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All Hail EP Winners on Thornblade (EU)
æxæ
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While I am happy we won a campaign, finally, I am also quite sarcastic if I say "All Hail EP Winners" as this has been achieved by nightcapping during the past 10 days. Frankly, I was amused by (yea i know who they were) them night capping for our facton but now, it just gets old. In fact, it has discouraged me from playing pvp during the past week as I understand that AD and DC just stay away finding a red map every freaking day.
Please do not night cap the map on the next campaign, it's a campaign killer.
AD did this on Auriel's Bow and it was annoying now that we are constantly having
it on our side it is not less annoying. Please do not. Thank you very much!
P.S.: Some think it has been NA players capping on Thornblade EU at night, this is a false assumption as I know it's all players residing in the EU. Just saying.
Please do not night cap the map on the next campaign, it's a campaign killer.
AD did this on Auriel's Bow and it was annoying now that we are constantly having
it on our side it is not less annoying. Please do not. Thank you very much!
P.S.: Some think it has been NA players capping on Thornblade EU at night, this is a false assumption as I know it's all players residing in the EU. Just saying.
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭P.S.: Some think it has been NA players capping on Thornblade EU at night, this is a false assumption as I know it's all players residing in the EU. Just saying.
I am certain there are people in the EU who can afford to stay online during the whole night, for 10 days straight. You have students, unemployed, etc.
What i however find hard to believe is that, for some statistically impossible reason, they all decided to play on the same side. That's like diving your hand into a bag of mixed color beans, and coming up with a handful of all whites. Nope.
(you still get an awesome from me tho, for being a good sport
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david271749✭✭✭✭✭Because everybody lives in the same time zone, has the same scedule, and plays exactly when you do. Love the ignorance on this one.2 -
æxæ✭✭✭P.S.: Some think it has been NA players capping on Thornblade EU at night, this is a false assumption as I know it's all players residing in the EU. Just saying.
I am certain there are people in the EU who can afford to stay online during the whole night, for 10 days straight. You have students, unemployed, etc.
What i however find hard to believe is that, for some statistically impossible reason, they all decided to play on the same side. That's like diving your hand into a bag of mixed color beans, and coming up with a handful of all whites. Nope.
It is not a matter of them playing vs. 0 enemies. It is a matter of the EP raid being an organized TS group. We all know it takes at least another organized group to take out the opposing one. I am playing Thornblade EU and as I said I know who night caps there and they have a good raid going, would take one on the opposite faction to stop them but they deal with pugs. It is not like there are none on AD and DC side online. It is just low population for all factions during night time so for an organized group that doesn't have to deal with another organized group it's a fairly easy game. Not talking numbers, just to make sure.
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Skafsgaard✭✭✭✭I know what you mean OP, Sharee doesnt seem to have a clue.
Not about numbers, but organization means a lot especially night time when numbers get low.The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited supports hundreds of players on screen at once in an open world fight for control of Cyrodiil. Get ready for the most intense online PvP experience ever created, with The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited.
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It is not a matter of them playing vs. 0 enemies. It is a matter of the EP raid being an organized TS group.
Thornblade EU, 1AM CET, Monday morning, just as i had to log for the night:
http://imgur.com/TGiCul7
'matter of being organized' my behind.
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Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nightcapping is basically the only way to win campaigns. It happens in every single campaign and while inevitable in a game like this, it sure is soul-destroyingly boring to wake up to a uniformly coloured map each day.2 -
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It is not a matter of them playing vs. 0 enemies. It is a matter of the EP raid being an organized TS group.
Thornblade EU, 1AM CET, Monday morning, just as i had to log for the night:
http://imgur.com/TGiCul7
'matter of being organized' my behind.
sorry, but you're somewhat annoying. Greif has become emperor at 2.30 a.m CET. that is 1.5 hrs later than what you have shown above. At a weekday. Population during that time was LOW for all factions. AND YOU DO NOT PLAY THORNBLADE EU. Good lord.0 -
dcincali✭✭✭✭P.S.: Some think it has been NA players capping on Thornblade EU at night, this is a false assumption as I know it's all players residing in the EU. Just saying.
I am certain there are people in the EU who can afford to stay online during the whole night, for 10 days straight. You have students, unemployed, etc.
What i however find hard to believe is that, for some statistically impossible reason, they all decided to play on the same side. That's like diving your hand into a bag of mixed color beans, and coming up with a handful of all whites. Nope.
It is not a matter of them playing vs. 0 enemies. It is a matter of the EP raid being an organized TS group. We all know it takes at least another organized group to take out the opposing one. I am playing Thornblade EU and as I said I know who night caps there and they have a good raid going, would take one on the opposite faction to stop them but they deal with pugs. It is not like there are none on AD and DC side online. It is just low population for all factions during night time so for an organized group that doesn't have to deal with another organized group it's a fairly easy game. Not talking numbers, just to make sure.
No, seriously, its them VS door. When there are the 15 AD defenders there is an EP zerg 40+ strong. When the last guild leaves, the EP zerg just continues pveing the map instead of moving back to Thorn for a real fight.
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AND YOU DO NOT PLAY THORNBLADE EU.
Actually, yes, i do play thornblade EU.
Give me a @name and i'll send you a 'hello there' ingame mail if you don't believe me. [edit] or maybe this will do: http://imgur.com/sRhKq5c
(Also, cut out a good portion of sarcasm to make forums a more pleasant place.)Edited by Sharee on September 1, 2014 4:51PM0 -
Sad thing is we have more than one campaign beeing nightcapped by different factions.
So instead of all the nighttimeplayers fighting in one campaign, theyre looking for that campaign where there is no enemy with some players at night.
So we have groups in every faction killing the fun of many people.
This is so stupid. You log in in the morning.
Home campaign = blue ->boring
Guest campaign = yellow -> boring
Travel to guildmate in another campaign = red -> go to PvE
Maybe a solution is to have 1 campaign which counts as home for everybod between 2am and 7am CET while others are closed in that timeframe.1 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭Solution is simple: No guest campaigns.
People choose a home campaign and then if they want to change, simply stay as it is now where your AP resets.
Back on topic though, EP have only won through nighttime capping. Once 11pm BST/GMT or thereabouts comes around most of the DC guilds log out in numbers due to various RL commitments and/or sleep (can't vouch for AD). Every night if I stay a little later it's the same groups in 40+ zergs hitting keeps which are either absent from the campaign earlier in the evening or cannot go toe to toe with organised groups.
Hopefully next campaign there'll be more balanced night time action so the campaign feels more closely contested and every keep hard won or defended.
As for the OP, I congratulate you sir and appreciate your willingness to work with those in AD and DC in working towards a more fun campaign for all.The Legendary Nothing1 -
æxæ✭✭✭well, no need to congratulate me but thanks i just want a decent campaign. I thought the majority of ESO pvp players wanted this. Am i right?0
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✭✭✭✭✭Well if the DC and AD players who used to stop everyone night capping didn't run away it might have been different, remember the first week or two there was no night capping because there were active teams countering those online.
Also what do you want players who work shift hours to do? Just not bother playing PVP ever, take home keeps then log out and play another game?
You can't blame players who are active at night times for doing what they can to win, they want to create fights and content but no one is around to fight them.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
æxæ✭✭✭We need a solution like another post was suggesting, capping the population towards the lowest population to keep it fair, increase strength of guards and whatnot.1
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R0M2K✭✭✭✭The thing is: why not reset the campaign now? So we can start from 0 again... Ah ye, 2nd/3rd position....0 -
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This just penalises people who want to join their friends though, it's bad enough to try and get guild members into busy campaigns as it is without adding more reasons you can't play together.We need a solution like another post was suggesting, capping the population towards the lowest population to keep it fair, increase strength of guards and whatnot.
I understand peoples problems with the issues of night capping but I don't think adding more barriers or caps will solve the issues. For me personally the solution is to give people less campaigns to play on, this was we won't see what we have now (one campaign for each colour) and can get back to the fights lasting all day and night with even(ish) numbers.
The first week of Thornblade was a stalemate even until the early hours of the morning, however due to people being annoyed with the lag, trains and queues players from all sides started to move to other campaigns, it seems the DC and AD teams who were active in the night hours were amongst them.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭EP in Thornblade is like DC in Chillrend and AD in Haderus.
Master of the night shift.1 -
æxæ✭✭✭I understand peoples problems with the issues of night capping but I don't think adding more barriers or caps will solve the issues. For me personally the solution is to give people less campaigns to play on, this was we won't see what we have now (one campaign for each colour) and can get back to the fights lasting all day and night with even(ish) numbers.
The first week of Thornblade was a stalemate even until the early hours of the morning, however due to people being annoyed with the lag, trains and queues players from all sides started to move to other campaigns, it seems the DC and AD teams who were active in the night hours were amongst them.
Yea, I'd sign that. Fewer campaigns. We will always have at least 1 campaign
with a larger queue but as of now ppl can switch to a low pop campaign and I wouldn't want that to happen. I'd like 2 non-vet and 2 vet campaigns, nothing else.2 -
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✭but thats far too simplistic an answer. fewer campaigns mean mad queues at peak times. So in effect what your advocating is 2 hour ques at peak times cos you dont like nightcapping.
think about folk who can only play a few hours during peak time, they dont pay a sub to wait in a que every night.
i think that would be more of an issue than you not liking to lose a campaign cos of nightcapping. after all even if your faction is losing on a scoreboard you can still play.0 -
dcincali✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »EP in Thornblade is like DC in Chillrend and AD in Haderus.
Master of the night shift.
Haderus has no night crew, every once in a while we will see someone take a keep or scroll undefended and AD will go get it back. People just don't play there for the same reason no one goes to BOS. It's boring.0 -
æxæ✭✭✭i think that would be more of an issue than you not liking to lose a campaign cos of nightcapping. after all even if your faction is losing on a scoreboard you can still play.
Did you even read my initial post? "my" faction is winning due to nightcapping
and I don't like winning like that. I think having less campaigns would not avoid nightcapping but maybe force people to commit to one campaign and in fact, I really doubt we would have as high queues as they are at times in thornblade EU right now. My guess is it would be evenly spread on both campaigns because it wouldn't be free-for-all, thus no non-vets in that campaign, respectively no vets in non-vets. Get it now?Edited by æxæ on September 2, 2014 3:36PM0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I bet this thread will have the same comments as the Thornblade NA thread had for AD winning it.
Oh... I was late a bit
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✭Lava_Croft wrote: »EP in Thornblade is like DC in Chillrend and AD in Haderus.
Master of the night shift.
Haderus has no night crew, every once in a while we will see someone take a keep or scroll undefended and AD will go get it back. People just don't play there for the same reason no one goes to BOS. It's boring.
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LunaRae✭✭✭✭EP is winning something, somewhere? I don't believe it.Stands-Strong-As-Snow ~ Argonian Templar DC NA V14
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✭i think that would be more of an issue than you not liking to lose a campaign cos of nightcapping. after all even if your faction is losing on a scoreboard you can still play.
Did you even read my initial post? "my" faction is winning due to nightcapping
and I don't like winning like that. I think having less campaigns would not avoid nightcapping but maybe force people to commit to one campaign and in fact, I really doubt we would have as high queues as they are at times in thornblade EU right now. My guess is it would be evenly spread on both campaigns because it wouldn't be free-for-all, thus no non-vets in that campaign, respectively no vets in non-vets. Get it now?
i understood what you were saying , i just completely disagree , get it now?
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Maylinh✭✭✭Unfortunatly we 'won' by nightcapping. Also unfortunate is that I left the campaign because of this and went guesting on 7 days. It gave an old AB feeling
Ive been ranting in zone chat many times about this nightcapping. No more early morning small scale PvP. No more hours and hours of trying to get Arrius back etc. (I know, i am not very tactical with my words if my gameplay is getting ruined, im sorry for all who got offended
) When I said something about this, i got the answer: "you dont know anything about tactics in a campaign, go **** *** to another campaign, this is how it suppose to be" and so on and so on.
In my opinion, not having PvP in a PvP zone, is NOT how it is suppose to be. Having PvP between 5 pm and 10 pm, is a nothing if the campaign is open 24/7.
I really hope for the sake of ESO PvP they will fix this. Maybe make it so, that during night time the point gaining is less for having objectives, scrolls, etc.EP| Maylin - Templar v16 - Ava 32
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