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Would you like to see small scale PvP?
UnholyPerfection
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I'm sick of playing open world PvP were 1 faction is always steam rolling the other 2 just because of numbers. I would love to see some smaller maybe 40v40 or even less objective based PvP so skill actually players a role and you feel like you're actually contributing as an individual not a part of a AoE zerg.
Edited by UnholyPerfection on August 19, 2014 1:48AM Would you like to see small scale PvP? 214 votes
Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.
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138 votes
No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.
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Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.Yes, an arena. Nothing else.Sanguine's Beta Tester7 -
Maleficus✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.4 on 4, 2 on 2 and dueling.. yes sir4 -
ThatHappyCat✭✭✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.Yes but 40v40 isn't exactly what I have in mind with "smaller scale".4 -
Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.ThatHappyCat wrote: »Yes but 40v40 isn't exactly what I have in mind with "smaller scale".
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.Your pool answers are ... quite few and limited i would say.
Personally im happy with cyro , at most i could consider playing in BGs that had also lots of player inside at the same time playing with neat objectives , but i wouldnt play in arenas and such with few players.
Always found PvP with few players in MMOs to be boring.
Still i dont have something that goes directly against them adding outside balance issues that arenas always bring. IF zen adds them right , maybe even making them like GW2 where all their gear and balance is divided from the rest of the game , i wouldnt mind the devs adding them.
If they dont , then we will have 10 times the amount of balance issues threads we have today , the current balance is NOT at ALL made for small group fights.Edited by Nox_Aeterna on August 19, 2014 2:00AM"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Anvos✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.Personally I think it would be interesting and make it feel more like the Continental War this is supposed to be if there were a few skirmish/battle maps for large group vs large group that had short duration like maybe some of the classic capture the flag and point destruction.3
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ExiledKhallisi✭✭✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.WTB 1v1 pvp arena too.
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UnholyPerfection✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.ThatHappyCat wrote: »Yes but 40v40 isn't exactly what I have in mind with "smaller scale".
Yes I know but a good range of population is always good, keeps everyone happy.
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ravenhartb14_ESO✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.The entire PVP system needs looking at if it is going to be a viable playstyle. In theory, it's great... but only in theory.1
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UnholyPerfection✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Your pool answers are ... quite few and limited i would say.
Personally im happy with cyro , at most i could consider playing in BGs that had also lots of player inside at the same time playing with neat objectives , but i wouldnt play in arenas and such with few players.
Always found PvP with few players in MMOs to be boring.
Still i dont have something that goes directly against them adding outside balance issues that arenas always bring. IF zen adds them right , maybe even making them like GW2 where all their gear and balance is divided from the rest of the game , i wouldnt mind the devs adding them.
If they dont , then we will have 10 times the amount of balance issues threads we have today , the current balance is NOT at ALL made for small group fights.
It's really a yes or no question?1 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.UnholyPerfection wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Your pool answers are ... quite few and limited i would say.
Personally im happy with cyro , at most i could consider playing in BGs that had also lots of player inside at the same time playing with neat objectives , but i wouldnt play in arenas and such with few players.
Always found PvP with few players in MMOs to be boring.
Still i dont have something that goes directly against them adding outside balance issues that arenas always bring. IF zen adds them right , maybe even making them like GW2 where all their gear and balance is divided from the rest of the game , i wouldnt mind the devs adding them.
If they dont , then we will have 10 times the amount of balance issues threads we have today , the current balance is NOT at ALL made for small group fights.
It's really a yes or no question?
"Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP."
No i would not personally , im happy playing the current PvP.
"No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is."
I dont mind them adding other kinds of PvP for those that enjoy those , i just want them to add them right so it doesnt break my form of PvP/PvE.Edited by Nox_Aeterna on August 19, 2014 2:32AM"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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UnholyPerfection✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.Nox_Aeterna wrote: »UnholyPerfection wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Your pool answers are ... quite few and limited i would say.
Personally im happy with cyro , at most i could consider playing in BGs that had also lots of player inside at the same time playing with neat objectives , but i wouldnt play in arenas and such with few players.
Always found PvP with few players in MMOs to be boring.
Still i dont have something that goes directly against them adding outside balance issues that arenas always bring. IF zen adds them right , maybe even making them like GW2 where all their gear and balance is divided from the rest of the game , i wouldnt mind the devs adding them.
If they dont , then we will have 10 times the amount of balance issues threads we have today , the current balance is NOT at ALL made for small group fights.
It's really a yes or no question?
"Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP."
No i would not personally , im happy playing the current PvP.
"No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is."
I dont mind them adding other kinds of PvP for those that enjoy those , i just want them to add them right so it doesnt break my form of PvP/PvE.
While I understand where you're coming (and I did pause and consider a third option) from I don't understand why people would vote against adding something that others would enjoy and that wouldn't effect them at all.2 -
Nivzruo_ESO✭✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.10v10 /15v15 CTF & KoTH matches, also 2v2 arena or 2v2v2 ... But most importantly we need a death match type game, no pve non sense.Nelgyntc- V14 NB2
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.UnholyPerfection wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »UnholyPerfection wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Your pool answers are ... quite few and limited i would say.
Personally im happy with cyro , at most i could consider playing in BGs that had also lots of player inside at the same time playing with neat objectives , but i wouldnt play in arenas and such with few players.
Always found PvP with few players in MMOs to be boring.
Still i dont have something that goes directly against them adding outside balance issues that arenas always bring. IF zen adds them right , maybe even making them like GW2 where all their gear and balance is divided from the rest of the game , i wouldnt mind the devs adding them.
If they dont , then we will have 10 times the amount of balance issues threads we have today , the current balance is NOT at ALL made for small group fights.
It's really a yes or no question?
"Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP."
No i would not personally , im happy playing the current PvP.
"No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is."
I dont mind them adding other kinds of PvP for those that enjoy those , i just want them to add them right so it doesnt break my form of PvP/PvE.
While I understand where you're coming (and I did pause and consider a third option) from I don't understand why people would vote against adding something that others would enjoy and that wouldn't effect them at all.
Because very few , VERY FEW , MMOs that ever implemented arenas can say they really didnt "mess up" the rest for that.
The balance for something like cyrodiil and arenas is not the same at all. Current builds in a locked small space like an arena being used against few people would just instantly kill them all and so on. Does this mean the skill requires a nerf for cyro? A nerf for PvE?
So it is normal for people to believe that by having arenas in the game , they will be affected even if they are 100% PvE players."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Aldarenn✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.I'm in favor of dueling, the justice system, and a 4v4v4 Arena.Templar - Noel Kreiss - DC
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Kego✭✭✭✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »10v10 /15v15 CTF & KoTH matches, also 2v2 arena or 2v2v2 ... But most importantly we need a death match type game, no pve non sense.
Go to WoW, their you have your FPS Style PvP.
No need for it in ESO. If you want 4v4 PvP go to Cyrodiil. Use the Board to make up a spot where no Zergs are running and roam up there for Grp PvP.
Worked in DAOC as well, but today every one seems to need an instance that ports you to the action instead of organize it for yourself...
Edited by Kego on August 19, 2014 7:36AM3 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.I want to duel!!! I wants to dueellll!1 -
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✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.ONLY if they don't screw up the current itemization and balance. But since I know they'll do both, I'm voting no.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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aronothub17_ESO✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.I honestly wouldn't mind seeing level appropriate battlegrounds until you get level capped as an ally way of leveling. Face it you can enter cyro at 10 but why would you want to you at such a huge disadvantage. Sure your "scaled" to 50 but you still have no abilities limited bonuses on armor ect. Would be so much nicer to see small bgs where you could feel like you stand a slim chance in oblivion in winning a fight2
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »10v10 /15v15 CTF & KoTH matches, also 2v2 arena or 2v2v2 ... But most importantly we need a death match type game, no pve non sense.
Go to WoW, their you have your FPS Style PvP.
No need for it in ESO. If you want 4v4 PvP go to Cyrodiil. Use the Board to make up a spot where no Zergs are running and roam up there for Grp PvP.
Worked in DAOC as well, but today every one seems to need an instance that ports you to the action instead of organize it for yourself...
I hate the "go to wow" posts. 0 argumentation.
If you want to play in a dull game go to Hello Kitty. No need for this behavior here nor this unwillingness to make the game progress.
Duels worked well in Lineage II so I see no problem for them working well here.
I know my argument is op because I began with: go to "insert game".Edited by TehMagnus on August 19, 2014 8:05AM2 -
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✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.yes, but nothing bigger than 16 v16 v16.
For those PvPers that played RIFT, something like Port Scion. At least then it would keep within the ESO storyline as we could have the three factions battling for control of a town (or something)
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✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.As stated above multiple times, neither do I view 40v40 as small scale. For me, when number of combatants of faction rises above 10 to 15 at most, presence on battlefield and especially with the main body of our forces no longer matters.
I am not interested in arenas and such though. I would rather see some tweaks to Cyrodiil, e.g. fixed forward camps to prevent fast travel by suicide. If huge zergs can move from place to in an eyeblink, even equal number of players split into smaller untis just face defeat in detail. If it were not possible, zerg would roflstomp one unit, but would lose several keeps to others.
As for zergballing on tactical level (and no, it's not about AoE cap), I would like to see, generally speaking, multiple economies of scale being here to be replaced with diseconomies of scale.Edited by JamilaRaj on August 19, 2014 11:54AM2 -
UnholyPerfection✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.The most fun I've ever had in MMO PvP was Huttball in ToR. Although I do understand peoples concerns that balancing small scale PvP could mess up the large scale PvP and honestly that's a really good point and not something I thought of.Edited by UnholyPerfection on August 20, 2014 7:55PM3
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✭✭4 on 4, 2 on 2 and dueling.. yes sir
So WoW? Gotcha.
I don't really do PvP, but can two factions not work togethor to beat the other one? This is what made DAoC so great with the PvP. With 3 factions you could keep each check by working together. This has always been the downfall of PvP in MMOs that only support 2 factions.
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Cyberdown✭✭✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.I wouldn't mind it existing, however, a whole slew of issues typically come out of a competitive small group pvp scenario...im assuming this is a cry for arena pvp...which is what this type of request usually ends up being a form of.
I dunno personally id rather than flesh out the current pvp, work on more pve content, and fix the VR experience...before we got some kind of complaint factory that is always arena style competitive pvp.0 -
Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, I want the only PvP available to stay as is.No, I play this MMO precisely because it is not just like every other MMO ever, anything that takes it into the tedious mainstream both risks being dull and brings ESO into direct competition with all those other games.
IMO they are better focusing on perfecting the things that make them different and interesting not on being another clone.5 -
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✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.I find instanced PvP to be an inevitable outcome given how popular it is.2 -
MartinXKid✭✭✭Yes I would love to play some smaller scale PvP.I would really like that but none of that Arena like Wow (Fight to the death style).
A small scale objective based game like King of the Hill or an item hold game (Gain pts for holding an item,orb,flag,w/e) on a 2v2v2 or 3v3v3.
Also a small PvP objective in Cyrodiil. Like an escort from Drakelowe Keep, Dragon Claw Fort and Castle Brindle to your Faction Base or something. Or a Cyrodiil NPC Boss that gives a buff to the faction who kills it. These are just quick ideas but I would really like these type of games where you can get ambushed or such in an Open World PvP where it asks less players (Maybe 10-15) to complete them. I love Cyrodill I just find it to be too a Large Scale Zerg type."War ..... War never changes"0
