So Clydus, entire topic with your graphomaniac posts against arenas and 40% voters still want it implement in game.
First, most ppl leave game not because of exploits itself, they always exist. Main reason is absolute lack of any reaction time from ZOS to fix those exploits and punish exploiters. Previous 3 months campaign was toped by Bat Swarm exploiters who most likely hold Emperor titles in every campaign for most of the time. This one is oil top.
And about oil, you talk how to beat oil but you are totally wrong. "Disrupt" person on oil, good one, but you think organized oil spots dont have own kd/roots/silence/snare spam hitting everyone coming nearby? And why players should be forced to go somewhere else just because group of ppl decided exploit oil on flat ground in that particular spot? Is it player vs player or oil vs oil now? From EU Auriels Bow experience i can say we have very strong Oildmerii Spaminion, 10/10 top leaderboard are guys who exploit oil 99% time online. And same as before Bat Swarm same now with oil/meatbag catapult ZOS is doing nothing, not even responding they recognize issue, Not to mention outstanding fps drop they give us last week.
Imperator_Clydus wrote: »Nazon_Katts wrote: »While this poll might not deliver any metrics for a direct projection of how many people might really be interested in arenas, we've still seen an over proportional leave of PvPers in this game. It's obvious just by looking at campaign numbers.
Therefore it seems a rather safe assumption, that the sample voting here, does not even draw from the target group, as most of them are gone or may not have touched the game yet.
Under this premise, a third voting for arenas, is probably way less than the true demand for them. So the question is, can they draw players (back) in more easily and better in other ways.
This isn't logical.
For one, I can tell you many in my guild who currently aren't playing and aren't subscribed have voted in this thread. You do not need to be a subscriber or even an active player in ESO to participate in a forum poll.
You should also be asking the question of why many PvPers have left the game. From the ones I've personally talked to, they left because ZOS is failing to fix and resolve the many issues with AvA. It has absolutely nothing to do with wanting an arena.
For those who actually knew what they were buying, they did not purchase this game only to be disappointed there were no arenas. People came here to play AvA, and ZOS has done a terrible job of providing a quality experience. These players are more likely to come back when AvA is working rather than ZOS disregarding it and adding in arenas.
Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »I left because no small scale pvp.. be it ranked arena or WZs we need some instanced small scale pvp, trying to run a small 5 man team around is fun for about 5 mins until the blob runs u over.
Spottswoode wrote: »I'm going to chime in here and say we can have our cake and eat it too in this case. There is little to no reason that arena style pvp and the open war cannot coexist. Moreover, you could add the Emperor Bonus to the factions in arena pvp to incentivize participation in the war. Arguing that one detracts from the other automatically procludes the possibility that they can coexist.
Arena pvp would actually be easy to balance. All it would require is for players to wear Arena gear, as in Oblivion. With a standardized uniform set, that levels with the player, there really isn't any reason that the gameplay can't be balanced. You could even go so far as to require players to register a role prior to matches. The matches could compete for honor points and rank in the Arena (Grandchampion(s) being the top rank in the Arena) and you could even make it a faction for faction benefits. You could even have PVE arena matches (to balance it out) for money and exp.
Honestly, I'd like something in pvp other than getting ganked by any wandering group in my faction's territory.
That would be really cool, have Arena like a stadium type thing where not only would there be standard NPC's as an "audience" but players could go in and watch too (without being able to help or hinder the event). They could even add gambling to the mix, betting on which team would be victorious. TES games and ESO already have these types of scripted events in the games why not give it an added flair by having player based Arenas with these mechanics too.Lava_Croft wrote: »I want arenas merely because while Cyrodiil is my preferred way of PvP, it's hardly a controlled environment where one can measure each other in combat, like an arena.
I hope that any arena will allow live spectators.
That would be really cool, have Arena like a stadium type thing where not only would there be standard NPC's as an "audience" but players could go in and watch too (without being able to help or hinder the event). They could even add gambling to the mix, betting on which team would be victorious. TES games and ESO already have these types of scripted events in the games why not give it an added flair by having player based Arenas with these mechanics too.Lava_Croft wrote: »I want arenas merely because while Cyrodiil is my preferred way of PvP, it's hardly a controlled environment where one can measure each other in combat, like an arena.
I hope that any arena will allow live spectators.
Skafsgaard wrote: »Lag free pvp with no trains guarenteed - you kiddin! Who wouldn't like that?!
Tintinabula wrote: »I have perfected the art of being bad and therefore do not like the idea of allowing the world in on my super secrets of being terrubul in an awesome kind of way.
the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »No, not until we have a lot more fixes for cyro. Also, I don't want people taken away from cyro, at least not all the time. I wouldn't be against 'arena tournaments' twice a week or something though
ESO is not WoW. I love this fact. I love large scale pvp with all the mindless serving and small groups of really good players that come with it. We do not need arenas, we need them to build on an already awesome pvp set up by adding new objectives and perhaps even a second campaign map. We deffo don't need arena, that, as the op said, is just fotm ***.
Skafsgaard wrote: »ESO is not WoW. I love this fact. I love large scale pvp with all the mindless serving and small groups of really good players that come with it. We do not need arenas, we need them to build on an already awesome pvp set up by adding new objectives and perhaps even a second campaign map. We deffo don't need arena, that, as the op said, is just fotm ***.
Arenas has nothing to do with WoW. I like PvP. All kinds. Small scale, large scale, AvA and 1v1. Why we cannot have options beats me, see my previous replies.