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Grinder's kill MMO's, do you agree, what should be done about this?

HeroStomp13
In my opinion the term "grinding" has been the sole reason why I avoid MMO's, it is too easy for player's to take advantage of the game's mechanics by continuously doing minute tasks that have nothing to do with the over all role playing aspect of the game. It are people like this that make MMO's less enjoyable for the newer player's by taking advantage of their lack of knowledge of the game mechanics.
Edited by HeroStomp13 on August 29, 2014 8:54PM
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Grinder's kill MMO's, do you agree, what should be done about this? 73 votes

Grinder's need to be stopped.
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JandoxaraanGhenrakrimPudinHortator Indoril NerevarColumbaSestarCodyHeroStomp13 10 votes
Grinding is just part of the game.
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MMO's aren't for role players.
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ArcanusMagusPBpsy 2 votes
There is nothing you can do about grinder's.
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  • Arkath
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    No vote, because the following options aren't available:
    • Who cares how other players choose to level? Forget it and move on.
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  • Pseudonym
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    Let people play how they want to. They're not ruining anything for you. You stick to your quests and they'll stick to killing monsters over and over.

    As for the roleplaying aspect, I see nothing out of place with warriors killing monsters.
  • Ziz
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    Questers, first person view users, puppy lovers and cookie eaters ruin more games than all the grinders of the world combined.
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    There is nothing you can do about grinder's.
    What does this have to do with PVP?
  • Pseudonym
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    Ziz wrote: »
    Cookie eaters ruin more games than all the grinders of the world combined.

    Those Monsters...
  • HeroStomp13
    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    How about the fact that when a new player join's the "PVP" they immediately get slaughtered because they don't know what they are doing? Grinding is part of the game but it should not be the ONLY part of the game. That's my only point, when you have player's staying in the lower level area's until they are forced to leave is not the way this game should be run. That right there ruin's this entire game for me, I am an avid MMO player and my favorite aspect of all MMO's has been the ROLE PLAYING aspect of the game, simple as that. If you want to grind until you can beat the turd out of any player who opposes you then you should be playing an FPSMMO, not a RPMMMO, there is a huge difference.
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  • Dekkameron
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    If that's how they want to play, so be it. Not for me though. I'd go mental.
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  • FluffiestOne
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    Grinding is just how some people like to play the game, personally I grind my characters to max level then do all the quests, I enjoy them but they are **** for leveling. It's just easier and more fun to do enjoy the plot but have ease.
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
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    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on September 1, 2014 7:14PM
  • seanolan
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    Why the frak does anyone give two pieces of orc dung how someone levels? How does it even affect any other player?
  • Lava_Croft
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    I want to vote for "You obviously chose the wrong type of game.".
  • krim
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    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    How about the fact that when a new player join's the "PVP" they immediately get slaughtered because they don't know what they are doing? Grinding is part of the game but it should not be the ONLY part of the game. That's my only point, when you have player's staying in the lower level area's until they are forced to leave is not the way this game should be run. That right there ruin's this entire game for me, I am an avid MMO player and my favorite aspect of all MMO's has been the ROLE PLAYING aspect of the game, simple as that. If you want to grind until you can beat the turd out of any player who opposes you then you should be playing an FPSMMO, not a RPMMMO, there is a huge difference.

    Alacrity is a role play only guild if your interested.

  • HeroStomp13
    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    I bought this game and started to play it for the "role playing" in it, not so that I can get my a** handed to me when I want to do PVP. I personally would do ALL of the PVE quests if I knew that way wasn't going to take forever to actually level cap. That is not the point of this thread. I don't care what level you are or aren't. Player's are slaughtering newer player's because they have VR only gear. At this point playing PVP is like walking into a death trap, good for leveling but *** for my character. I enjoy role playing games because they are ROLE PLAYING as in you are supposed to BE THE CHARACTER, not just slaughter nooblets in an attempt to get the better gear. It's in my opinion distasteful and ruins the gaming environment as a whole for me. You can say that I choose the wrong game but I would beg the differ, this is an ELDER SCROLLS game and I enjoy the ELDER SCROLLS lore. I typically stay away from MMO's for exactly this reason, you can't have a true RPMMO withouth the role playing.
    May the Night Mother watch over you.
    I was one of the original "HeroStomp"s my number is 13
  • rsciw
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    Don't enter cyro until you're VR12 (or soon-to-be VR14) then?

    The reasons you bought the game are utterly irrelevant to everyone else who bought their copy of the game for whatever reasons they had (and their reasons should be equally utterly irrelevant to you). If you bought it for RP-reasons, be happy, but don't even for a split-second think that because you bought and play it for RP-reasons, that everyone else should conform to your reasons and playstyle.

    RP can be a part of it, that's up to you, but it should under no circumstances be enforced on everyone.

    If it's just PvP that ruins your whole gaming environment for you, simple solution -> don't PvP.
  • Columba
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    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    The problem is when grinders whine for more uber gear that requires more grinding by everyone.
  • Aldarenn
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    There is nothing you can do about grinder's.
    Going through entire questlines you're familiar with and just want to get straight to the content you want is your choice. Sometimes, I grind my skills too.
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  • HeroStomp13
    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    That may be true, I am by no means trying to make other people play the way I do. I love the PVP aspect of it, but when you have people grinding for VR gear, then demanding better VR gear, that's where I have the problem. The PVP system is supposed to "level the playing field" but with all these VR gear's running around it's hard to do that.
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  • krim
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    Grinder's need to be stopped.


    That may be true, I am by no means trying to make other people play the way I do. I love the PVP aspect of it, but when you have people grinding for VR gear, then demanding better VR gear, that's where I have the problem. The PVP system is supposed to "level the playing field" but with all these VR gear's running around it's hard to do that.

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  • Avidus
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    There is nothing you can do about grinder's.
    There is one way to stop grinders..
    Let them grind..

    Some people grind through content like crazy, simply because enjoy the game.
    They should not be punished.

    Others rush through to experience all the content, run themselves out of things to do and then move to the next game.
  • Rune_Relic
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    Are you talking about grinding PVE monsters or grinding PVP kills ?
    If its PVE grinding then I really don't care.
    If you mean Noob farming just to level in PVP....well yeah I am sure it is annoying to noobs (I will be one at some point)...but its PVP. You aren't going there to make friends really ???
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    Grinders are just other players.

    Personally i would rather see RP players gone than grinders. Mostly cause grinders dont come and whine each 5 mins about good features that break immersion and so on.

    With that said , we really dont have a right to do anything against either.
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  • HeroStomp13
    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    I'm mainly referring to the PVP skills, not the PVP in general. I enjoy the PVP system as much as I enjoy the PVE system. I just can't play the PVP because I have only been playing for a few day's. The PC isn't even my platform of choice, just the one I am left with until the console release. You can call me a noob all you want but we all start somewhere and going around to the lower level PVE place's to "farm noobs" is the only thing I am against.
    May the Night Mother watch over you.
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  • pantaro30
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    I know how i get when people try and tell me how to play so play how you want i say. other peoples business is none of my business!
  • FluffiestOne
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    you cant stop people from grinding
    Edited by FluffiestOne on August 30, 2014 8:21PM
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
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    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on September 1, 2014 7:14PM
  • HeroStomp13
    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    I am just frustrated at going into a dungeon to do a quest only to find no mobs in site and a level 40+ running through it, this is probably the reason it is taking so long to implement the "justice system" because how are you supposed to penalize players for playing the way they like. You can't at the moment, however if we had the Dark Brotherhood, then you could just send a hit squad on the player's you don't like or the player's that have offended you. I am not trying to get people to stop grinding, it's a very essential part of an MMO, but is it fair for level 40+ to be grinding the starting area's and leaving no mob's for the other newer players?
    May the Night Mother watch over you.
    I was one of the original "HeroStomp"s my number is 13
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
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    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on September 1, 2014 7:15PM
  • HeroStomp13
    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    I understand, it's just frustrating for me only having a little over 20+ hours logged on. I honestly didn't notice the "quest level" until I was doing level 15 quest's at level 10. I am enjoying the game thoroughly however despite the challenges, I just wanted to get a feel for the PVP environment and it looks like I can't do anything until I at least get past level 15. Going in before that has proven to be suicide on my part, as I don't know the skill tree's or the build type's. I just play the way I want to play and that's that.
    May the Night Mother watch over you.
    I was one of the original "HeroStomp"s my number is 13
  • Cody
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    Grinder's need to be stopped.
    I think the craglorn grinding is out of control, and should be stopped, and is why I picked the "Stop grinding" option, but that's it. would have appreciated a "im in the middle" choice:)
  • ThyIronFist
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    Grinding is just part of the game.
    If you dislike grinding then MMO's are not your type of game.
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