No. Everyone who is not an emperor should have no (former) emperor bonuses at all.

5% sounds huge when I dont have it...

oh and Ill take that regen passive as well, tyvm

Exactly the opposite they need to do a complete wipe of players with emp status and the passives and rework the Emperor role entirely. Have only the 'winning' emperor of a given campaign be awarded with "Former Emperor" status, and everyone else gets a gag title to reflect their unworthiness. Emperor and associated buffs should only be earned and belong to people skilled enough and committed not only do their campaign but their faction as well. Most of the players who earned it legitimately either are themselves sickened of it or have stopped playing entirely. The passives should not feel as if they're required. Hence they need to make Emperor more of a leader/diplomat rather than a 1 man army.

Everyone who gained emperor before the new campaigns should have it removed.

Don't know whether this is the right thread for my idea, so sorry if it's the wrong one.

Although I may receive death toll by my (and all other [former] empreror). I think the Emperor buff for the whole faction is enough. Instead I'd like to have a "General" -for all factions, who has the possibility to coordinate raids on the map via "General tool".

He can be elected by players of his faction for 1 term (e.g. 3 days). Due to this election, also people with not that much time (which is the indicating point to become an emperor) can prove themselves (or fail ^^).

This tool gives him the opportunity to see all group leaders and set marks on the map for them (and only for group leader) where to attack/defend.

So he won't be a one man army, can make something happen due to his "experinece" and if his tactics are successful, he'll stay in charge.

IKilled007 wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Everyone who gained emperor before the new campaigns should have it removed.

Everyone who has more gold than me should have it removed.

If it was achieved by dubious methods, I agree with you.

I'm not clear on why there are former emperor passives at all. Provide the title; keep the passives for the emperor and make it appealing to try and hold the position.

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Everyone who gained emperor before the new campaigns should have it removed.

I suppose you didn't gain emperor before the new campaigns.

Some people held it for 90 days and should be rewarded. I don't think you realise the dedication and effort that takes.

IKilled007 wrote: »

If it was achieved by dubious methods, I agree with you.

Let's just give you a shiny button and let you decide what dubious methods are and can pick and choose who gets them - I'm guessing all your friends?


At the end of the day, the game mechanic is and/or was broken and there isn't much that can be done about it without judging each on a case by case basis.

Legitimate former emperors should be rewarded - FACT.

Unless ZoS can definitively prove people earned it un-legitimately or people confess, you're just going to have to live with the situation.

Who really is going to say; "I earned my emperor-ship by dubious methods, please remove my passives" ?!

Or they can just do a account-wide wipe and start with a clean slate. I can count on one hand the people I know personally who got it legitimately, i.e. fighting balls to the walls to capture inner ring and hold it for several days.

I can run out of fingers, teeth, and toes counting how many got it in unscrupulous methods such as colluding with opposing factions, sabotaging any efforts at defense, and leaving keeps totally undefended and walls broken in order to make it easier for keeps to be flipped.

I'm fairly certain alot of 'honest' emps can agree that its lost its value, and if they do a purge and remove emp from everyone who has it, those who are truly deserving of it will earn it again by being the best on their server, not because they and their cronies know how to flip keeps in 30 minutes or less.

And yes take everyone's gold. We'll just earn more because honest people KNOW HOW TO WORK FOR IT.

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Everyone who gained emperor before the new campaigns should have it removed.

The fact someone gained it before or after new campaigns doesn't mean anything in terms of legitimacy. I've seen emperor farming since day one. I also seen legit and true emperors after campaign changes.

My definition of a legit emperor is someone that didn't have the crown given to them. By that I mean no multiple guild mates and accomplices abdicating and re-setting their points, so that everyone in cahoots can get free buffs. No agreements with opposing factions in terms of keep defending. Than of course no cheating by systematically abusing broken combat mechanics and bugs.

I know maybe 5-6 emperors that got their title without using any of those opportunist moves. That's really not a lot considering I played since beta lol.

Still, It's not possible for ZoS to study data logs over thousands of players, than determine objectively who deserves these minuscule buffs. I honestly think they will make emperors buffs more obsolete in near future, while adding and buffing PvP perks based on personal achievements. That's the only rational way to deal with it anyway, without pissing people of.

I mean what I wrote. I don't care if one character in a campaign has whatever superpowers ZOS deems fit for the post. It doesn't matter whether farmer or not, the idea of awarding a permanent boon for something so easily exploitable is flawed. The fact that 99% of former emperors were rewarded for blatantly exploiting broken mechanic only made the flaw more apparent.

IKilled007 wrote: »

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Everyone who gained emperor before the new campaigns should have it removed.

Everyone who has more gold than me should have it removed.

Gold does not make you stronger than anyone else though and usually isn't acquired by cheating which happens to be the case of former emperors.

lol @ former emperor "God-mode" .

I'm fairly certain alot of 'honest' emps can agree that its lost its value, and if they do a purge and remove emp from everyone who has it, those who are truly deserving of it will earn it again by being the best on their server, not because they and their cronies know how to flip keeps in 30 minutes or less.

Becoming Emperor on a full campaign is a matter of how much time you have. Without playing at least 18-20 hours per day until you got Emperor, it won't work. So maybe not everyone who did it once, want to repeat this.

I got my Former Emperor buff honestly, but I don't really care if someone else traded it. Its a nice-to-have-buff so I am strongly against removing it because its the reason why I spent shitloads of hours in Cyrodiil when I should have been sleeping. Nevertheless the buff is so small that it shouldnt really be a disadvantage if you fight against a Former Emperor. So ZOS should just change things so it won't happen on future campaigns and leave everything else just like it is now.

not going to mention the game but the highest PvP rank actually got a different colored text when they spoke in zone chat. This made sense to me. Also..whoever is top AP in your allaince (so next to be emperor or standing emperor should have purple text)

I blow my lid everytime I see a sergeant or major "former emp" run past me.

Make it so AP is taken away when dieing to an enemy..that ap in turn is given to whoever killed you(most dps). Then judging who should be emperor off of AP will be a little more fair. (will also take away the farming sploits)

No ap given for keep sieges or resources captured.(these are strictly to be used for strategic purposes in securing the center 6 keeps or getting scrolls nothing more) Make the player guard their AP like its something special . Make them work for it..make them PVP for it...like it should be..not something that is passed around and laundered before its traded.That makes it cheap and worthless..which is what it is now..AP..AND the title of Emperor."cheap"

OH and P.S. I think the former emp title/buffs should be removed completely. Who cares if you were somebody at one time in some make believe pretend campaign where you had no competition or traded to get your title..we only care about the Current Emp and those in line.