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Really, really small things that annoy me greatly

daneyulebub17_ESO
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3 annoying things, so trivial I'm almost embarrassed to mention them, but boy, do they annoy. So I'm posting about 'em.

1. When banking--unless I'm missing something--when you're depositing, they show what space you have in your bags. When withdrawing, you see how much space is in your bank. Why not...um...show both on both screens? It's pertinent info, and without it, I'm always having to switch back and forth to see how full one or the other is.

2. Sold messages from a successful guild store sale don't tell you what just sold, just the money you received. Nuff said.

3. Going to various guild kiosks, it doesn't remember your last search, so you end up having to click all the filters again. It does when switching between your own guilds' stores--it should for kiosks as well.

(And--bonus--whats with MOTIFS being the default first choice to search for in all 3 professions that use them in the Guild store searches? Why? It's not even alphabetical--are MOTIFS really the thing most people search for, over raw materials or refined? Do you know how many thousands of unnecessary clicks having this as an option generates per day over the user base??? The top of the list default should always be what is searched for most--how hard would it be to have set that up?)
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  • Akula
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    I came here fully expecting some dumb whine post about something idiotic like immersion breaking puzzles in quests. But here we have some legitimate complaints. I agree 100%
  • Elad13
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    Why do I have to open my inventory when in world interacting objects become locked? It's like I kill something and use an ultimate...then goto open a door and the option is blacked out....I then have to open my inventory screen to "unlock" it....it happens at least 2 times a day for me.
    Why do I have werewolf form when it gives no power or advantage? It was not so easy to become such a useless side item.
    Why when joining a group do I get kicked out for wearing heavy armor and no staff?
    Why can't I search for jewlery?
    Why do 1/2 my passives not seem to function?
    Why in battle when I try to switch weapons does the game freeze?

    According to hitch hikers guide to the galaxy the answer is 42....so I am assuming around month 42 eso will come out of beta.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    I agree about sold messages. I want to see what sold and from which guild store so I know where to focus my sales.
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  • Potenza
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    Sold messages need more info!
  • dsalter
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    some good examples
    heres afew extra for that list.

    I hate when you accidentally equip an item you intended to sell because no bind message came up.

    dislike how you cant look at food recipes on the go so you can tell what your looking for specificity for an item.

    really irritates me when a door in cyrodiil doesnt work and it gets you wasted, this one borders on being a big thing that annoys me greatly.

    pushes my buttons when i can search my bag for things i want to sell but divines forbid i search for something i want to buy.

    no speech bubbles. that one bugs me hardcore.
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  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    I think, when Depositing in the GUILD bank, it doesn't show the fact that you're on the GUILD bank on screen. There's no guild name at the bottom of the screen, just the "Deposit Gold" option, exactly as when depositing in your regular, personal bank (withdrawing from it does show the guild name at the bottom, as does any functions in the GUILD Store. Just not Depositing in the GUILD bank.).

    Since the UI makes you switch back and forth and back and forth so much doing inventory management, I've a number of times forgotten I was on the GUILD Bank, and deposited some big items which anyone in my guild could then have grabbed (luckily, haven't lost anything permanently yet).

    I'd add that.
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  • Venereous44
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    In Riften.. It's HERE!! It's HERE!! It's HERE!! Hey, guess what?! It's HERE!!
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    Sorry, can you say again? It's HERE!!
  • Aenra
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    all good points here, agreeing with everything actually :)

    except speech bubbles, you need to give them an extra: --optional--
    bad enough you walk to an inn/hamlet and between the NPCs and the RPers, you basically need to either have /say off, or just give up on your chat window.
    Speech bubbles on top of that?

    Why, so i can experience the effect twice? Not just in verbal, but in visual as well? If optional a choice however, am all with you if you need it
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  • Makkir
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    You know what really grinds my gears? Lindsay Lohan....all dancing around in those little outfits...what do you want me to do Lindsay, huh?

    Oh and yes. I think it is inevitable they'll let you see what you sold in those sold messages. Rather annoying.
  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    In keeping with "trivial" intent of this thread (ie, not listing huge bugs or glaring feature-lacks, and only things that are not toooooo hard to fix, and just really a stupid oversight on Zeni's part)...

    -- No loot info dumped into chat without an add-on

    --No zone wide chat other than... zone (where's advice, ooc, trade...)
    Edited by daneyulebub17_ESO on August 23, 2014 12:44PM
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  • Psychobunni
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    I think, when Depositing in the GUILD bank, it doesn't show the fact that you're on the GUILD bank on screen. There's no guild name at the bottom of the screen, just the "Deposit Gold" option, exactly as when depositing in your regular, personal bank (withdrawing from it does show the guild name at the bottom, as does any functions in the GUILD Store. Just not Depositing in the GUILD bank.).

    Since the UI makes you switch back and forth and back and forth so much doing inventory management, I've a number of times forgotten I was on the GUILD Bank, and deposited some big items which anyone in my guild could then have grabbed (luckily, haven't lost anything permanently yet).

    I'd add that.


    I just did that 2 days ago and was complaining to my husband the exact same thing, why in Talos name does it not say guild name on the deposit screen!?!?

    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

  • Elsonso
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    1. When banking--unless I'm missing something--when you're depositing, they show what space you have in your bags. When withdrawing, you see how much space is in your bank. Why not...um...show both on both screens? It's pertinent info, and without it, I'm always having to switch back and forth to see how full one or the other is.

    nexusmods.com/elderscrollsonline/mods/53/
    3. Going to various guild kiosks, it doesn't remember your last search, so you end up having to click all the filters again. It does when switching between your own guilds' stores--it should for kiosks as well.

    esoui.com/downloads/info695-AwesomeGuildStore.html

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  • virreab16_ESO
    According to the title of this thread, one small thing what annoys me the most is that HORRIBLE chewing sound when you stand next to one of the animals eating grass or whatever.

    My god, why is this sound in the game anyway. Getting the chills listening to it. Better kill the animal then.....
  • TheAmu
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    It annoys me when I finish a quest, but I can't finish the quest because it gives me a reward and my inventory is full.

    If my inventory is full, give me the option then and there to remove something to make room. Don't make me cancel out, remove some junk, then talk to the NPC again and hear him or her say the exact same thing again like a crazy person.

    Ugh!
    Edited by TheAmu on August 23, 2014 2:13PM
  • Tandor
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    dsalter wrote: »

    dislike how you cant look at food recipes on the go so you can tell what your looking for specificity for an item.

    That's the one point in the thread thus far that I agree with, 100%. The others don't concern me.

  • Daraugh
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    Players who don't dismiss giant flapping winged twilight pets. Then add the blue waterfall effect after morphing, ok, great you have a pet. We don't all need to see it flapping in front of the banker, craft table, stable guy, behind the dye station ruining the lighting etc. I wish they would automatically be dismissed indoors at least, the same way you get dismounted.
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  • Blo0dstorm
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    I'd like to have a default option for guild store in the UI so I don't have to reselect the one I use mainly each time I want to sell something .
    I'm member of 5 guilds but only use one store for selling stuff.
  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    1. When banking--unless I'm missing something--when you're depositing, they show what space you have in your bags. When withdrawing, you see how much space is in your bank. Why not...um...show both on both screens? It's pertinent info, and without it, I'm always having to switch back and forth to see how full one or the other is.

    nexusmods.com/elderscrollsonline/mods/53/
    3. Going to various guild kiosks, it doesn't remember your last search, so you end up having to click all the filters again. It does when switching between your own guilds' stores--it should for kiosks as well.

    esoui.com/downloads/info695-AwesomeGuildStore.html

    Thanks @lordrichter!!! Can't wait to try 'em--stupid server's down right now, though. :<

    Both those look perfect, and somehow I've missed 'em. Thank you so much--especially since you created the bank info one yourself!
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    1. Lack of camera options for third-person view: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/128451/here-s-how-eso-s-3rdperson-camera-should-be-adjustable-to-look . Let me center the camera, and zoom it out further, as well as have a third-person Field of View slider. They added one for first-person already, for example.

    2. Lack of default available OPTIONAL functionality, let alone even being able to be done through addons, such as name and guild tags right above people's overhead healthbars. A built-in optional combat log tab would be sublime too that would actually be allowed to show us what abilities hit our characters and other normal combat info (this doesn't add to UI clutter as it would just be another chat tab, anyway... why they disabled the original combat log tab option from beta is beyond me to this day).

    3. Lack of option to "sell all weapons" or "sell all armor" below a certain quality level in one click, similar to how "repair all" will repair your currently equipped items. It's tedious mashing that sell button emptying out my packs.
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on August 25, 2014 12:13PM
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  • butterfly442
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    According to the title of this thread, one small thing what annoys me the most is that HORRIBLE chewing sound when you stand next to one of the animals eating grass or whatever.

    My god, why is this sound in the game anyway. Getting the chills listening to it. Better kill the animal then.....

    You have sound on?

    omg

  • Sideline
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    Inventory and bank lists not being alphabetical by default.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Sideline wrote: »
    Inventory and bank lists not being alphabetical by default.

    And resetting how "new" items are considered when using the filter to sort by age, then closing your bags and re-opening them shortly after. I can loot five items, open my bags to see them... then go to a vendor and the list is alphabetical again without the items showing up as new still for me to sort through quickly.
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  • Soloeus
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    3 annoying things, so trivial I'm almost embarrassed to mention them, but boy, do they annoy. So I'm posting about 'em.

    1. When banking--unless I'm missing something--when you're depositing, they show what space you have in your bags. When withdrawing, you see how much space is in your bank. Why not...um...show both on both screens? It's pertinent info, and without it, I'm always having to switch back and forth to see how full one or the other is.

    2. Sold messages from a successful guild store sale don't tell you what just sold, just the money you received. Nuff said.

    3. Going to various guild kiosks, it doesn't remember your last search, so you end up having to click all the filters again. It does when switching between your own guilds' stores--it should for kiosks as well.

    (And--bonus--whats with MOTIFS being the default first choice to search for in all 3 professions that use them in the Guild store searches? Why? It's not even alphabetical--are MOTIFS really the thing most people search for, over raw materials or refined? Do you know how many thousands of unnecessary clicks having this as an option generates per day over the user base??? The top of the list default should always be what is searched for most--how hard would it be to have set that up?)

    Awesome and Agree on all points.

    I will add a few.

    4. You can't view Softcap numbers or Total Skill Points/Points Spent without a mod.

    5. Having to go to every Crafting Station to check what you need to research without a mod.

    These are 2 things we all use Mods for, and it would be great if they were just naturally a part of the game.

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  • dale_forrestb16_ESO
    OP, here is an add-on that keeps track of everything you have sold.

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info616-Shopkeeper-SalesHistoryandAlerts.html

    I didn't read all the responses to your original post so pardon me if this is a duplicate.

    Good luck.
  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    My guess:

    The UI programming in this game was done by people who were not given time to do a proper job, hated the result and hated to be associated with it, and quit the company without documenting their botched rush job. That is why we aren't seeing any improvements. The code is a mess and would need to be rewritten from scratch to make any improvements.

    Like I said, I'm just guessing here, but I think that is a reasonable explanation for the extremely poor UI design and buggy implementation for everything that concerns browsing and management of inventory, bank, guild banks and guild stores. If they have a team who simply can't do better than this, and who cannot fix it even though they are still with the company, those people are completely uneducated in the field of user interface design and need to be replaced with better competent people.

    When your average users can point to several things that are wrong with your UI design, and suggest how it could have been made a lot better with only minimal effort, you did badly.
  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    My guess:

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    When your average users can point to several things that are wrong with your UI design, and suggest how it could have been made a lot better with only minimal effort, you did badly.

    Yep, greatly appreciate the addon writers who fill in the gaps, but to me, addons should be for fun things, or features that go beyond the basic things a UI should provide. Not provide, in many cases, the ACTUAL basic UI.

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  • Iymala
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    2. Sold messages from a successful guild store sale don't tell you what just sold, just the money you received. Nuff said.

    This drives me absolutely insane.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    My guess:

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    When your average users can point to several things that are wrong with your UI design, and suggest how it could have been made a lot better with only minimal effort, you did badly.

    Yep, greatly appreciate the addon writers who fill in the gaps, but to me, addons should be for fun things, or features that go beyond the basic things a UI should provide. Not provide, in many cases, the ACTUAL basic UI.

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    Queue ef tee.

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  • Thralgaf
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    These are all valid issues. I love this game, but sometimes I just can't figure out how so much stuff slipped past the developers. Its also not just the game itself. I recently moved and had to switch to a new internet provider, which meant I also had to switch email addresses. As soon as I got everything set up, I immediately went to my account page to update my email address. Nope..error 500. After trying all the *alleged* workarounds, I finally gave up and figured I would just try it again later. Well, the next day my gaming rig takes a dump. No problem, Ill hook up my backup and play...nope. This computer is not authorized, we have sent you an email with a validation code...no you didn't, because I can't update my email because your website doesn't work. Not a problem, Ill use my iphone to log in and correct the email...nope...this device is not authorized...

    So I finally break down and and call support. No problem sir, we can fix that, I just need your secret question. I don't remember it. Not a problem sir, just log in to the account page and it will be there when you ask to reset your password. I can't get to the account page. Yes you can. No I can't. You had to to set up your account. I know, but suddenly I get an error. What error. Error 500. oh, that's an ISP issue, I would suggest calling your ISP. No, its not an ISP issue...

    It finally got worked out because I asked hin to speak to a supervisior to get permission to just ask me my freaking secret question. The point is, how did all these bugs and contradictory issues not get recognized? The devil, as they say, is in the details.
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