Improving lower level gear...

nerevarine1138 · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Name one level-based MMO that doesn't consistently offer new gear.

Because TES is suppose to be like every other MMO right? I don't remember any gear in TES ever having levels. The quality of the item determined its strength, but the items were never level locked in TES.

Because the Elder Scrolls series was single-player up to this point, and it really wasn't level-based. Character levels simply existed to provide a sense of progression, but they weren't meaningful in the game as a whole.

Just for the record, this thread started as you asking an inane question about upgrading level 1 gear, and it's finally gotten to the point you were actually trying to make: you don't like MMO gear mechanics. If you had just started with this, the thread would have been a lot shorter.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Character levels simply existed to provide a sense of progression, but they weren't meaningful in the game as a whole.

And an MMO can't be this way?

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Just for the record, this thread started as you asking an inane question about upgrading level 1 gear, and it's finally gotten to the point you were actually trying to make: you don't like MMO gear mechanics. If you had just started with this, the thread would have been a lot shorter.

I thought there might be a reason I overlooked for why we can improve low level gear, but there isn't. It's a pointless waste of time.

nerevarine1138 · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Character levels simply existed to provide a sense of progression, but they weren't meaningful in the game as a whole.

And an MMO can't be this way?

A sandbox MMO can, but that's a fairly niche genre. The developers were very up-front about ESO having leveled content for months before the game was released. So why is this only now bothering you?

SFBryan18 · August 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Character levels simply existed to provide a sense of progression, but they weren't meaningful in the game as a whole.

And an MMO can't be this way?

A sandbox MMO can, but that's a fairly niche genre. The developers were very up-front about ESO having leveled content for months before the game was released. So why is this only now bothering you?

It was a bad decision then. I'm not allowed to call attention to a bad decision just because time has passed? And perhaps the game can be improved beyond this stupid system. Have you heard the rumor that all VR gear might eventually be equivalent to level 50? So why can't we increase the level of lower level gear to level 50? Gives us more options for what we can wear. On a forum, you discuss, and that's what I'm doing. Stop trying to end my thread just because you can't comprehend a possible change to the armor level system.

Nestor · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Pointless meaning the gear at the next level bracket will make any improvements obsolete so it's a waste of materials.

This whole improvement system is a waste of time.

Do you even Craft? If so, then you would see things differently. I just made a set of L4 Gear for my L4 Alt I just created, traited all 7 pieces with Training and improved it to Green. Why? Because now I don't have to make a set of gear for him until L8. And, he will skyrocket in Armor Levels giving me access to important passives sooner in the character leveling.

It is not a waste of time to improve low level gear, if it fits the plan you have for your character. Did I improve the L1 gear I made him? No, I just made that set to kick start the Armor Leveling (because you have a bunch of easy quests completing as soon as you land in the game)

Later on, when the Alt gets into the Teens in level, the gear will be improved to Blue, but I will still only make a new set every 4 levels. I get more than enough tempers deconstructing in between.

So, Improving Armor saves me time and effort in the long run.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Pointless meaning the gear at the next level bracket will make any improvements obsolete so it's a waste of materials.

This whole improvement system is a waste of time.

Do you even Craft? If so, then you would see things differently. I just made a set of L4 Gear for my L4 Alt I just created, traited all 7 pieces with Training and improved it to Green. Why? Because now I don't have to make a set of gear for him until L8. And, he will skyrocket in Armor Levels giving me access to important passives sooner in the character leveling.

It is not a waste of time to improve low level gear, if it fits the plan you have for your character. Did I improve the L1 gear I made him? No, I just made that set to kick start the Armor Leveling (because you have a bunch of easy quests completing as soon as you land in the game)

Later on, when the Alt gets into the Teens in level, the gear will be improved to Blue, but I will still only make a new set every 4 levels. I get more than enough tempers deconstructing in between.

So, Improving Armor saves me time and effort in the long run.

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Nestor · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

nerevarine1138 · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

I can't even...

This thread asked a ridiculous (and rhetorical) question so that you could make a completely unrelated (and wrong) point.

And to answer your prior question: no. You don't get get to complain about the genre of a game. That's like whining that Starcraft isn't an FPS or that COD should have more role-playing opportunities. You knew full well what kind of game you were buying when you got this, and you don't get to demand that the developers change it to an entirely different genre of game. Of all the ridiculous ways that you could have gone about getting to this point, this thread's "question" has to take the grand prize.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

I can't even...

This thread asked a ridiculous (and rhetorical) question so that you could make a completely unrelated (and wrong) point.

And to answer your prior question: no. You don't get get to complain about the genre of a game. That's like whining that Starcraft isn't an FPS or that COD should have more role-playing opportunities. You knew full well what kind of game you were buying when you got this, and you don't get to demand that the developers change it to an entirely different genre of game. Of all the ridiculous ways that you could have gone about getting to this point, this thread's "question" has to take the grand prize.

I don't get to complain? Smh. It's called freedom. You're just a hypocrite who complains about complaints.

daneyulebub17_ESO · August 2014

What is low level gear, anyway? Where's the cut off? Below 50? Below 20? What?

I could see very slow levelers, or RP'ers, definitely improving their low level gear as they plan to be at or near that level for long periods.

I also see very rich people buying crafted low level, but very improved, armor for their alts because they can. I have a crafting alt--don't plan on leveling him very high, but sure--if I had the money right now, he'd be wearing legendary level 12 armor. He deserves it for all that work!

And for the novelty of it, I sure could see some people making legendary 1 armor.

Not sure what the point of the op is, other than to suggest arbitrary limitations to the crafting system for no reason.

UrQuan · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

Nestor · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

OK, I will make a set of Legendary at Level 1 for an Alt that I make in the future. Happy now?

And why would I do this? Because I can.

When will I do this? Once I get a character slot open, so sometime in the future.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

OK, I will make a set of Legendary at Level 1 for an Alt that I make in the future. Happy now?

And why would I do this? Because I can.

When will I do this? Once I get a character slot open, so sometime in the future.

When you do it, come back to this thread and post some screenshots.

UrQuan · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

And the thread title is "Improving lower level gear", and many times in the thread you've been talking about "low level gear" rather than specifically level 1 gear. Either way, it doesn't matter. You created this thread specifically to bolster the opinions you already held. You were never interested in hearing from anyone else unless they agreed with you.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

And the thread title is "Improving lower level gear", and many times in the thread you've been talking about "low level gear" rather than specifically level 1 gear. Either way, it doesn't matter. You created this thread specifically to bolster the opinions you already held. You were never interested in hearing from anyone else unless they agreed with you.

My original intent changed when the replies I got didn't understand my point. The op was what I originally intended. If you're going to tell me what I'm thinking, then you'd know what I want to say next.

UrQuan · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

And the thread title is "Improving lower level gear", and many times in the thread you've been talking about "low level gear" rather than specifically level 1 gear. Either way, it doesn't matter. You created this thread specifically to bolster the opinions you already held. You were never interested in hearing from anyone else unless they agreed with you.

My original intent changed when the replies I got didn't understand my point. The op was what I originally intended. If you're going to tell me what I'm thinking, then you'd know what I want to say next.

Your posts in this thread demonstrate clearly that you're only interested in maintaining your opinion and looking for more support for it. This entire thread is a pointless exercise in intellectual dishonesty.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

And the thread title is "Improving lower level gear", and many times in the thread you've been talking about "low level gear" rather than specifically level 1 gear. Either way, it doesn't matter. You created this thread specifically to bolster the opinions you already held. You were never interested in hearing from anyone else unless they agreed with you.

My original intent changed when the replies I got didn't understand my point. The op was what I originally intended. If you're going to tell me what I'm thinking, then you'd know what I want to say next.

Your posts in this thread demonstrate clearly that you're only interested in maintaining your opinion and looking for more support for it. This entire thread is a pointless exercise in intellectual dishonesty.

K. Report it then. I just wanted to know if there was a point to having low level legendary sets.

In fact, I originally wanted to know if they existed to begin with. You mad bro?

AlnilamE · August 2014

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Pointless meaning the gear at the next level bracket will make any improvements obsolete so it's a waste of materials.

This whole improvement system is a waste of time.

Do you even Craft? If so, then you would see things differently. I just made a set of L4 Gear for my L4 Alt I just created, traited all 7 pieces with Training and improved it to Green. Why? Because now I don't have to make a set of gear for him until L8. And, he will skyrocket in Armor Levels giving me access to important passives sooner in the character leveling.

It is not a waste of time to improve low level gear, if it fits the plan you have for your character. Did I improve the L1 gear I made him? No, I just made that set to kick start the Armor Leveling (because you have a bunch of easy quests completing as soon as you land in the game)

Later on, when the Alt gets into the Teens in level, the gear will be improved to Blue, but I will still only make a new set every 4 levels. I get more than enough tempers deconstructing in between.

So, Improving Armor saves me time and effort in the long run.

That's pretty much what I do too. My level 10 alt just got a full set of blue armor/weapons and my level 3 has a level 4 green set waiting for her to hit that.

There's no point on sitting on stacks of improvers when they can help your characters.

FlyingPenguin · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

FlyingPenguin wrote: »

Not point less they allow you to do as you want in crafting and improving for most part. If it makes your journey easier then go for it have fun don't restrict your play style to what others think is a waste. As it is to them does not mean it actually is. Legendary your beginner and have fun with a easier first 10 lvls enjoy the power!!!

Pointless meaning the gear at the next level bracket will make any improvements obsolete so it's a waste of materials. Instead of being able to increase our gears level and keep the quality, we are forced to throw it away and start from scratch.

There is a point. It's a time sink. That's all. And the starting point in this never ending sink shows exactly what happens in the end, no one ever improves any gear that isn't top level, so the entire improvement system is only important at the top level. Until the player reaches it, they just hoard their stuff. This is why so many get mad when their top level gear gets bump down to second class. At some point, you want to get stuff that you won't have to throw away.

This whole improvement system is a waste of time.

All depends on how you look at it. Some don't want to waste mats and that's fine. But if your having trouble in the game or with a boss then improving gear can give you that edge you need to win. You can always get for mats. Now if we where limited then yes it mite be a waste but mats are every where and unlimited. So improving has plenary of benefits. Sure at the start you not out lvl it fast. But meh enjoy the game I would want my alt or main as strong as possible through out the entire game. Not just when I hit max. But I guess some don't have the time or gold to keep up. And that's understandable. Sure I wish it was like skyrims but then again at times I'm glad it's not. I don't rush this game so if me having to collect new mats for next set then so be it. Not to hard to do. Personally I have stacks of all improvement mats cause I'm a merchant on one alt.

UrQuan · August 2014

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

And the thread title is "Improving lower level gear", and many times in the thread you've been talking about "low level gear" rather than specifically level 1 gear. Either way, it doesn't matter. You created this thread specifically to bolster the opinions you already held. You were never interested in hearing from anyone else unless they agreed with you.

My original intent changed when the replies I got didn't understand my point. The op was what I originally intended. If you're going to tell me what I'm thinking, then you'd know what I want to say next.

Your posts in this thread demonstrate clearly that you're only interested in maintaining your opinion and looking for more support for it. This entire thread is a pointless exercise in intellectual dishonesty.

K. Report it then. I just wanted to know if there was a point to having low level legendary sets.

In fact, I originally wanted to know if they existed to begin with. You mad bro?

Last I checked a thread being incredibly stupid, and created under false pretense, wasn't reportable. And of course, the last resort of the failed troll "you mad bro?"

No. Just disappointed in you.

SFBryan18 · August 2014

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Not really. The game can be played easily without these improvements.

Then why are you complaining about chasing gear then if you recognize that? You have two threads whining about chasing gear in this game and how pointless it is, and then you say that gear does not matter. If it does not matter to you, then stop worrying about it. As you say, it does not matter.

It's one thing to like to debate and discuss things. What your doing is another thing entirely.

This thread asks why the low level legendary gear exists. It's a completely different discussion from my other thread.

And you immediately dismiss any answer to that question as meaningless and useless. You're not interested in hearing anything other than your own opinion. You created this thread purely to justify the opinions you already hold, not to have any meaningful discussion.

I've got a lot of alts. I've also got a lot of crafting tempers (the two go hand in hand - my alts weren't created specifically to use crafting hirelings, but I've spent skill points on hirelings for all of them). I craft gear for all 16 of my characters. When I craft that gear, I use crafted sets, and I always improve it all to a minimum of green level. That allows me to easily go 4 levels with really good gear before I start to feel like I should make a new set. The more I improve the gear, the more levels I can go before I feel like I should craft a new set. Additionally, depending on the traits I'm putting on the gear, sometimes I'll have an additional incentive to improve it. Trying to level heavy armour on an alt that's only wearing 1 piece of it? Put the Training trait on it and improve it to blue or purple. You'll level it in no time.

So yes, despite your preconceived notions there are reasons to upgrade lower level gear.

This thread specifically asked if anyone will make a level 1 legendary set. If you're not going to do that, then what you do is irrelevant.

And the thread title is "Improving lower level gear", and many times in the thread you've been talking about "low level gear" rather than specifically level 1 gear. Either way, it doesn't matter. You created this thread specifically to bolster the opinions you already held. You were never interested in hearing from anyone else unless they agreed with you.

My original intent changed when the replies I got didn't understand my point. The op was what I originally intended. If you're going to tell me what I'm thinking, then you'd know what I want to say next.

Your posts in this thread demonstrate clearly that you're only interested in maintaining your opinion and looking for more support for it. This entire thread is a pointless exercise in intellectual dishonesty.

K. Report it then. I just wanted to know if there was a point to having low level legendary sets.

In fact, I originally wanted to know if they existed to begin with. You mad bro?

Last I checked a thread being incredibly stupid, and created under false pretense, wasn't reportable. And of course, the last resort of the failed troll "you mad bro?"

No. Just disappointed in you.

You sound mad. The question started as one thing and turned into another. It happens. Whatever. I wish I could lock this thread because I can't shut the email notifications off.

traigusb14_ESO2 · August 2014

Don't forget art-reuse.

Every unused (by us) look may be on an NPC someplace... so not "wasted" as such

Legendary level 1 cold harbor prison gear may be "imprisoned royalty robes" used by skeleton casters or locked up kings.

Some of the disguises are at least partially kinda rare lower level crafted (some are made from parts of multiple sets).

A friend of mine tried to recreate one of the cultist costumes in beta and found that to match the colors she had to make the chest purple quality crafted of a level 15ish robe (She couldn't actually make the disguise at the time because it had pants, and we couldn't just craft shirts at that point, but the devs could dress NPCs with split looks).