Because they're not VR12 with legendary gear and they lack the capacity to sympathize with others and reason for a middle ground.Road2insanity777 wrote: »2 extra levels adds nothing to the game and forces everyone to blow up ever bit of gear they have worked for in the past months.. How is anyone NOT pissed????
Road2insanity777 wrote: »2 extra levels adds nothing to the game and forces everyone to blow up ever bit of gear they have worked for in the past months.. How is anyone NOT pissed????
Maverick827 wrote: »Because they're not VR12 with legendary gear and they lack the capacity to sympathize with others and reason for a middle ground.Road2insanity777 wrote: »2 extra levels adds nothing to the game and forces everyone to blow up ever bit of gear they have worked for in the past months.. How is anyone NOT pissed????
Maverick827 wrote: »Because they're not VR12 with legendary gear and they lack the capacity to sympathize with others and reason for a middle ground.Road2insanity777 wrote: »2 extra levels adds nothing to the game and forces everyone to blow up ever bit of gear they have worked for in the past months.. How is anyone NOT pissed????
Wow, if you and others had bother to actually pay attention to the hints the game gave you would have known the max level was going to hit VR14. The bosses in Vet CoH are VR14, the glyphs went to VR14.
I had wonderful gear in SW:TOR last year November, then they released content for raiders a few weeks after getting all the gear I needed and guess what, the gear changed. My great gear turned into okay gear. It caused me to regrind stuff to get new gear.
How is this any different? They raised the cap from VR10 to VR12 with the very first update. Three updates later, they're upping it again.
The hint were in Craglorn to let us know, the max level was going up again. I thought it was going to happen with update two, but it's update four.
The difference between purple and gold gear is one or two points. Nothing worth crying about.
Road2insanity777 wrote: »2 extra levels adds nothing to the game and forces everyone to blow up ever bit of gear they have worked for in the past months.. How is anyone NOT pissed????
Is this your first MMO?
With every new raid tier your old gear becomes obsolete and is often sold at vendors.
This isn't anything new but the big plus for ZO is that the difference is almost not noticeable between VR 12 and VR 14 stats.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »The difference that you people seem obsessed with ignoring is that 2 vr levels every 2 month is just too fast. I mean I don't want vet ranks to begin with, but frequent small increases cause a never-ending gear grind, a huge money sink in a game packed with money sinks, and added to things like bad grouping tools and phasing making the content unplayable for most people (since all they are releasing is group content,) or the very minuscule increase to exp they gave pvp'rs, people are going to be frustrated, yes.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »The difference that you people seem obsessed with ignoring is that 2 vr levels every 2 month is just too fast. I mean I don't want vet ranks to begin with, but frequent small increases cause a never-ending gear grind, a huge money sink in a game packed with money sinks, and added to things like bad grouping tools and phasing making the content unplayable for most people (since all they are releasing is group content,) or the very minuscule increase to exp they gave pvp'rs, people are going to be frustrated, yes.
except that's not the way it was suppose to be, v14 wasn't suppose to come out so soon but with all the crying over vr lvls being boring or too hard or whatever they cried about zeni decided to redo it with champion. so they already had v14 in the works so instead of scrapping it they release it early to give you something to do while you wait for the new champ system.
Can all of you who rushed to VR12 to do nothing but complain about changes to your uber builds because you burned yourself out on grinding and now can't even fathom playing the game to raise lvls/gear anymore please just unsub already. Let the rest of us get back to enjoying these forums.
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Can all of you who rushed to VR12 to do nothing but complain about changes to your uber builds because you burned yourself out on grinding and now can't even fathom playing the game to raise lvls/gear anymore please just unsub already. Let the rest of us get back to enjoying these forums.
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the game's been out for what, four months? No one rushed anywhere. Just because people didn't crawl to their destination doesn't mean they rushed.
I don't appreciate being painted with such a broad brush stroke, since I haven't burned myself out. I'm enjoying the hell out of pvp. However, I can't get gear or levels effectively pvp'ing, which is what I want to play.
Nor would I be able to get the groups to do the group content for craglorn lower or upper even if I did want to do the new content.
But let's ignore that and just flame people instead.
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »The difference that you people seem obsessed with ignoring is that 2 vr levels every 2 month is just too fast. I mean I don't want vet ranks to begin with, but frequent small increases cause a never-ending gear grind, a huge money sink in a game packed with money sinks, and added to things like bad grouping tools and phasing making the content unplayable for most people (since all they are releasing is group content,) or the very minuscule increase to exp they gave pvp'rs, people are going to be frustrated, yes.
except that's not the way it was suppose to be, v14 wasn't suppose to come out so soon but with all the crying over vr lvls being boring or too hard or whatever they cried about zeni decided to redo it with champion. so they already had v14 in the works so instead of scrapping it they release it early to give you something to do while you wait for the new champ system.
You act like I wanted that or ever requested. I am not in that camp.
No control over? This isn't some cosmic force, it's a decision that people made and can easily be changed. We have the ability to voice our concerns and vote with our wallets, like we did with the Twilight and Seducer set change in 1.3.smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Can all of you who rushed to VR12 to do nothing but complain about changes to your uber builds because you burned yourself out on grinding and now can't even fathom playing the game to raise lvls/gear anymore please just unsub already. Let the rest of us get back to enjoying these forums.
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the game's been out for what, four months? No one rushed anywhere. Just because people didn't crawl to their destination doesn't mean they rushed.
I don't appreciate being painted with such a broad brush stroke, since I haven't burned myself out. I'm enjoying the hell out of pvp. However, I can't get gear or levels effectively pvp'ing, which is what I want to play.
Nor would I be able to get the groups to do the group content for craglorn lower or upper even if I did want to do the new content.
But let's ignore that and just flame people instead.
Your clearly not apart of the group I'm speaking of....and I'm not ignoring the issues. I simply do the adult thing and recognize them for what they are and move on....no use pining over something that you have no control over is my point. just move on....
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »The difference that you people seem obsessed with ignoring is that 2 vr levels every 2 month is just too fast. I mean I don't want vet ranks to begin with, but frequent small increases cause a never-ending gear grind, a huge money sink in a game packed with money sinks, and added to things like bad grouping tools and phasing making the content unplayable for most people (since all they are releasing is group content,) or the very minuscule increase to exp they gave pvp'rs, people are going to be frustrated, yes.
Then why bother doing it? Why go ahead with something that you've already acknowledged is so hated that you had to rush and implement an entirely new system to replace it with?bosmern_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »The difference that you people seem obsessed with ignoring is that 2 vr levels every 2 month is just too fast. I mean I don't want vet ranks to begin with, but frequent small increases cause a never-ending gear grind, a huge money sink in a game packed with money sinks, and added to things like bad grouping tools and phasing making the content unplayable for most people (since all they are releasing is group content,) or the very minuscule increase to exp they gave pvp'rs, people are going to be frustrated, yes.
You're acting as if the Champion system was cancelled. This could very well be the last time Veteran levels rise and everyone is put to level 50.
Post like yours always have a fatal flaw .. you use the word everyone when patently not 'everyone' is of the same mind.bosmern_ESO wrote: »When the game first came out everyone was complaining how stupid it was to Soft cap V10 and not have all levels able to achieve (this would've spelt disaster for future content release) and they wanted it to go till V50.
Now everyone complains when Zenimax increases the levels by 2? Make up your mind people, you should have known the levels would increase sometime between now and Champion system. If you have all gold armor and gold enchants on that armor then there shouldn't be any complaint, when you go into the new zone you'll have gear better then most V13 and be close to V14 armor if you are that stubborn to get new gear.
This happens all the time when a MMO gets and expansion and raises the max level, I don't know why its so much of a surprise that it happens with ESO.
bosmern_ESO wrote: »When the game first came out everyone was complaining how stupid it was to Soft cap V10 and not have all levels able to achieve (this would've spelt disaster for future content release) and they wanted it to go till V50.
Now everyone complains when Zenimax increases the levels by 2? Make up your mind people, you should have known the levels would increase sometime between now and Champion system. If you have all gold armor and gold enchants on that armor then there shouldn't be any complaint, when you go into the new zone you'll have gear better then most V13 and be close to V14 armor if you are that stubborn to get new gear.
This happens all the time when a MMO gets and expansion and raises the max level, I don't know why its so much of a surprise that it happens with ESO.
fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »Post like yours always have a fatal flaw .. you use the word everyone when patently not 'everyone' is of the same mind.bosmern_ESO wrote: »When the game first came out everyone was complaining how stupid it was to Soft cap V10 and not have all levels able to achieve (this would've spelt disaster for future content release) and they wanted it to go till V50.
Now everyone complains when Zenimax increases the levels by 2? Make up your mind people, you should have known the levels would increase sometime between now and Champion system. If you have all gold armor and gold enchants on that armor then there shouldn't be any complaint, when you go into the new zone you'll have gear better then most V13 and be close to V14 armor if you are that stubborn to get new gear.
This happens all the time when a MMO gets and expansion and raises the max level, I don't know why its so much of a surprise that it happens with ESO.
Also, you call these content updates are expansions, they're not, a common term for these are 'free content updates'. All MMOs have them periodically as far as I know, but no other on-line game I play (currently 6) raises level caps with such updates every two or three months.
That's why it's a huge surprise and unwelcome for many, it isn't how MMOPs are expected to deal with character progression. Gear obsolescence at each expansion is expected, if not always willingly, but these patches are nothing like expansions.
bosmern_ESO wrote: »When the game first came out everyone was complaining how stupid it was to Soft cap V10 and not have all levels able to achieve (this would've spelt disaster for future content release) and they wanted it to go till V50.
Now everyone complains when Zenimax increases the levels by 2? Make up your mind people, you should have known the levels would increase sometime between now and Champion system. If you have all gold armor and gold enchants on that armor then there shouldn't be any complaint, when you go into the new zone you'll have gear better then most V13 and be close to V14 armor if you are that stubborn to get new gear.
This happens all the time when a MMO gets and expansion and raises the max level, I don't know why its so much of a surprise that it happens with ESO.
1. You are talking about a Hard Cap where once you hit it, /end. With a Soft Cap, you can go over but there is usually Diminishing Returns.
2. People are complaining because we were told Vet Ranks would be eliminated for Champion Levels. This caused many people to craft Golden Gear from mats they have saved since DAY ONE. Now they are being told in about a month they have to make new gear; literally RIGHT AFTER the Gear Changes that were made.
3. The reason people are complaining is because in most MMO's when "New Lands" come in with New Gear, Levels, Etc., it happens about 2x/year or 1x/year. This gives you time to reach the top, advance horizontally and experience the endgame feeling like a hero. Then after you have had more than ample time to enjoy and experience everything, the update comes.
In ESO, we have already had 3 such updates and the game hasn't even been out for 8 months. People don't want to engage a 100% Vertical Climb. Many just want to reach the top and advance Horizontally. Adding more Vertical Climbing isn't a bad thing, but its about timing. It feels like once you hit the top you only get to enjoy it for a couple months before the ceiling is lifted.
bosmern_ESO wrote: »
So what you're telling me is that you want to wait a year for Patch 1.4? do you really think there is currently enough content to hold you over for a year? Right now you either do Trails or Cyrodiil endgame, and just running those two things for a straight year would make everyone quit.
ZOS needs to have frequent updates for the first year maybe two, just to keep people playing. After they rapidly pump out updates they will begin to slow down the process and make the time between each update larger. Mainly because there will already be enough content in game to keep people playing and still anticipate the next updates.
Can all of you who rushed to VR12 to do nothing but complain about changes to your uber builds because you burned yourself out on grinding and now can't even fathom playing the game to raise lvls/gear anymore please just unsub already. Let the rest of us get back to enjoying these forums.
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they think they're special for rushing to end game to get best gear then come to find out they're not that special at all