This is unnecessary, and honestly PUGs are already a blight (and I swear they are more prevalent in AD.)

I kind of hate being led around by other people so I don't generally run with a group unless someone invites me for whatever reason.

Here's what I do...

Turn on zone and yell (they are normally off.)

Look at the map.

If where I need to be is not obvious, ask in zone.

Head to where I need to be.

If there is no camp and other people are sieging, I set up a new camp.

If there is not enough siege, I set up siege.

If there is enough siege, I use siege shield on one of the current siege.

When the keep is breached I run in when others do popping cleanse as we run under the oil pots.

Kill people that are in the way or are trying to escape/sabotage things.

If I am defending, I set up an oil pot at the end of the walkway where the breach is if there is room and if the wall will fall soon and man that.

Rinse/repeat for the inner keep.

Repair walls and doors when everything is done, and set up camps periodically in between that if they are requested.

Also, sometimes during defense I will jump off the wall while stealthed and light siege on fire until they are all burning or I am dead, (usually the latter.)

None of this requires a group, and unless the group is actually well organized, I do better without it.

Don't get me wrong, there are times when you need that group chat. For example, if the group is stealth sieging and attacking the inner and outer wall at the same time before dropping the outer wall to 50. That's usually fairly obvious, but if they are showing signs of that kind of organization, I ask to join the group.

Selique wrote: »

One issue with zone is, low level alts spying on the enemy faction. Sometimes we set up a siege group, and hold the attack while we collect FC's and siege weapons, and discuss the tactics. Doesn't do us any good to say what we're doing in zone for the other players to see (Who will then hop to an alt and gather their own forces to repel us). As mentioned in the post above. Stealth Sieging.

Usually TS and Group are the way to go.

right but the people involved in those are usually in the same guild or know each other, (which assures a lack of spies) and are not PUGs.

None of the PUGs I've been in have really provided any more information than zone does. If anything, they just provided a leader who shouldn't be leading anything.

Really, you should have to pick one pvp faction per account. Any characters you have of that faction can be on any campaign, but the current situation is just stupid.

We regularly have people in zone that make no secret that they are spying on us, or we will have people log in alts just to talk trash.

Completely classless and in very poor spirit.

Not to mention the troll forward camps that no one seems to get punished for ever.

All other characters in different factions should get the 2 free skillpoints when they reach level 10 and that's it.