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Where are the buffs to NB you promised 3 months ago?
R0M2K
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Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
Patience has a limit.
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✭✭NB don't need buffs...
Game balance overall is out of wack. Once they fix animation cancelling, and bring stamina in line with magicka, then we will see if any of the classes really need help.28 -
R0M2K✭✭✭✭david271749 wrote: »Stamina
Stamina? Every class has stamina, buffing stamina is not buffin the NB class.14 -
p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
More NB buffs? Seriously the game is broken already with all the QQ need buffs.
Most NBs who know how to play, two shot any player in Cyrodiil.
How ridiculous you want the game to be? They should tone down DK, SC & NB damage, not buff it more, for heaven sake.
If 2000 damage hits from stealth are not enough for you, or you cannot achieve them, then maybe this is the wrong game for you or you play wrong?????
Edited by p_tsakirisb16_ESO on August 24, 2014 10:49AM25 -
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✭They haven't buffed the nb that much yes, what they have done is nerfing dks and sorcs a lot to bring them in line.
The only really bad problem in pvp atm is that certain classes can block and do lot of damage while blocking while others cannot.
Nb have the best burst damage in the game and are really really dangerous in pvp now.15 -
VagabondAngel✭✭✭✭My NB can burst from stealth for 2600 damage, with sustainable dps of 600-800.... doesn't seem broken to me. In fact that was at VR7, so its probably more by now (VR10). The only problem with NBs is damage mitigation but since we're assassins, that is by design I guess.
The earlier problem with NB passives not working has been fixed hasn't it? So what exactly is the problem?~ Níamh ~
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p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stamina? Every class has stamina, buffing stamina is not buffin the NB class.
I assume you are not the Red NB Tank I met the other night. Who managed to kill 2 SC and 1 DK in short order before I manage to help them, but was fighting my Khajiit Templar for 15 minutes. Because I can point straight away what your problem was.
You cannot kill a Tank with the rogue ability alone, while you hide behind a shield all the time, casting all the defensive abilities that exist, waiting to generate stamina for the shield charge.Edited by p_tsakirisb16_ESO on August 24, 2014 11:13AM2 -
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✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »They haven't buffed the nb that much yes, what they have done is nerfing dks and sorcs a lot to bring them in line.
The only really bad problem in pvp atm is that certain classes can block and do lot of damage while blocking while others cannot.
Nb have the best burst damage in the game and are really really dangerous in pvp now.
everyone can - and everyone beeing a threat does.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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R0M2K✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
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seaef✭✭✭✭✭Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
I would have expected the "buff" came from you becoming a better player.
Clearly that did not happen.
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✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.----
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✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
More NB buffs? Seriously the game is broken already with all the QQ need buffs.
Most NBs who know how to play, two shot any player in Cyrodiil.
How ridiculous you want the game to be? They should tone down DK, SC & NB damage, not buff it more, for heaven sake.
If 2000 damage hits from stealth are not enough for you, or you cannot achieve them, then maybe this is the wrong game for you or you play wrong?????
This why you never balance around pvp. Cyrodil is only part of the game. End game pve is so borked you need prozac to play it4 -
The_Drexill✭✭✭✭NB's are very very strong, quite possibly #2 under DK's. If you aren't doing well, try to learn from other players who are... you're doin' it wrong.Brandizzle - NB
Drexill The Unbreakable - Sorc
For teh covenant.8 -
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✭What I, as a nb, really need is an improvement to cloak. I need it to actually stay on me. Also, nerfs to impenetrable.
There are ineffective skills that need modifying, such as haste, but it's not a game changer for me. But those two things are a necessity.Edited by smeeprocketnub19_ESO on August 24, 2014 2:00PMDear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.3 -
R0M2K✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
It's well known that bow Nightblades are a huge force in PvP. I don't know what game you've been playing.
Edit: Also, if you only meant to talk about PvP, you should specify that next time. I have plenty of fun in trials. Sorry that you don't.Edited by nerevarine1138 on August 24, 2014 2:46PM----
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✭Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
Dude you guys hitting for over 2k in pvp.. You have an escape if you do not drop someone in 3 secs which over 50% of the time you do... please check you your stats and build.... NBs are fine atmPVP DEADWAIT
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Durham✭✭✭✭✭
✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
It's well known that bow Nightblades are a huge force in PvP. I don't know what game you've been playing.
I see more nbs then anything when im playing.. play stealth away from zergs and you will see them all over the place.... Usually they play in pairs ..mark u send pets then they assist you down no contest...PVP DEADWAIT
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Durham✭✭✭✭✭
✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
With the most burst dps in the game from surprise you are crazy good..
Dueling is not the nb style... if you want to become a better dueling class you have to give up your nasty burst dps sorry but if you had that plus competitive in a duel and have your get away that would destroy pvp.... after the last patch nbs are good and i have seen some very good dueling restostaff nbs...PVP DEADWAIT
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Never claimed to be a "pro", but I do get better over time.
You should try it. Does wonders.
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TheBull✭✭✭✭✭
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NBs are more restricted than any class right now because of broken abilities that have been cited and not fixed for months.Apart from hilarious minor buffs to a couple of useless skills you have done NOTHING in 3 months now.
Patience has a limit.
Dude you guys hitting for over 2k in pvp.. You have an escape if you do not drop someone in 3 secs which over 50% of the time you do... please check you your stats and build.... NBs are fine atm
Sure we have 3 skills that work well together. Ambush > Surprise > Blade/Impale. Work well if you find someone alone, you can move behind, with no shields up, and not holding block. Then if you get 3 crits you might just kill the guy.
Now stir in 100 people inside a keep see how effective your 2 minute prep to kill one person is. Sure if this game had duels or arenas, NBs would be awesome (if the target doesn't back into a corner and hold block) but it doesn't.
All you see is the end result of painstaking prep, caution, and desecration. Again all of that for one kill. Meanwhile Mr. Pro DK is running around touching everything while L33T Sorc is streaking through crowds taking no damage and Bat Swarming, and Templars are exploiting Blazing Shield.Edited by TheBull on August 24, 2014 3:06PMKilled by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
Killed by Early Bright - Blood Flow - Magicka NB Build
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Shunravi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Please, explain, what buffs are we talking about exactly? Where are they needed?
To those who say that nb can't duel, have obviously never seen a nb duel. If you try to take a burst build into a duel with a defensive/ sustained build, you will lose. With a similar build, a nb can tear an opponent appart. Nb are very good at wearing down a block, and can outlast the resource use of the other classes.
In endgame like trials, nb are very strong. Fullel health and sap essence both do good damage, while healing the group. If I'm not mistaken, the 8min record in trials was done with 8 nb.
So a little more clarification, if you please.This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
R0M2K✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
It's well known that bow Nightblades are a huge force in PvP. I don't know what game you've been playing.
Edit: Also, if you only meant to talk about PvP, you should specify that next time. I have plenty of fun in trials. Sorry that you don't.
Bow is a skill line that EVERY class can use and fire lethal arrow from shealth for crit+2x dmg, its not a NB exclusive.7 -
TheBull✭✭✭✭✭
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Let's start with fixing Cloak so that NBs dot's don't break it. (known bug. Cited as such by devs)So a little more clarification, if you please.
Buffs?
We have a DoT tree (Siphon), with DoTs on Magicka capped toons that do 700 dmg over 12 seconds. Now remember, people regenerate 50-150 health every 2 seconds That 700 is now 400 over 12 seconds.
How about our AoE skill Path of Darkness. 72 dmg per second with the dmg morph. It was buffed from 65 dmg...
Blur, this should be our defensive cooldown, but 15% chance to miss REALLY? 15%? Not enough to take a bar spot.
Shades, their only purpose is to chase off a newb or hope he holds block. They do ZERO damage. Seriously 0 dmg.
I can go on, but I will settle for a fix to Cloak and being stuck in combat.
Edited by TheBull on August 24, 2014 3:22PMKilled by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
Killed by Early Bright - Blood Flow - Magicka NB Build
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nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
It's well known that bow Nightblades are a huge force in PvP. I don't know what game you've been playing.
Edit: Also, if you only meant to talk about PvP, you should specify that next time. I have plenty of fun in trials. Sorry that you don't.
Bow is a skill line that EVERY class can use and fire lethal arrow from shealth for crit+2x dmg, its not a NB exclusive.
And yet the bow Nightblades are the ones everyone's talking about.
Look, I get that you're frustrated by other people appearing to know how to play the class better than you. And it also seems like a lot of content in this game is frustrating in general for you, since you think PvE isn't actually part of the game. Maybe you should step back for a moment and re-think your build instead of continuing your one-man crusade to buff a class that's doing just fine.----
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R0M2K✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
With the most burst dps in the game from surprise you are crazy good..
Dueling is not the nb style... if you want to become a better dueling class you have to give up your nasty burst dps sorry but if you had that plus competitive in a duel and have your get away that would destroy pvp.... after the last patch nbs are good and i have seen some very good dueling restostaff nbs...
1- Surprise fails 50% of the time
2- magelight
3- perma-block
4- very situational
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✭My NB can two shot most players. I have not played my sorc or dk in weeks.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
v14 DK Costs
v14 NB 'Vis
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Crowzer✭✭✭Not buff the NB, just FIX the current bug such as the Dark Cloak. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Anyaway, I feel like this thread is filled by victims.Edited by Crowzer on August 24, 2014 3:30PM2 -
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There are ways around all of those. I won't share the obvious solutions because every game needs some freebies to farm.nerevarine1138 wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
1- Enumerate that extense list of NB buffs pls.
2- Gl tryin to 2-shot any minimal competent player stacking full impen and/or perma-blocking-while-casting-skills-at-the-very-same-time.
3- After the initial burts, GAME OVER.
As someone else mentioned, a lot of the "buffing" involved bringing Dragonknights and Sorcerers down to more reasonable levels.
Nightblades are highly effective now, and if you're running trials, the group always needs a minimum of two to be viable. I don't know what else you want.
Trials? What are they good for?
Loot? Nope
Fun? Nope
I see no reason to do Trials.
PvP IS the end game, and its clearly dominated for DKs in the first place followed by Sorcs and Templars, leaving the NB class the last.
Good luck dueling with a NB.
With the most burst dps in the game from surprise you are crazy good..
Dueling is not the nb style... if you want to become a better dueling class you have to give up your nasty burst dps sorry but if you had that plus competitive in a duel and have your get away that would destroy pvp.... after the last patch nbs are good and i have seen some very good dueling restostaff nbs...
1- Surprise fails 50% of the time
2- magelight
3- perma-block
4- very situational
v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
v14 DK Costs
v14 NB 'Vis
v14 Temp Fiat Lux5
