong,

Just watched the QuakeCon panel again. With Spellcrafting coming up, I think we'll need more slots.

NakedSnake wrote: »

EinionYrth wrote: »

I post as a summoner and I say:- For the love of god please allow this dead horse to rot in peace; stop beating it. The system is intended to cause you to make difficult choices, just make them and stop whining. If people don't swap weapons/ bars that's their problem. 2x5 + 2U is enough.

I don't think that is the point. Most MMO's provide 120 slots. Saying that providing only 12 slots is to force a difficult choice is grossly understating the reality of the situation. Of course most MMO's also require a lot more skills to be effective so perhaps there is an equal ratio of slot bar to number of skills between this MMO and others.

@NakedSnake, I do hope you're being sarcastic. Why would you possibly need 120 slots!?

I have two potential recommendations for this:

1. I'm ok with addition of one extra slot, if that slot allows some method to Search forum threads before duplicating a worn out post.
2. There should be the option to remove weapon swapping and 1-5/Ult and change to one button, mapped to the key of your choosing.
   
   Pressing this would activate every skill you have in the game at once.
   
   With a single keypress you would attack, block, and cast, while simultaneously making and drinking a potion, cooking and eating a food, and crafting a full set of weapons and armor which you would immediately decon.

You have a ridiculous number of skills to choose from. Adjust the to the scenarios and use some strategy and skill.

Make better choices, not more of them.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

NukaCola wrote: »

I have managed fine so far. You can do amazing things with weapon swap. But i think they have to add them in the future to change the meta game. I voted yes because its a shame that some good abilities need to be cut from the bar.

They aren't cut from the bar. You just aren't using them for a particular fight.

If your bars look the same for every fight/instance/group, you're doing something wrong.

If your bars are not the same for every fight it means that you didn't find that really nice boring 2X3 button combination that is effective in any and all situations and allows you to steam roll trough the game without wasting time switching skills every five minutes. You are doing it wrong,

Yeah, my groups love it when I don't bring any utility skills to the dungeon so that I can pretend that I'm winning a non-existent measuring contest with the other DPS.

I really thought that by now, the game design would have broken through some of the thicker skulls in this community to teach them that this isn't WoW. The game isn't meant to be played like WoW. Never was. Never will be. Stop it.

As if you can't have utility in any old 2x3 active skills combo.
How nice of you to assume that I played WOW and it's how want to play then throw insults around.

Cogo wrote: »

Amazing how people simply ignore facts lol!

The bar system is there to prevent future additions to unbalance the game.

Zenimax stated, its in the system. It makes sense.

This is like watching kids argue about where santa claus lives, and mean it.

There are many statemnt
Yes, we all know why the system is like that and what the motivations of the devs were. However at no point did they say that this or any system for that matter will forever remain untouched .They are actually quite willing to change systems that doesn't work or are widely unpopular form what have seen up to now. They have also never said that adding more slots would completely ruin balance or that it would be absolutely impossible to re-balance the game if they added one or two more skills or changed how some of the toggle skills work.

The truth is that a large portion of the player base thinks that current 2X5 slot system has responsiveness issues , limits play styles,promotes simple bare essential cookie cutter builds, makes pvp predictable since in the end almost everybody ends up with the same attacks and counters. Since we pay our subs we have the right to express our opinions as loud and as often we want even if the probability of a change is low.. If it bothers you so much don't read it instead of going around being insulting.

NukaCola wrote: »

People can make this swapping system work but it doesn't mean that its a good system. I see it pointless in many ways. At first i saw it as a good thing. Swapping between melee and ranged getting abilities to compliment both weapons. Sounds good.

But what if you want to play a ranged character. Then i don't see why i must switch between two weapons. Why can't there be more slots? Everything has a cost anyway and there are other ways of balancing the system. Summons for example come with a penalty to magicka etc. You could use cooldowns too.

I use destruction staff and restoration staff and switch between them often. But there are people who use two identical destruction staffs. It's just stupid that you would have to do that because its the only way for more slots.

I haven't seen any real argument about how more slots could break the game. More abilities but still the same amount of mana/stamina to play with.

In truth the balance argument against one or two extra slots is really flimsy.I heard them talking about passive with per slotted skills which
Only NBs and DK have. NB get 3%crit per Assassination Skill slotted which is far OP or impossible to balance. DKs get some 5% increased health regen which is pretty inconsequential when they all have GDB.The other classes require one ability slotted to get the passive and usually everyone would have that ability slotted anyway. Adding one/two ability slots would give you one more attack or counter which can be balanced pretty easily by resources.

In the end the only good argument I heard was "I don't want to/can't stretch my fingers and I don't want to buy a mouse with thumb buttons",

Cogo wrote: »

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NK: It’s always five skills and one ultimate and then the potions of course - so seven abilities. But at level 15, you’ll unlock a second bar, which you can use with a different weapon. So if you wanted to use a restoration staff and healing abilities, you could swap to that and use those skills, or you could go for a melee weapon and a ranged weapon and alternate between them. There’s no cost to doing it, other than the time it takes to swap the weapon out. It starts to really allow you to experiment with different combinations of builds.

Source: http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/the_elder_scrolls_online_interview_everything_you_need_to_know_about_the_game.html

Please, keep discussing about something that never will or CAN happen......[/quote]

You baffle me, in no way does that statement imply that they can not change it nor does it tell it would break the game.

It simply states how it is designed at the moment of the interwiev and how it will be until chnages are made, or not made. This simply states the current system that was and is in place in the game.

Using word always is the same as it is now, until level cap and even after that, there will be always 5 slots and 1 ultimate unless they change it.

Thank you for posting that so i can clear it up to you, no need to thank

I'd love to have 1 more slot on every bar, but then again, it wouldn't be enough so I'd like 2 additional slots on each bar, forcing me to completely overhaul my controls, because 7 is already a button for which I need to move my hand, so I'd use SDFE instead of WASD, but then I'd be having so much free space, that I'd want again 2 additional slots, a.s.o.

Personally I think both, 5+1 and 6+1 would be ok. 5+1 forces one to prioritize even more, and that's a good thing actually.

I understand the wish for more slots, but I don't think anything would change, except that trades more versatility against easier movement. From the perspective of sheer power, both scenarios are on the same level imho, because me having only 5 slots, means that my enemy also has only 5 slots.