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11.5 Million XP Points Till the Next Level Cap !

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Really can't say as I'm looking forward to grinding out another 11+ million in xp points just to reach the newly announced VR14 level cap.

Hopefully Dragonstar Arena will give some serious xp because (and this is assuming the current grouping problems don't continue) the lack of solo content in update 1.4 is going to force everybody into group play if they want any hope of reaching VR14 !

:(
Edited by Phantax on August 20, 2014 5:49PM
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    LFG Tower run. I have candy!
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    Burial Grind! LFG!!
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    ffs, that's ridiculous, they upped pvp exp by a small fraction, then make the change completely obsolete. Yea no way I am grinding this out in a couple of weeks with pvp.
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    I don't care about that new level cap. I'll just spend most of my time in Cyrodiil and some time in PvE content as I'm currently doing.
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    I am so glad that I don't PvP and have to grind out these levels. I can just play the content and level as I go along.
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    I was in Craglorn the other night and a GM made an announcement that they consider the Thief grind and exploit .. so there is that lol.
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I am so glad that I don't PvP and have to grind out these levels. I can just play the content and level as I go along.

    Yeah sucks. I only PvP and now I will basically be forced to PvE to VR14.
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    Sleep wrote: »
    I don't care about that new level cap. I'll just spend most of my time in Cyrodiil and some time in PvE content as I'm currently doing.

    I just wish PvP gave a bit better gains. PvPed several hours the other night, barely budged my bar. Spent maybe a quarter of that time doing a tower group, gained probably 7/8s of a bar to ding the level.
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    I can guarantee that if you went to Craglorn and typed "LF grind group" in zone, you'd go from VR12 to VR14 within 4 hours.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    I can guarantee that if you went to Craglorn and typed "LF grind group" in zone, you'd go from VR12 to VR14 within 4 hours.

    But is that fun? No. so way even bother increasing the cap?
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    I'm not worried about it. The new content will introduce new exploits, most people will be able to grind that out n a few hours.
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    firstdecan wrote: »
    I'm not worried about it. The new content will introduce new exploits, most people will be able to grind that out n a few hours.

    A few hours? Dang. It only takes me a few minutes.

    Oh, you said grind that out. I thought we were talking about something else.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    I can guarantee that if you went to Craglorn and typed "LF grind group" in zone, you'd go from VR12 to VR14 within 4 hours.

    Well hopefully theres some new grind areas because otherwise all these groups will be full, and then it comes a competition to do enough damage or healing to get kill credit.

    Think I am just going to finally grind there to VR12 at least, then just play when the cap increases. Will be close enough to not be in that bad of shape.
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    WebBull wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    I can guarantee that if you went to Craglorn and typed "LF grind group" in zone, you'd go from VR12 to VR14 within 4 hours.

    But is that fun? No. so way even bother increasing the cap?

    It's fun to some, not fun to probably a lot more people. You can always take your time getting there. I'm just going to continue to PvP. When I get there, I get there.
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    With no official comment on this from ZOS im calling BS.
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.
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    Phantax wrote: »
    Hopefully Dragonstar Arena will give some serious xp because (and this is assuming the current grouping problems don't continue) the lack of solo content in update 1.4 is going to force everybody into group play if they want any hope of reaching VR14 !

    I fear it more likely will force people to another game rather than to VR14. :\
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.

    "Add content for everyone" to get to vr14? You mean the new serpent trial, dragonstar arena, several new group delves, and a bunch of new questlines, in craglorn for VR12-14? That's content, and heaps of it.
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.

    "Add content for everyone" to get to vr14? You mean the new serpent trial, dragonstar arena, several new group delves, and a bunch of new questlines, in craglorn for VR12-14? That's content, and heaps of it.

    Agreed and you forgot the "grind" part. There is no need to grind anything if you play through all this new content. Add to that, more exp in Cyro AND you get exp for explore, opening chests and everything else that 1-50 gets.

    Vet12 will more then likely already reach vet14 before they are done with half of whats coming.

    If anything, I am surprised no one DEMANDED that all extra exp you get when you reach Vet14 will get saved, so you get more Champion points when phase 4 gets released. This will of course not happen, but I was kinda expecting something like that by these "grinders".

    Edit: No way in HELL any extra exp should get saved for Vet 14 to use when Champion system is in place! Just to be clear on that!
    Edited by Cogo on August 23, 2014 8:57AM
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  • Cogo
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    Phantax wrote: »
    Really can't say as I'm looking forward to grinding out another 11+ million in xp points just to reach the newly announced VR14 level cap.

    Hopefully Dragonstar Arena will give some serious xp because (and this is assuming the current grouping problems don't continue) the lack of solo content in update 1.4 is going to force everybody into group play if they want any hope of reaching VR14 !

    :(

    I must ask.....you ARE aware of how the champion system will work right? You will get champion points for exp and you will NOT get exp enough for ALL passives you can choose for your points in the near future.

    Even the most hardcore grinder/exploiter will NOT get enough exp for ALL passives. It's supposed to give you value for exp no matter how many champion points you get.

    You do know...that, right? And add the 2 guild skills lines with the spell crafting system. There will not be a single character who has it all. There even will be a huge number of "new" builds and your play style, choice of new features in food buffs, enchants, potions, regen, "build" and player skill WILL have a bigger effect then today. So someone with muuuuuch less passives and skills/spells then you, might own you anyway in Cyrodiil or damage output in PvE.

    And when all these things are in place. This isnt everything. There is more coming, which we don't know the details of yet.

    If you really saying that you do not want to develop your character more, then I am sorry, but you will always be doing that.

    Statement by Zenimax over a year ago, btw.
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    Phantax wrote: »
    Hopefully Dragonstar Arena will give some serious xp because (and this is assuming the current grouping problems don't continue) the lack of solo content in update 1.4 is going to force everybody into group play mindless bosses grinding and exploiting, if they want any hope of reaching VR14 !

    :(

    Fixed.
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.

    "Add content for everyone" to get to vr14? You mean the new serpent trial, dragonstar arena, several new group delves, and a bunch of new questlines, in craglorn for VR12-14? That's content, and heaps of it.

    Only the worst hard core Korean grinders force people to level up in groups. It won't happen either, because of the funny quest locks everywhere.

    Atrocious, awful game design strikes back.
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    Phantax wrote: »
    I did not know that ESO characters will keep getting options to develop among the new content/stuff that we get every 4-6 weeks.

    Fixed.

    Now its Fixed! =)
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.

    "Add content for everyone" to get to vr14? You mean the new serpent trial, dragonstar arena, several new group delves, and a bunch of new questlines, in craglorn for VR12-14? That's content, and heaps of it.

    Yeah , that is all PvE group content mate.

    Solo players and PvP players will have to just grind it out AGAIN , because doing so for vet12 was not enough ofc.

    Most MMOs raise the lvl cap with an exp , which adds enough content to make it resonable , but nope , not zen , they keep raising it and tossing players into the grinding machine.

    I repeat , fastest way to VR14 , if zen thinks that is an exploit , well good luck banning everyone that will be doing it :P.
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    Use your effing head please and cease all this thread spamming. How many more about this same topic;

    Cannot? By all means let me assist

    THIS WAS ALREADY PLANNED OUT. Like past tense, prior to commencing the whole champion redesign. See emphasis on prior.

    Nothing in their plans is changed.
    Content panned out and paid for, devs have a salary, they dont do content so that momma be proud, is content released.
    Nothing in their plans is changed. Mk? :)
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    Aenra wrote: »
    Use your effing head please and cease all this thread spamming. How many more about this same topic;

    Cannot? By all means let me assist

    THIS WAS ALREADY PLANNED OUT. Like past tense, prior to commencing the whole champion redesign. See emphasis on prior.

    Nothing in their plans is changed.
    Content panned out and paid for, devs have a salary, they dont do content so that momma be proud, is content released.
    Nothing in their plans is changed. Mk? :)

    Why can't I express myself like this?

    You forgot to mention they don't have to pay for any expansion. Small detail.
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  • ThisOnePosts
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    Hopefully doing all of the content will grant enough XP/VR Points to bring VR12s to VR14.
    Edited by ThisOnePosts on August 23, 2014 10:06AM
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.

    "Add content for everyone" to get to vr14? You mean the new serpent trial, dragonstar arena, several new group delves, and a bunch of new questlines, in craglorn for VR12-14? That's content, and heaps of it.

    Yeah , that is all PvE group content mate.

    Solo players and PvP players will have to just grind it out AGAIN , because doing so for vet12 was not enough ofc.

    Most MMOs raise the lvl cap with an exp , which adds enough content to make it resonable , but nope , not zen , they keep raising it and tossing players into the grinding machine.

    I repeat , fastest way to VR14 , if zen thinks that is an exploit , well good luck banning everyone that will be doing it :P.

    Yeah, it's an MMO and endgame content is generally passed around PVP and group PVE. PVP provides a reasonable amount of XP if you're doing well in it so you're fine there... and it's hardly like you're in trouble before then since all it gives is ~20hp, 12 magicka/stamina, and ~5 (would have to double-check my notes) weapon damage, for the increases on softcaps. If 20hp is going to break you on a 3000+ hp character in pvp, well, I don't know what to tell you but that you place way too much importance on sub-1% gains instead of focusing on winning.
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    Honestly , i will be joining the fastest grinding path to VR14 , tired of this crap zen keep pulling because the devs are to lazy to do a proper lvl cap raise and add content for everyone.

    Basic game design flaw , but hey , this is zen what did anyone expect really.

    "Add content for everyone" to get to vr14? You mean the new serpent trial, dragonstar arena, several new group delves, and a bunch of new questlines, in craglorn for VR12-14? That's content, and heaps of it.

    Yeah , that is all PvE group content mate.

    Solo players and PvP players will have to just grind it out AGAIN , because doing so for vet12 was not enough ofc.

    Most MMOs raise the lvl cap with an exp , which adds enough content to make it resonable , but nope , not zen , they keep raising it and tossing players into the grinding machine.

    I repeat , fastest way to VR14 , if zen thinks that is an exploit , well good luck banning everyone that will be doing it :P.

    Yeah, it's an MMO and endgame content is generally passed around PVP and group PVE. PVP provides a reasonable amount of XP if you're doing well in it so you're fine there... and it's hardly like you're in trouble before then since all it gives is ~20hp, 12 magicka/stamina, and ~5 (would have to double-check my notes) weapon damage, for the increases on softcaps. If 20hp is going to break you on a 3000+ hp character in pvp, well, I don't know what to tell you but that you place way too much importance on sub-1% gains instead of focusing on winning.

    When I jumped on the PTS, the soft caps for PVP had stayed the same I believe. Know for sure that magicka was the same. PVE soft caps appeared to have risen. But your point still remains the same. Mentioned this on another thread, just like you here, if this small increase in stats affects them that much, something is probably wrong. You can easily do well in PVP without having legendary gear against people with legendary gear. Their v12 legendary gear will do them just fine and me as well until you get to v14 and upgrade your gear the whole way.
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  • Zubba
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    We dont have to be in top level. I still didnt reach VR12 since early access. And I am a happy PvPer.
    Add PvP loot drops for some risk/reward in this game.

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