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Vampire Player Poll pt 1

MornaBaine
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Do you wish there were a way fro your vampire to maintain the Stage One APPEARANCE for longer than 20 minutes?
Edited by MornaBaine on August 29, 2014 3:57PM
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Vampire Player Poll pt 1 183 votes

Yes.
51%
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No.
48%
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  • MornaBaine
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    Yes.
    As a roleplayer I find having my vampire turn completely hideous every 20 minutes to be really annoying. I would gladly spend a skill point to be able to maintain the APPEARANCE of stage one for a full hour even if the mechanics moved forward and my vampire took the disads of the other stages on the usual schedule.
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  • ItsMeToo
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    Yes.
    I think 21 minutes would be great. LOL

    I stay at stage 4, because I look sooooo cute at stage 4. LOL
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  • bluesodafizz
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    I would use a skill point to keep my stage 4 appearance. I like the "hideous" look on my Argonian.
  • nerevarine1138
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    No.
    If anything, I'd like more social consequences for being a vampire, which could be accompanied by a longer time in the earlier stages to avoid constant feeding.

    But being a Stage 4 vampire should carry consequences. You should look ugly. You should be shunned by society at large. You should not be able to enter a town of normal without being attacked by angry mobs (although I appreciate that this would be almost unthinkable in an MMO, so I'll settle for vendors refusing to do business with you). Right now, there's no reason to not be a Stage 4 vampire, so if the appearance gives at least some players a little pause, I'll take it.
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  • zdkazz
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    No.
    your a vampire, an ugly unholy monster that preys appon the innocent of the world, get used to it, and may i remind you,
    "coheart with the deadra and the vigil will hunt you"
    and seing as vamps are molag bals creation...
  • andre.roques.3b14_ESO
    I agree there should be more social consequences, but I think the duration of the stages seems a bit truncated. I'd prefer the consequences but something like a day between each stage.
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  • zdkazz
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    No.
    If anything, I'd like more social consequences for being a vampire, which could be accompanied by a longer time in the earlier stages to avoid constant feeding.

    But being a Stage 4 vampire should carry consequences. You should look ugly. You should be shunned by society at large. You should not be able to enter a town of normal without being attacked by angry mobs (although I appreciate that this would be almost unthinkable in an MMO, so I'll settle for vendors refusing to do business with you). Right now, there's no reason to not be a Stage 4 vampire, so if the appearance gives at least some players a little pause, I'll take it.
    this^^

  • zdkazz
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    No.
    I think max stage vamps should be flagged for pvp at all times even in pve world, there are to many advantages to being a vamp and no real downsides, twilights set and vamp super sneak anyone?
  • JessieColt
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    Until, and unless, they stick an avatars face on the back of their head so that I, the player, have to look at it, then I personally do not care what my Vampire looks like at each various stage.

    If others have a problem with how he looks, then they can turn away :)

  • MornaBaine
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    Yes.
    If anything, I'd like more social consequences for being a vampire, which could be accompanied by a longer time in the earlier stages to avoid constant feeding.

    But being a Stage 4 vampire should carry consequences. You should look ugly. You should be shunned by society at large. You should not be able to enter a town of normal without being attacked by angry mobs (although I appreciate that this would be almost unthinkable in an MMO, so I'll settle for vendors refusing to do business with you). Right now, there's no reason to not be a Stage 4 vampire, so if the appearance gives at least some players a little pause, I'll take it.

    Well, when I say "longer than 20 minutes" I'd frankly be happy with just a full hour like the other stages. "Longer than 20 minutes" does NOT mean "indefinitely." The mechanics could (and should) still move forward. And by stage 3 and 4 guards should be attacking you and townspeople should be screaming and fleeing in terror. However, even if you COULD look like a stage 1 vamp indefinitely, by stages 3 and 4 you should be putting off such an awful "WRONG!" vibe that people would still KNOW you were a monster instinctively and react accordingly. I don't want to make it EASIER to play a vamp...I want to make it more FUN...which IS harder in some cases!
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  • MornaBaine
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    Yes.
    I also kinda feel like werewolves should transform into their werewolf state automatically on the full moon. After all, that would be both lore appropriate AND fair.
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  • Soloeus
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    No.
    Your appearance is how I identify you.

    Leave it as is.

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  • zdkazz
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    No.
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    If anything, I'd like more social consequences for being a vampire, which could be accompanied by a longer time in the earlier stages to avoid constant feeding.

    But being a Stage 4 vampire should carry consequences. You should look ugly. You should be shunned by society at large. You should not be able to enter a town of normal without being attacked by angry mobs (although I appreciate that this would be almost unthinkable in an MMO, so I'll settle for vendors refusing to do business with you). Right now, there's no reason to not be a Stage 4 vampire, so if the appearance gives at least some players a little pause, I'll take it.

    Well, when I say "longer than 20 minutes" I'd frankly be happy with just a full hour like the other stages. "Longer than 20 minutes" does NOT mean "indefinitely." The mechanics could (and should) still move forward. And by stage 3 and 4 guards should be attacking you and townspeople should be screaming and fleeing in terror. However, even if you COULD look like a stage 1 vamp indefinitely, by stages 3 and 4 you should be putting off such an awful "WRONG!" vibe that people would still KNOW you were a monster instinctively and react accordingly. I don't want to make it EASIER to play a vamp...I want to make it more FUN...which IS harder in some cases!
    that would be cool, some vinders however should stay(few and far between so we dont shut them out entirely in daggerfall the shady merchants would still deal with you even if you were a vamp) this should also happen for werewolfs if they change in town they are hunted down by gaurds
  • MornaBaine
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    Yes.
    Soloeus wrote: »
    Your appearance is how I identify you.

    Leave it as is.

    But why should you have that automatic advantage? As to game mechanics, the vampire skill line is the same as any other. You don't get to know what build a mage or NB is using until you experience it in combat. Yet with a vamp, you automatically know to whip out the fire damage. How is that fair?
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  • kieso
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    Yes.
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Soloeus wrote: »
    Your appearance is how I identify you.

    Leave it as is.

    But why should you have that automatic advantage? As to game mechanics, the vampire skill line is the same as any other. You don't get to know what build a mage or NB is using until you experience it in combat. Yet with a vamp, you automatically know to whip out the fire damage. How is that fair?

    Can you just wear a helmet?
  • MornaBaine
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    Yes.
    kieso wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Soloeus wrote: »
    Your appearance is how I identify you.

    Leave it as is.

    But why should you have that automatic advantage? As to game mechanics, the vampire skill line is the same as any other. You don't get to know what build a mage or NB is using until you experience it in combat. Yet with a vamp, you automatically know to whip out the fire damage. How is that fair?

    Can you just wear a helmet?

    Not if the helmet I need to use does not completely cover the face.
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  • Sord
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    I think and seems reasonable that in all most lore of vampires that they only need to feed once a day and if they don't they are weakened. I think it is kind of crazy that every 30 minutes one has to feed, it should be once every 3 hours and maybe accelerated during the game day time. Just a thought.
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  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    If anything, I'd like more social consequences for being a vampire, which could be accompanied by a longer time in the earlier stages to avoid constant feeding.

    But being a Stage 4 vampire should carry consequences. You should look ugly. You should be shunned by society at large. You should not be able to enter a town of normal without being attacked by angry mobs (although I appreciate that this would be almost unthinkable in an MMO, so I'll settle for vendors refusing to do business with you). Right now, there's no reason to not be a Stage 4 vampire, so if the appearance gives at least some players a little pause, I'll take it.
    There should be consequences and you should be KOS to guards if you are at stage 4. It would be cool if they implemented that in the justice system.
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  • MornaBaine
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    Yes.
    If anything, I'd like more social consequences for being a vampire, which could be accompanied by a longer time in the earlier stages to avoid constant feeding.

    But being a Stage 4 vampire should carry consequences. You should look ugly. You should be shunned by society at large. You should not be able to enter a town of normal without being attacked by angry mobs (although I appreciate that this would be almost unthinkable in an MMO, so I'll settle for vendors refusing to do business with you). Right now, there's no reason to not be a Stage 4 vampire, so if the appearance gives at least some players a little pause, I'll take it.
    There should be consequences and you should be KOS to guards if you are at stage 4. It would be cool if they implemented that in the justice system.

    I totally hope they do this kind of thing in the future. Stage 4 vamps SHOULD have the guards out after them and stage 3 should at LEAST have people acting VERY WARY around them. Maybe the guards would even warn them to get the heck outta town. LOL But either Stage1 itself needs to last a full hour OR the *appearance* of Stage 1 should have an option for you to have it "stay up" through stage 2 and 3.
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  • aipex8_ESO
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    Yes.
    As a vamp that tries to remain stage 1, yes! I would love longer stages. I would prefer full day stages, but even doubling the current time would be sufficient. I also agree that stage 4 should incur a bounty when the justice system comes out.
  • Vizier
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    Yes.
    Shouldn't have to feed to maintain stage one every 20 minutes. Make it once a day, once every couple days and have the stages rollover every 24 hours after. Makes the most sense to me. If a person prefers stage 1 they are constantly needing to feed and that's just a PITA if you ask me.
  • Teiji
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    Yes.
    Costume / Item - "Vampires guile" [name subject to change]

    This item is only usable by vampires, upon use, said item hides the appearance of vampirism through clever use of magicka, specifically of the illusion school equation, so that vampires may better blend into society, walk among the living and even in some cases, lead normal lives.

    In some rare circumstances, this may lead to role-play with vampires where the vampires are not immediately acknowledged as the undead, as opposed to currently where they are acknowledged as vampires from over 100 view distance range.
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  • dsalter
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    Yes.
    all stages in my opinion should be 1 hour to 2 hours. it's a chore to keep stage one up in cyrodiil
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  • Drazhar14
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    No.
    Um... keep feeding to maintain your "humanness".

    Also, npc's should react when you are in stage 4.
  • Elf_Boy
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    No.
    We all choose to become a vampire, right? Even if we get bit by the right random mob, we choose to be cured or not be cured, to do the quest or not do the quest.

    This is just one consequence of being a vampire. You get the nifty bonus to fire damage taken, and, you get the scary, scarier, scariest and OMG it's going to eat me look.

    We get a few paltry buffs too, right?

    It seems to me RP would be about dealing with the affliction, any RPG's I've played, pen and paper or otherwise you dealt with your choices and afflictions.
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  • Teiji
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    Yes.
    Elf_Boy wrote: »
    It seems to me RP would be about dealing with the affliction, any RPG's I've played, pen and paper or otherwise you dealt with your choices and afflictions.

    A great post.

    Within the fantasy universe of Elder Scrolls, there are various schools of magic, one such school is the Illusion school of magic.

    This is further evidenced that it exists, through quests within The Elder Scrolls Online where your character and in some instances, NPC's will be subject to magicka which has altered their appearance, in some cases this is subtle whilst others, extreme.

    In order to better role-play the choices of our character(s), good and bad. We should be provided with simple tools, which definitely exist within the Elder Scrolls universe. A costume or item for vampires, which allows their prowess of the illusion magic to be evident by appearing as if they are not of the infinitely beautiful undead.
    Edited by Teiji on August 30, 2014 4:49PM
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  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    No.
    I honestly don't care cause i love killing vamps. But, they could easily just add another passive skill locking your appearance at level 1 but that could possibly be OP in PvP due to the fact that vamp hunters will have a harder time scouting you out.
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Yes.
    I suppose it's just one of the downsides.

    It makes me sad though, besides being hideous, my eyes are no longer blue, and my calico pattern is barely visible.

    God forbid I strip, the bright white my fur has become is blinding.

    Another thing, I am wearing a breton light helm right now, it has a face mask. (Which helps cover up the ugly thing) my fangs actually stick out from beneath the veil. wtf
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  • TheRealDoc
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    Yes.
    I would use a skill point to keep my stage 4 appearance. I like the "hideous" look on my Argonian.

    But having a big white tail sticking out of your armour looks weird!

    We need tail armour/dye! :)

  • MercyKilling
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    No.
    Teiji wrote: »

    In order to better role-play the choices of our character(s), good and bad. We should be provided with simple tools, which definitely exist within the Elder Scrolls universe. A costume or item for vampires, which allows their prowess of the illusion magic to be evident by appearing as if they are not of the infinitely beautiful undead.

    And while this is a perfectly plausible reason to have such an item/ability......when every single player uses it it becomes not so plausible. What, every single vampire has some kind of illusion skill? I think not.

    It's rather like everyone and their brother being a vampire in the first place, regardless of RP reasons or just "gotta have the best" uber leet reasons. Those players have already figured out a way to almost completely nullify the weakness to fire...and now some want to get rid of the cosmetic drawbacks?

    No. I don't care what reasons or logic you come up with...it's still no. Matter of fact, there needs to be more drawbacks to being a monster.
    I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
    1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
    2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
    3) Difficulty slider.
    4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
    Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.
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