Impressed with graphics

Lancillotto · August 2014

Well, the graphic detail in this game is quite impressive. The devs surely put an incredible amount of effort into creating a detailed, believable world. Everybody must have noticed the beautiful vistas and light effects... but today for the first time I realized that even something as small and inconspicuous as a dungeon crystal has diffractive material properties... it's not just a prismatic object with a texture on top, it actually looks like a real crystal (i.e., light is distorted when passing through it). I just wanted to let the devs know that I am impressed with such detail and beauty. The world they created is truly something to behold.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

Yep, ESO has some of the best overall graphics of any PC game I've played, MMO or not, and that's from someone who maintains a high-end computer 99% of the time including display. 1680x1050 in 2004, 2560x1600 in 2008, 4k in 2014

with the hardware to usually take advantage of said resolutions.

Edit the usersettings.ini with the game client closed and change the following line:

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "0"

to

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3"

and if you have the computer to handle it and a 2560 display or better, you're in for a treat with the higher res. textures & other model LOD's.

babylon · August 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Edit the usersettings.ini with the game client closed and change the following line:

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "0"

to

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3"

and if you have the computer to handle it and a 2560 display or better, you're in for a treat with the higher res. textures & other model LOD's.

Yeah I do that - the game looks amazing with that setting.

RazielSR · August 2014

The game looks really good but once you turn off the fog, the far distance looks absolutely horrible. Being an mmo looks good because it does not show lod in far distance so there is a lot of graphic resource saved. So it looks good depending of what you wanna talk about. Then you have that there is a lot of flat terrain with almost no trees or vegetation,no content,no physics,etc,etc. The textures are very low quality too. Anyway the game looks really good in general.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

The game looks really good but once you turn off the fog, the far distance looks absolutely horrible. Being an mmo looks good because it does not show lod in far distance so there is a lot of graphic resource saved. So it looks good depending of what you wanna talk about. Then you have that there is a lot of flat terrain with almost no trees or vegetation,no content,no physics,etc,etc. The textures are very low quality too. Anyway the game looks really good in general.

Using a third-party tool to disable the default fog that the game is designed around graphically will show ugly long-distance LOD's, yeah. However, it looks amazing and does have a reasonably long view distance normally. Textures are some of the best I've seen in any game with the above mentioned setting set to -3 and a 2560 or 4k display.

Not sure what you mean by "no content" or "no trees or vegetation", are you playing with grass and other items disabled? The only thing "lacking" would be PhysX-level physics, but as far as normal game physics go it has everything appropriate to an MMORPG such as flags waving with soft cloth, etc.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

Here's what it looks like for me, downrezzed to 1080p since I don't think most here are running 4k....

http://i.imgur.com/vUHKNIw.png

Particle effects in general look great. And that's not even on LOD -3 but just -2 in that screenshot because the PC I took it with quickly for a minute just now doesn't have a strong enough card to run that

(it's waiting on the 800 series from NVidia to come out...).

RazielSR · August 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

The game looks really good but once you turn off the fog, the far distance looks absolutely horrible. Being an mmo looks good because it does not show lod in far distance so there is a lot of graphic resource saved. So it looks good depending of what you wanna talk about. Then you have that there is a lot of flat terrain with almost no trees or vegetation,no content,no physics,etc,etc. The textures are very low quality too. Anyway the game looks really good in general.

Using a third-party tool to disable the default fog that the game is designed around graphically will show ugly long-distance LOD's, yeah. However, it looks amazing and does have a reasonably long view distance normally. Textures are some of the best I've seen in any game with the above mentioned setting set to -3 and a 2560 or 4k display.

Not sure what you mean by "no content" or "no trees or vegetation", are you playing with grass and other items disabled? The only thing "lacking" would be PhysX-level physics, but as far as normal game physics go it has everything appropriate to an MMORPG such as flags waving with soft cloth, etc.

No,I dont have anything disabled. But in 100 meteres around,the most of the timeyou have just some trees and some vegetation with a really low lod distance. I play with -3, 1080,everything maxed and sweetfx. The game looks good but to say it is the best looking game ever is a bit ridiculous...play Skyrim with enbs and mods and tweak the inis too...take a look at The Witcher 3 Alpha videos...its million light years away. For me even Age of Conan looks better in general and the cities are a lot more majestic. The good thing about eso is the few things dx11 add to the graphics regarding some lightning and particle effects. The lights from the lanterns in paths or houses does not look good imo. I mean,looks good in general,very good,but when you look to individual things it does not look good. Take screenshots from near distances outside a house for example...the textures are very bad. At night the game just hide a lot of bad looking parts from the view too.I think they should add an HD option for those who can handle it.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

The game looks really good but once you turn off the fog, the far distance looks absolutely horrible. Being an mmo looks good because it does not show lod in far distance so there is a lot of graphic resource saved. So it looks good depending of what you wanna talk about. Then you have that there is a lot of flat terrain with almost no trees or vegetation,no content,no physics,etc,etc. The textures are very low quality too. Anyway the game looks really good in general.

Using a third-party tool to disable the default fog that the game is designed around graphically will show ugly long-distance LOD's, yeah. However, it looks amazing and does have a reasonably long view distance normally. Textures are some of the best I've seen in any game with the above mentioned setting set to -3 and a 2560 or 4k display.

Not sure what you mean by "no content" or "no trees or vegetation", are you playing with grass and other items disabled? The only thing "lacking" would be PhysX-level physics, but as far as normal game physics go it has everything appropriate to an MMORPG such as flags waving with soft cloth, etc.

1080,everything maxed and sweetfx. The game looks good but to say it is the best looking game ever is a bit ridiculous...

I didn't say the best ever, so please do not try to put words in my mouth. I said "one of the best that I've played". There's nothing "ridiculous" about that statement and no reason to insult over a matter of opinion here. Additionally, 1080p isn't exactly considered high-res nowadays...

If Age of Conan looks better for you, your ESO install has something wrong with it because that game looks atrocious by comparison when I have tried it both technically and stylistically. Using an artificial sharpening filter & oversaturation from sweetfx instead of a properly calibrated display might be one of your problems, for starters.

And comparing to a single-player game due out in 2015 that has nowhere near the scale of an MMORPG with hundred-player battles like ESO is a completely irrelevant debate. Zooming in far closer on objects than you'd ever actually do in gameplay is additionally wholly irrelevant as that isn't what you'd experience while actually playing, regardless.

ers101284b14_ESO · August 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Yep, ESO has some of the best overall graphics of any PC game I've played, MMO or not, and that's from someone who maintains a high-end computer 99% of the time including display. 1680x1050 in 2004, 2560x1600 in 2008, 4k in 2014 with the hardware to usually take advantage of said resolutions.

Edit the usersettings.ini with the game client closed and change the following line:

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "0"

to

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3"

and if you have the computer to handle it and a 2560 display or better, you're in for a treat with the higher res. textures & other model LOD's.

Which folder is the usersettings.ini located? I have been looking through all of them and can't find it. I use Sweet FX so not sure if I'll notice a difference anyway

babylon · August 2014

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Which folder is the usersettings.ini located? I have been looking through all of them and can't find it. I use Sweet FX so not sure if I'll notice a difference anyway

It's not in the game folder, it's in the Elder Scrolls Online folder inside documents.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Yep, ESO has some of the best overall graphics of any PC game I've played, MMO or not, and that's from someone who maintains a high-end computer 99% of the time including display. 1680x1050 in 2004, 2560x1600 in 2008, 4k in 2014 with the hardware to usually take advantage of said resolutions.

Edit the usersettings.ini with the game client closed and change the following line:

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "0"

to

SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-3"

and if you have the computer to handle it and a 2560 display or better, you're in for a treat with the higher res. textures & other model LOD's.

Which folder is the usersettings.ini located? I have been looking through all of them and can't find it. I use Sweet FX so not sure if I'll notice a difference anyway

SweetFX is a post processing shader that simply applies an artificial sharpening filter, rather than actually improving the graphics in any technical way. It is completely different than what this setting does. This setting actually tells the game to load higher resolution versions of the textures in memory, which results in a significant image quality gain (basically a high-res texture pack as they would call it for skyrim... by default the in-game max setting actually down-rezzes the textures, rather than allowing you to use the best available

). You can find the settings file in:

C:\Users\XXXXXXXX\Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live

where XXXXXXXX is your windows login username. It is called "usersettings.ini"

.

RazielSR · August 2014

Well I really think Tarantia or Khemi or Dragon Spine looks better than any city or place in Eso,but High Rock.

If this is atrocious for you...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8puCIKvx65o

I didnt say ESO is atrocious anyway...

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]

ers101284b14_ESO · August 2014

Just tried it and it didn't seem to make any difference. My video card supports 4k but I don't have a 4k monitor so not sure if that is why.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Just tried it and it didn't seem to make any difference. My video card supports 4k but I don't have a 4k monitor so not sure if that is why.

You have to have your game client closed fully including the launcher, prior to making the edit and saving the file. If you are only on a 1080p monitor it won't have enough resolution at normal viewing distances to display the extra detail, but it should be very noticeable on ground textures or larger objects in particular even at that resolution. EDIT: I can post a comparison screenshot ala how I did for camera issues here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/128451/here-s-how-eso-s-3rdperson-camera-should-be-adjustable-to-look if you'd like to see what I'm seeing

.

EDIT 2: In fact, here are two cropped screenshots to illustrate 1080p vs. 4k and the difference it makes on my screen (both taken at native res. with in-game engine scaling used for the 1080p shot and simply the default high textures):

1080p:
http://i.imgur.com/mIGoI7R.png

4k:
http://i.imgur.com/KqpJvnX.png

With the LOD levels at -2 or -3 it's even more of a change.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

Well I really think Tarantia or Khemi or Dragon Spine looks better than any city or place in Eso,but High Rock.

If this is atrocious for you...http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8puCIKvx65o

I didnt say ESO is atrocious anyway...you looked like a fanboy there dude.

I didn't say you called eso atrocious, so I have no idea who you are even talking to at this point despite quoting my post. Check your attitude please, there's no need to be hostile about it. This thread is about ESO's graphics and whether or not one likes them... I said I agree with the OP.

RazielSR · August 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Well I really think Tarantia or Khemi or Dragon Spine looks better than any city or place in Eso,but High Rock.

If this is atrocious for you...http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8puCIKvx65o

I didnt say ESO is atrocious anyway...you looked like a fanboy there dude.

I didn't say you called eso atrocious, so I have no idea who you are even talking to at this point despite quoting my post. Check your attitude please, there's no need to be hostile about it. This thread is about ESO's graphics and whether or not one likes them... I said I agree with the OP.

No,i mean that you said age of conan looks atrocious and i replied that i didnt said eso looks atrocious because it seemed you said age of conan looks atrocious because i was badmouthing about eso.

Attorneyatlawl · August 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Well I really think Tarantia or Khemi or Dragon Spine looks better than any city or place in Eso,but High Rock.

If this is atrocious for you...http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8puCIKvx65o

I didnt say ESO is atrocious anyway...you looked like a fanboy there dude.

I didn't say you called eso atrocious, so I have no idea who you are even talking to at this point despite quoting my post. Check your attitude please, there's no need to be hostile about it. This thread is about ESO's graphics and whether or not one likes them... I said I agree with the OP.

No,i mean that you said age of conan looks atrocious and i replied that i didnt said eso looks atrocious necause it seemed you said age of conan looks atrocious because i was badmouthing about eso.

It is my honest opinion that Age of Conan has absolutely nowhere near the visual fidelity of ESO graphically. Given that AOC is a rather old game by now, that's not likely to be a rare opinion if I were to hazard a guess.

ers101284b14_ESO · August 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Just tried it and it didn't seem to make any difference. My video card supports 4k but I don't have a 4k monitor so not sure if that is why.

You have to have your game client closed fully including the launcher, prior to making the edit and saving the file. If you are only on a 1080p monitor it won't have enough resolution at normal viewing distances to display the extra detail, but it should be very noticeable on ground textures or larger objects in particular even at that resolution. EDIT: I can post a comparison screenshot ala how I did for camera issues here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/128451/here-s-how-eso-s-3rdperson-camera-should-be-adjustable-to-look if you'd like to see what I'm seeing .

EDIT 2: In fact, here are two cropped screenshots to illustrate 1080p vs. 4k and the difference it makes on my screen (both taken at native res. with in-game engine scaling used for the 1080p shot and simply the default high textures):

1080p:
http://i.imgur.com/mIGoI7R.png

4k:
http://i.imgur.com/KqpJvnX.png

With the LOD levels at -2 or -3 it's even more of a change.

ok I get ya. Now just gotta find the LOD setting to set it to the -3 and maye that will help.

RazielSR · August 2014

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

Well I really think Tarantia or Khemi or Dragon Spine looks better than any city or place in Eso,but High Rock.

If this is atrocious for you...http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8puCIKvx65o

I didnt say ESO is atrocious anyway...you looked like a fanboy there dude.

I didn't say you called eso atrocious, so I have no idea who you are even talking to at this point despite quoting my post. Check your attitude please, there's no need to be hostile about it. This thread is about ESO's graphics and whether or not one likes them... I said I agree with the OP.

No,i mean that you said age of conan looks atrocious and i replied that i didnt said eso looks atrocious necause it seemed you said age of conan looks atrocious because i was badmouthing about eso.

It is my honest opinion that Age of Conan has absolutely nowhere near the visual fidelity of ESO graphically. Given that AOC is a rather old game by now, that's not likely to be a rare opinion if I were to hazard a guess.

Ok...look at the video or look the distance detail or how the terrain is deaigned showing valleys (not parks) and mountains (not medium sized heights) and cities (not villages)...and being a game older or not does not always mean looking better or not. There are a lot of.other things that have to do with a game being better or worst designed.