Looking for Group Tool

two_beer · July 2014

Is the ingame tool broken or are there truly no people looking for a group?

I have tried as a healer, a tank, and dps to group at low level to do the dungeons when I'm at the appropriate level, but there is nothing going on - at best I get 1 or 2 other dps after many minutes (even hours one patient night) of waiting.

There has to be more than 3 people at level 11-16 trying to do the dungeons.

zmanu · July 2014

Nobody uses it, mostly because it works poorly.

Natjur · July 2014

It tries to put 1 healer, 1 tank and 2 dps together, but as no one want to Tank and few want to heal, so it does not group many people.

Now if you marked yourself as a tank & healer, it will full a group very fast.

They need to add a LFG channel that is based on level, not zone. Lots of V12's want to do fast vet dungeon runs for the achievements but its hard to get a V12 only run without spamming different zones.

I have a tank armor set and a healer armor set so I don't have that many issues getting groups (as a Templar, I don't really have a DPS set), but its hard to do the vet dungeon achievements when the only groups you can get with the LFG tool is V1-V2 players.

two_beer wrote: »

There has to be more than 3 people at level 11-16 trying to do the dungeons.

Most around that level have no idea their is even a LFG tool. Just spam the zone chat of the zone with the dungeon in you want to do.

sajackson · July 2014

They really do need to revamp the LFG tool because it is one of the most baffling features in the game right now.

Cody · July 2014

once had to wait 2 hours to find a group for a dungeon(which we could not do if I recall:/) I think the problems, are that many people don't even know the tool exists(saw vet level players that did not know it existed:() and that it is just bad.

zgrssd · July 2014

The waiting times seem absolutely normal for me, when comparing it to any other MMO.
If I try anything but the main hours, I will have a hard time finding a full group, but this is also to be expected.

You just need to know wich roles you can play (and check them properly) and wich roles you need to be filled (and check them properly when filling a 2+ group) and it works like a charm.

That it create partial groups:
This is a two edged sword.
On the one hand this allows you to invite a missing 4th player by asking for it in /zone chat.
I often got a 3/4 group from GF with the last spot being filled manually. Or was the 4th person that reacted to a /zone message.
On the other hand it might end up creating a 2 DPS group and a Healer + Tank group by accident, never cimbining both too a single group.

If ther is anything they need to change, it is the ability to queue for more then one dungeon on the same level at once.
Especially when I recently unlocked a tier I do not care *wich* dungeon I am doing. As long as it is any of the three/two I have not done yet.

That and maybe add a "2 person group finder" for Public Dungeons. I always have issues finding someone for those.

Kego · July 2014

Up to Level 40 I had no issues with finding a group for Dungeons.
Now with 43 it gets tougher. Trying to do those 3 Dungeons now for 2 Days and only managed to get 2 groups running. (with one bugged Dungeon, cause boss bugged out during invisible Phase...)

Biggest problem in Eso, that other MMOs does not have is the missing incentive for repeating them. Until now I run through every Dungeon just once for the Quest and it's Skillpoint as well as the achievement.

There for I can't blame anyone for not beeing interesstet in Dungeon runs and with the knowledge that Tanks an Healer are always a minor player base let a lot Player in ESO out in ever completing some Dungeons. (Well I'm glad that I have a Tank specc for those 3 Dungeons every 10 Level)

Nestor · July 2014

I have much better luck sending out a /zone and asking for a PUG or Group for a dungeon. Send the message out, 5 to 10 minutes later, there are several people who show up. Now, it could be that they would have showed up anyway. But I have just waited without the chat blast and not gotten near as many folks showing up.

I think it must resonate with those who are puttering around in the game going "Hmm, what to do next?" then they see the /zone request and think, "Hey, lets go do the Vile Manse" because they know others will be there.

Anthony_Arndt · August 2014

It is the worst grouping tool I've ever encountered. So far, from levels 10-30 you are allowed to queue for dungeons that are 2-4 levels too high for you but once you actually get to the point of being the right level for a dungeon you have 1 level before you are considered "too high" to queue for it. So even if you do get a group with the group finder, you will probably all be too low-level for the content you are queueing for.

Case in point, you can queue for the level 12-15 dungeons at level 10. You will die horribly and take your group down with you at level 10 but you can queue for it. But once you hit level 16 you cannot queue for it. You can, however queue for the level 21 dungeons in the next zone. You won't be able to complete those either, but you can queue for them. Now I'm level 26 and I can't queue for any of the dungeons in my level, but I can queue for the level 28-30 dungeons. Though I'm pretty sure I'd get my group wiped if I did.

Morrighan_Ravenborn · August 2014

Well I have to agree that the grouping tool is useless. I have spent hours waiting while the little searching icon spins and I have never yet gotten into a dungeon with it. I play 2 other MMOs and usually get in within minutes, and at the very worst 20 minutes.

The only way I've managed so far to do a dungeon is to wait at the door & get invites manually.

I notice also that there are dungeons to be done (given by Undaunted) in the different alliances and there is no instruction on how to get there, even if I could manage to join a group. Even so, with the grouping tool not working it is impossible for me to do those dungeons as no way to get to the entrance.

Not only does it not seem to work, but it is very confusing just how it is supposed to work.

Natjur · August 2014

Morrighan_Ravenborn wrote: »

I notice also that there are dungeons to be done (given by Undaunted) in the different alliances and there is no instruction on how to get there, even if I could manage to join a group. Even so, with the grouping tool not working it is impossible for me to do those dungeons as no way to get to the entrance.

Once you complete the dungeon for your alliance (complete the quest) the other two alliance dungeons of the same level appear on your map so you can directly port to them and do them. But only one member needs to do this, the rest can just port directly to that player once they have zoned in

The biggest issues with the LFG tool, is only DPS seem to be using it, but without a tank or a healer, the LFG tool will be scanning forever. Each group need 1 tank, 1 healer and 2 dps before it will group you. Try marking yourself as tank, healer & dps and it should pop in seconds.

When I was doing the lower level dungeons, I found it easier just to ask in the zone chat for other players, you will be surprised how many players don't even know there IS a LFG tool.

Enodoc · August 2014

Natjur wrote: »

Morrighan_Ravenborn wrote: »

I notice also that there are dungeons to be done (given by Undaunted) in the different alliances and there is no instruction on how to get there, even if I could manage to join a group. Even so, with the grouping tool not working it is impossible for me to do those dungeons as no way to get to the entrance.

Once you complete the dungeon for your alliance (complete the quest) the other two alliance dungeons of the same level appear on your map so you can directly port to them and do them. But only one member needs to do this, the rest can just port directly to that player once they have zoned in

As long as you have talked to the Undaunted, you don't even need to have done the one in your alliance. You can port there directly as soon as the Undaunted tell you about them.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · August 2014

it doesn't seem to be working very well, even searching people for veteran dung can take easilly an hour, and no its not because theres little tanks/healers, also looking for dps takes forever.
best bet is to let the search run, and also spam mapchat, ask guildies, and hope you get lucky