SuraklinPrime wrote: »

I do all 6 crafts and keep stock of everything I need in my bank (200 spaces). My character has 110 bag spaces.

I do not use alts as mules but I do have a horse that is fully carry space oriented to minimise trips back to base.

I do not find space or inventory management to be a problem or a burden in terms of time.

I do wish you could keep trophies, costumes and pets in a separate space as I have been forced to get rid of most of them to allow space to be efficient.

You just contradicted yourself right there. You don't feel inventory is a problem, yet you delete all your "fun" items like trophies and costumes.

You feel the need to delete them because of the limited inventory space. You just proved the point most people are trying to make.

I would prefer separate banks for each character, but I will take increased capacity at a lower price. As I do a lot of crafting the bank micromanagement is getting old fast.

In the first week of the game i asked all my friends (who all have quit now) To invite each other to different guilds just so we could have a guild of 500slots to ourselves for extra space. I lvled every crafting skill to 50 and i have a little over 600 slots. I still run out of room from having extra gear and what not.

At least for me the banking system the game started with and the number of characters permitted was quickly consumed by 1 crafting alt and 5 storage alts, 1 per profession of the only character that I actually played to Vet 10. Being able to segregate items intentionally saved for future research was the initial driver of the alt # 3 & #4. I have no idea how much burden on the server all of the logging on and off this causes, but it probably is not good. Regardless of whatever I may be (casual, stupid, solo player, etc.) I know many others in the same situation. It simply can't be good business if the developers want people to play multiple characters and enjoy the game to the fullest extent however that particular type of player is capable of.

sotonin wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

I do all 6 crafts and keep stock of everything I need in my bank (200 spaces). My character has 110 bag spaces.

I do not use alts as mules but I do have a horse that is fully carry space oriented to minimise trips back to base.

I do not find space or inventory management to be a problem or a burden in terms of time.

I do wish you could keep trophies, costumes and pets in a separate space as I have been forced to get rid of most of them to allow space to be efficient.

You just contradicted yourself right there. You don't feel inventory is a problem, yet you delete all your "fun" items like trophies and costumes.

You feel the need to delete them because of the limited inventory space. You just proved the point most people are trying to make.

No, I do not find it to be a 'problem' and deleting useless items does not anger me or make me dislike the game.

But in a perfect world there would be a 'bling bank' alongside the more than adequate functional bank.

1. If Mules exist then the bank is not always providing enough space.
2. Mules exist
Conclusion. The bank is not always providing enough space.

sotonin wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

I do all 6 crafts and keep stock of everything I need in my bank (200 spaces). My character has 110 bag spaces.

I do not use alts as mules but I do have a horse that is fully carry space oriented to minimise trips back to base.

I do not find space or inventory management to be a problem or a burden in terms of time.

I do wish you could keep trophies, costumes and pets in a separate space as I have been forced to get rid of most of them to allow space to be efficient.

You just contradicted yourself right there. You don't feel inventory is a problem, yet you delete all your "fun" items like trophies and costumes.

You feel the need to delete them because of the limited inventory space. You just proved the point most people are trying to make.

Ok, then I'll take his place.

I have no mules. 2 characters that handle all the different crafting options in the game. My bank is 180 slots, and it contains:

700 Shadowhide
700 Voidstone Ingot
700 Voidcloth
A stack of every Essence rune
A stack of every Potency rune for level 7 and up
A stack of every Aspect rune
A stack of every rare provisioning ingredient
Multiple stacks of green tempers for each craft
Multiple stacks of blue tempers for each craft
A stack of purple tempers for each craft
A stack of yellow tempers for each craft
A stack of every style material
A stack of every trait material
Every trophy in the game
And about 20-or-so items for research

I don't use packhorse upgrades, and when my inventory is cleaned out, my main and my alt both have it at around 29-35/111.

So I don't know what the rest of you are doing, but there's ample bank space if you don't hold on to every loose bit of thread you find in the game. And if you do, that's fine, but don't say the bank is poorly designed because you refuse to throw things out.

Nestor wrote: »

So, basically, your only crafting for one character. Your limited in what you need as you limit who your crafting for.

Try being able to craft for a any character that is L3 to L50/VR1 to VR12
Try being a provisioner that makes food items for all levels of characters in the 3 alliances
Try being able to create Runes for all levels of characters
Etc Etc Etc

Don't say the Bank space works for crafters if you have spent a 500,000 gold on bag space and you still have to limit yourself to what you can craft.

Also, a solution that costs 500,000 or 768,500 gold is not a solution. If I had that much gold, I would not need to craft. I could buy what I needed and for sure would not have to make anything.

As I mentioned, I have a character and an alt, but you're right, I'm not crafting items of all types at all levels in all Alliance varieties (nor do I understand why you'd need to, but to each their own). If I get a lower-level crafting order, or if I need to craft for my alt, I just get the materials I need at that time.

I'm curious on what people are getting rid of that they might need later?

sotonin wrote: »

and still no zos response.

Maybe they have a hard limit policy on the number of times they respond to the same stupid duplicate thread subject.

Talrenos wrote: »

Consider the flaws:
1. Account wide banks force characters to combine items when not all characters can even use all items.
2. Some crafting skills have non-progression materials, alchemy, provisioning, enchantment. Thus you need to stock and store every mat you find for those, causing an abnormal amount of bank space to be filled.
3. There is good number of 'junk' items the game gives you that take up valuable space. (pets, trophies, CE maps, etc.)
4. The created need to collect weapons/armor for future deconstruct and/or research was not considered.

ZOS did give us a large amount of bank/backpack room, but as everyone knows, its simply not enough or realistic. This poll offers several solutions to the issue.

This is my opinion on this...

1. Account wide bank actually good to move items between characters of the same account, since no direct email available. The problem you're saying there on point #1 isn't really a problem with the system itself, but more of a problem with players own bank space management.

2. It's true that to stock all kind of crafting materials, we need more spaces. However, at the least we can manage it better by making priorities. For example, i only use bank to stock hard to get crafting materials like trait mats and racial motif mats. I prioritized those items because those items doesn't used as often as other mats, while i still need them highly for my crafting. Priority is the key.

3. The same as above, priority is the key. things such as pets and trophies are basically collectibles. Though it is nice to have collectibles no taking up bank spaces, when it's actually took spaces it's left up to the effectiveness our stock management, and we got to accept that such is the downside of collecting things. In this game though, there's a way to stock collectables without taking bank spot...use email system to send it to your friend and have them return it back to you. As long as you don't take the item of the email attachment, it will stay there taking up no spaces.

4. Again, the power of stock management and/or email return to sender system available for us.


That all to say, i still think it's great to have more spaces nontheless.