Thornblade EU

synnerman · August 2014

Sharee wrote: »

synnerman wrote: »

Morticielle wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Zadian wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

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The biggest question (for me, at least) is do you EP who partake in this play style actually enjoy it? To me, it seems incredibly boring:
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I play EP on Thornblade EU and I enjoy playing there. I usually play at EU prime-time and in that time period the AD and DC is giving us a good fight

Thornblade EU, saturday afternoon:

http://imgur.com/cDKXQR3

Yup, that is the EP skill, EP players speak off.

its the skill that's made AD and DC run off and cry on other campaigns....

Actually, no. It was not skill, it was cheating. There was a whole thread about it earlier in the month:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/126713/thornblade-eu-due-to-exploiters-and-cheaters-ep-gained-a-massive-lead/p1

(ZOS patched the extreme damage some abilities were doing in a later patch, but the damage to the campaign was already done)

I gather the OP damage bugs were limited to EP ......Rofl

Vampiresbane · August 2014

The fights are pretty balanced during the day. In fact a lot of the time AD and DC are kicking EP's butt.

How does EP gain so many points? They have a night crew plain and simple.

ZOS doesn't need to do anything to fix this. DC and AD do.

Overall, even though I'm a DC player, I care more about having fun fights than the silly scoreboard. As a result, I just play during primetime and have a great time. To Oblivion with the scoreboard imo.

ThyIronFist · August 2014

This is hilarious. We won fair and squire. Seeing all the QQ is priceless.

We had dedicated and multiple organized groups running 24/7. From what I've seen from the DC and AD: a lot of impulse spam zergballs that only care about AP farming. The reason why you lost this campaign is because you had mindless AP farm trains. They capture a resource (Arrius mine) for example, and mindlessly run around all afternoon long and farm noobs that keep running in.

This is how you lost the campaign my dear smurfs and bananas. Partly thanks to these kind of players. By having AP farm groups that don't give a crap about the campaign itself.

I also like that some of you keep saying that "EP sucks because they can't hold keeps".

That's because half of the time we are fighting a war on two fronts.

Anyhow, it brings me joy to see so many blue and yellow tears. Beautiful.

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Vunter · August 2014

Hello people, Ingan from EP here.
PVP sucks at all atm. Night red raids are destroying the fun.
Campaign was full/full/full almost all the time.
Now blues and yellows won't come anymore in this campaign.. Can't blame them, they probably think "meh whatever, at night we'll lose all.. Let's switch campaign"

...And this is a bad thing obviously, I want to PVP.
Don't know who are those night raiders, but stop this dung ASAP, please.

Mitrenga · August 2014

You might want to check again.

Iradicus · August 2014

ThyIronFist wrote: »

This is hilarious. We won fair and squire.

erm, no you did not. check the link earlier in this post. EP got a giant lead by having an exploit that weirdly AD and DC did not.

And this is not about who wins or loses, this is about fun in PvP.
Most players ive met dont care at all about winning or losing, we just want to have a fun time in cyrodiil and not having to run for our lives every time as we get outnumbered 3 to 1.
But how you just made that post shows quite a bit how you pvp. And you might have dedicated pvp goups going, so did we. But it wont matter at all if you have double or tripple the numbers of AD and DC combined. You can have a great raid (like we had several) but if you face those odds, it is not worth a thing.

As ive said before, EP can defend 3 to 4 keeps, go after a scroll and capture any keep at the same time. While AD and DC have a few hours of 'prime time' to even try to put up a fight.

Cogo · August 2014

Small note. Most of Ebonheart pact is Public groups. Sure, some of us starting to know some names....but no TS, just plain BUTTKICKING!

Obus · August 2014

synnerman wrote: »

Obus, rofl at your whiny post , you lost get over it.....We don't need to night cap sunshine cos you cant take anything back without yellows help. Enjoy beating less organised grps on empty servers... Can you really cry anymore you little child.

Keep doing pve on nights. And btw, a good amount of the best ep groups left tb also. I would say... enjoy doing pve and beating yellow pugs

We don't need to night cap

Hahahah well i will stop it here. Obvious troll is obvious.

Dude, just read some of the EP comments on this thread. If there is ppl on YOUR alliance that agrees with me also, it should be mean something. Now enjoy your empty campaign.

synnerman · August 2014

Iradicus wrote: »

ThyIronFist wrote: »

This is hilarious. We won fair and squire.

erm, no you did not. check the link earlier in this post. EP got a giant lead by having an exploit that weirdly AD and DC did not.

And this is not about who wins or loses, this is about fun in PvP.
Most players ive met dont care at all about winning or losing, we just want to have a fun time in cyrodiil and not having to run for our lives every time as we get outnumbered 3 to 1.
But how you just made that post shows quite a bit how you pvp. And you might have dedicated pvp goups going, so did we. But it wont matter at all if you have double or tripple the numbers of AD and DC combined. You can have a great raid (like we had several) but if you face those odds, it is not worth a thing.

As ive said before, EP can defend 3 to 4 keeps, go after a scroll and capture any keep at the same time. While AD and DC have a few hours of 'prime time' to even try to put up a fight.

Rofl....oh the excuses...they took the megaservers down to fix a damage bug that only EP had OMG this is priceless.. We were dying to 3k snipes etc aswell ...it was a universal scaling bug so stop using it as an excuse. BTW this massive lead talked about at the time was 2k. The so called damage bug that you miraculously think that only applied to EP was fixed... ONE question what's the lead now a week after the so called singular faction damage bug was fixed????

Perhaps ask the blue main impulse raid ran by MR E why he took his grp to Arrius mine 3 days on the trot and never once entered Arrius, just farmed grps who went up to the mine. In the end we just left randoms being killed by him and his grp and took keeps and he still didn't move. Same with MR S of the yellow faction, farming grps and APs and not taking resources. The only time he moved was when we went to your shrine gates because he knew he could farm points.
Don't point the finger at our guys who are organised on TS with a war council made up of several guilds , point the finger at your main guys who just want points and kudos.

Oh and bye Obus

enjoy playing against weaker opposition and if they win try the 7 day campaigns . You keep saying enjoy your empty campaign....I do enjoy it because it means we have run all the smurfs and bananas off the campaign.
Just remember guys......
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

Bushrat · August 2014

synnerman wrote: »

Iradicus wrote: »

ThyIronFist wrote: »

This is hilarious. We won fair and squire.

erm, no you did not. check the link earlier in this post. EP got a giant lead by having an exploit that weirdly AD and DC did not.

And this is not about who wins or loses, this is about fun in PvP.
Most players ive met dont care at all about winning or losing, we just want to have a fun time in cyrodiil and not having to run for our lives every time as we get outnumbered 3 to 1.
But how you just made that post shows quite a bit how you pvp. And you might have dedicated pvp goups going, so did we. But it wont matter at all if you have double or tripple the numbers of AD and DC combined. You can have a great raid (like we had several) but if you face those odds, it is not worth a thing.

As ive said before, EP can defend 3 to 4 keeps, go after a scroll and capture any keep at the same time. While AD and DC have a few hours of 'prime time' to even try to put up a fight.

Rofl....oh the excuses...they took the megaservers down to fix a damage bug that only EP had OMG this is priceless.. We were dying to 3k snipes etc aswell ...it was a universal scaling bug so stop using it as an excuse. BTW this massive lead talked about at the time was 2k. The so called damage bug that you miraculously think that only applied to EP was fixed... ONE question what's the lead now a week after the so called singular faction damage bug was fixed????

Perhaps ask the blue main impulse raid ran by MR E why he took his grp to Arrius mine 3 days on the trot and never once entered Arrius, just farmed grps who went up to the mine. In the end we just left randoms being killed by him and his grp and took keeps and he still didn't move. Same with MR S of the yellow faction, farming grps and APs and not taking resources. The only time he moved was when we went to your shrine gates because he knew he could farm points.
Don't point the finger at our guys who are organised on TS with a war council made up of several guilds , point the finger at your main guys who just want points and kudos.

Oh and bye Obus enjoy playing against weaker opposition and if they win try the 7 day campaigns . You keep saying enjoy your empty campaign....I do enjoy it because it means we have run all the smurfs and bananas off the campaign.
Just remember guys......
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

Your attitude demonstrates a complete ignorance of the fact that EP outnumbers both DC and AD most of the time on Thornblade. You still want to live in the fantasy land that all your co-ordination is the only reason for EP success. You can't hide the numbers as they speak for themselves. Every example you use can cut both ways, I have seen EP players farming AD players also.... we have groups that coordinate raids and use TS etc etc.

HOWEVER... you cannot deny the fact that when ONE faction has a greater population of players playing it gives then an advantage...which is the main topic of this thread. Even many of the EP players admit this and want a fair fight like we do. Bugs and exploits take place system wide and effect each faction, each faction has exploiters and AP farmers, each faction has a majority of good minded and excellent players. Lets hope that some fair solution is reached. Of course every faction wants to win, I like to win and I have not given up on Thornblade. I have the most fun on any campaign when the numbers are fairly equal. I do not mind losing if its a fair fight. I can't imagine its fun winning on a campaign that does not have much population to fight against.

Orchish · August 2014

I bet EP were shocked to actually have to fight real DC players last night instead of empty keeps

First time i see DC stay up overnight and they achieve emperor. Well done guys.

synnerman · August 2014

Bushrat , I have been on Thornblade every single day since the campaign started. It hasn't always been the case that EP have had more on the server than the others. Its only since we started winning. I even remember blues nightcapping at the beginning hence the reason EP started to counter it .The server was locked on all factions at one time so pls stop blaming it on the numbers ...yes now we may have a numerical advantage and that's simply because the others factions have given up.
I cant help that can I? But at least you haven't given up and I'm glad you're not like some of the others who have just upped and gone to dominate the minnow servers.

synnerman · August 2014

Orchish wrote: »

I bet EP were shocked to actually have to fight real DC players last night instead of empty keeps First time i see DC stay up overnight and they achieve emperor. Well done guys.

Pity you didn't dominate and take all your scrolls back and get some point on the board aswell... ah well you still got Emp. Anyway, thats all I will say as about as bored with this as I am with impulse spammers so bb and gl on the battlefield .

Orchish · August 2014

synnerman wrote: »

Orchish wrote: »

I bet EP were shocked to actually have to fight real DC players last night instead of empty keeps First time i see DC stay up overnight and they achieve emperor. Well done guys.

Pity you didn't dominate and take all your scrolls back and get some point on the board aswell... ah well you still got Emp. Anyway, thats all I will say as about as bored with this as I am with impulse spammers so bb and gl on the battlefield .

Yeah except that we did take both our scrolls back plus one of AD's... so not sure what you're getting at. Don't worry though, the weekend is almost over and DC will be back to work allowing the EP night shift to take empty keeps again.

hamon · August 2014

well since DC seem to whine about fair play maybe they should have a word with the DC guys who managed to grab a scroll from behind both closed gates with 4 nb's and a couple of dk's? this was at about 8pm tonight.

they never got far , probably couldnt get any exploit to work to get out the locked gates...

Vunter · August 2014

First keep calm, this is just a game.
Second, stop thinking "my factions is always better hurr durr".. Speak the freaking truth.
EP was doing well before night raids but surely not "dominating".. We took some scrolls and get emperor and stuff certain days, right.
EP was on top of leaderboard most of the time, but the difference in points was about 2k or something like that..

Now we are winning only for night raids, at afternoon we aren't organised at all, except for TS groups (...maybe, because I'm not any of them. So idk really)

G0ku · August 2014

ThyIronFist wrote: »

From what I've seen from the DC and AD: a lot of impulse spam zergballs that only care about AP farming. The reason why you lost this campaign is because you had mindless AP farm trains. They capture a resource (Arrius mine) for example, and mindlessly run around all afternoon long and farm noobs that keep running in.

This is how you lost the campaign my dear smurfs and bananas. Partly thanks to these kind of players. By having AP farm groups that don't give a crap about the campaign itself.

This, so much this. First our 1337 AD´s leave campaign for whatever reasons and then they come back on primetime because they feel bored on their all-yellow home campaign with the single goal to farm AP by pulse-spamming mobs with no interest in helping taking back any keep or ressource while locking people out who want to recapture the map. It´s so silly at this point one can only choose to laugh or cry.

I never leave a campaign I started in, if we fall back I feel the fault is on my side and it´s my duty as a proud aldmeri to fight off the enemy forces.

- get rid of guesting as a whole, if you want to play with your friends you should communicate about where to go when new campaigns start; with the new timeframe given to campaigns this should not be much of a problem

- get rid of changing your campaign; again with the new timeframe it´s not that long of time to wait until you can go to another campaign

- get rid of the bonuses for PvE: entire PvE Raids calculate their build basing on the buffs given from their PvP campaign and therefore changing their campaigns to the shores where they got their buffs secured

- get rid of any bonuses the Emperor title gives: make it just a title with you can show off, a nice dye you can use for your armor and a disguise you can wear whenever you want; and ffs reset all given emperor titles given out until now, for the most of them being griefed, although I would feel sorry for the few who got them fair and square

As for the state of PvP as right now, I just expect pure horror when emp city starts off.

Morticielle · August 2014

synnerman wrote: »

Morticielle wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Zadian wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

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The biggest question (for me, at least) is do you EP who partake in this play style actually enjoy it? To me, it seems incredibly boring:
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I play EP on Thornblade EU and I enjoy playing there. I usually play at EU prime-time and in that time period the AD and DC is giving us a good fight

Thornblade EU, saturday afternoon:

http://imgur.com/cDKXQR3

Yup, that is the EP skill, EP players speak off.

Not always been like that though has it??? its the skill that's made AD and DC run off and cry on other campaigns.... They have been completely battered in to submission just like the blue faced , yellow backed cowards we knew they were

[SNIP]
so they can take all keeps, scrolls and even resources during the night time, and when later in the day AD and DC players come back home from work they are faced with a red map.

So don't fool yourself into thinking, that EP is more skillful or in anyway better than AD or DC

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Morticielle · August 2014

synnerman wrote: »

Obus, rofl at your whiny post , you lost get over it.....We don't need to night cap sunshine cos you cant take anything back without yellows help. Enjoy beating less organised grps on empty servers... Can you really cry anymore you little child.

So if your words would be true, why is it that Thornblade was split up evenly between the three alliances when I left late yesterday evening and now at 7 am (CEST) ist was completely red (only 3 resources remained untaken)? How can this be if reds do no night raids, as you just said? Please explain that to me!

I'm really curious what explanation you will give. 'It is a wonder, call the pope!' might be one. Or 'This were the gremlins!'. Or 'It's not real, just Jedi mind tricks!' ...

Volla · August 2014

its the same guild from US that play those Night raids. as long we play on the day its pretty balanced. but when they come at night and start roaming, they ruin the balance. i was couple weeks no factions had more than 2 scrolls and it was a really even fight. then suddenly the night raids started.

it takes to start all over again every day. i totally understand why people change.

maby each side should be balanced how many people there is on the lowest populated side. in that way it can't be to much people in and roam to much.

Morticielle · August 2014

Volla wrote: »

i was couple weeks no factions had more than 2 scrolls and it was a really even fight. then suddenly the night raids started.

That cannot be true because tomatoes claim not to do any night raids. And you know: Tomatoes never lie ...

synnerman · August 2014

I actually said I wasn't going to say anymore but I have to say one thing the bold highlight is PART of a sentence Morticielle. I Have never said we haven't night capped I said we don't have to because Blues need to team up with the yellows to take anything ie if we didnt night cap and you 2 factions didnt come together we would be just fine.
I quote an earlier post of mine that youre obviously too thick to read:
synnerman wrote: »

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It makes me laugh when you say this...of course we get hammered because we are being attacked by 2 full factions in primetime because the blues and yellows cant hold on to their scrolls and keeps outside of primetime.

Blues did the same thing on Dawnbreaker and yellows did the same on Auriels Bow. Don't blame reds for capping during the evening when that was your tactics on the main 90 day campaigns. Its just that most of your guilds have bottled it because even in primetime now you cant take your scrolls back so they run off to blob and dominate minnows on other campaigns and resturn now and again with buffs.

I notice on the Dawnbreaker Eu thread that you commented on you never once berated the other faction (blues) for nightcapping every single night.

Context is the word you're looking for just like the other muppet who plucked a few words out of a sentence.

Kira_Night · August 2014

Please, stop being so envy about your loss of the Server

Better move your asses to the Thornblade, build guilds, make trains and turn the situation upside down!!!

(but of course you won't, because we all know that you are weak!)
mmuuwwahahahahahahaha...

G0ku · August 2014

It´s just a poor display of Zenimax ability to balance this issue out, no more no less.

And to those red players playing over daytime who still think it´s due to their superior skill: no harsh words, don´t wake a dreaming child. Reality in fights over day just prove you wrong.

Orchish · August 2014

Kira, i wonder if you actually play during prime time? Because if so you'd know that EP get smashed right back to their gates almost. The reason Thornblade has died for AD and DC recently is not because people don't enjoy a challenge, it's because you have locked population when we both have 1 bar each, and the fact that EP won't come and fight us during prime time, but rather wait until every one goes to sleep and cap the entire map without resistance. I often wonder how you guys find that fun? surely if you love fighting NPC's so much you might as well just stick to PvE?

Personally i won't be leaving Thornblade despite the fact it's crazy unbalanced right now when it comes to pop. Sadly, many people have left as they think to them selves what's the point in taking our keeps and scrolls back only for EP to re-cap the entire map as we all sleep? Come on guys, how about sleeping during the night for once and fighting during the day? It's fun fighting other real players i promise.

R0M2K · August 2014

Before Thornblade there was Auriels Bow.

I remember having complained about Shidos (AD) night raids asking for Cyrodill to be closed at night.
All the answers i got were "get your faction do the same" ***.

Now you are on the flip side of the coin, how does it feels? Sux i know.

Aprodite · August 2014

Orchish wrote: »

Come on guys, how about sleeping during the night for once and fighting during the day? It's fun fighting other real players i promise.

On prime time yesterday they shown up on Haderus. We had a nice fight at BRK, even when they formed their lagtrain, we wiped them there. In open field I saw the best pvp players from Eur. getting beaten up, they are skilled.. ahum. At roebeck, they wanted to show EP from Haderus how they wipe AD. We were standing there on the wall and wiped them before they could hit a button. They guesting till you go to sleep.

Zadian · August 2014

Orchish wrote: »

…, and the fact that EP won't come and fight us during prime time, …

EP is fighting AD and DC at prime time. The "problem" is, that EP has to fight AD and DC while AD and DC are primarily fighting EP. So you will only see about the half of EP fighting you, the other part is fighting the other fraction - the one you are ignoring

Junipus · August 2014

It's pretty obvious to any organised group in DC and AD that EP don't really have many good, organised, groups themselves and rely on numbers. Every evening we spend it wiping group after group of EP so that others can reclaim keeps, and almost every evening we take back a scroll or two and dethrone the emperor (in conjunction, but not cooperation, with AD).

It's only once most DC and AD players have gone to sleep that EP keeps their population bonus and starts retaking everything they lost during the day. The only benefit is that they do the same thing day in and day out so are quickly becoming predictable.

Even if nothing changed from ZOS before the next campaign, EP would find it almost impossible to own most of the map before 11pm BST.

synnerman · August 2014

ROFL, I couldn't stay away with some of the *** being spouted on this thread.
EP Are so bad we can only win by numbers??? What happened in the first 2 weeks of this campaign when we were winning by the odd hundred.....where was your superiority then when ALL factions were locked and no night capping was going on apart from the time when blues tried and got smashed back to the gates..

The only reason why EP gets smashed back to the gates is because in Prime time we are fighting against 2/TWO fully capped factions . So stop smelling your own arse and thinking you're the Dogs Danglies .
You're like a bunch of old women moaning about the weather ffs, stop your whining. Yes the night capping has finished this campaign but its no different than what went on with Yellows on AB and what happened on Dawnbreaker with Blues . Your factions managed to do it then so don't cry holier than thou when Reds have done it now. We cant help it if you cant muster the same people who did it on other campaigns for your factions.

I repeat REDS have lead this campaign for 75% of the time before night capping started...Get over it and stop this stupid thread.