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Do Kuta still come from hirelings?
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭I'm guessing it is all coincidence that with prices of all mats falling across the board the price of Kuta is on the rise and is 33-50% higher everywhere, even with a wider market from guild kiosks.1 -
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Really. Show me evidence that proves that you're not just having a string of bad luck with RNG. Until you can do that (and you can't do that without server-wide stats that show what everyone is getting from their hirelings), you have absolutely no way of saying that it's bugged. That's the nature of any mechanic that relies on RNG. Just because you don't understand that doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
The bank bug had nothing to do with RNG. Your anecdote, and those of some other people, doesn't imply anything about it being bugged. It implies you've had bad luck. Others have reported having abnormally good luck with Kuta. That doesn't imply that it's bugged either. That implies they've had good luck. Is it possible that it's bugged? Sure. Without seeing server-wide stats, however, there's absolutely no evidence of that. That's the nature of RNG - unless you see the whole picture there's no way of saying that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
No, it's not bugged. It's a random number generator. Sometimes the RNG gods look favorably on you, and sometimes they don't. When you have a streak of bad luck it doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »Haven't seen one in weeks from my maxed enchanting hireling. On the other hand, my clothing/blacksmith/woodworking hirelings bring at least one yellow a week.
Seems that this is bugged.
Yeah yeah RNG blah blah blah. 0/60 Kutas in enchanting mails, compared to 10-15/60 for every other craft does imply that it is bugged. Along with the fact that hireling mails have bugged in the past, AND that other people are noticing this, certainly makes a strong case that some people are in fact experiencing a bug with enchanter hireling mails.
Remember the bank bug that was affecting a small portion of people? Just because you are not personally experiencing the bug, does not mean that it isn't bugged.
Okay, you are starting to understand. The Kuta bug has nothing to do with RNG either...
You don't need to see server wide stats. In fact, server wide stats will tell you absolutely nothing. The fact that some people have good luck with Kuta tells you absolutely nothing (RNG as you said).
The fact that multiple people have gone months without getting a Kuta is the only relevant information in this thread. Since you clearly have difficulty grasping the issue, and have nothing to contribute to this thread, please stop polluting this thread with your pointless posts.
I feel like we are playing ping pong here. Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
Where is your proof there is no issue just because RNG is involved? RNG was involved when I got them almost daily for months, never went more than a few days, and that was when I only had one enchanting hireling now I have 3. So out of nowhere with three times the chance the RNG gods are just mad at me for months I guess. Many people in game have said they have not got them for over a month .. in fact the same exact month and I never heard anyone complain about this issue before that. Maybe it is just RNG affecting one component and a lot of people are having the same exact bad RNG luck all at the same time or maybe something has changed, and maybe it is only affecting certain people.
Where is your "proof" you keep asking for that nothing has changed?
The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. The claim here is that the hirelings are bugged. So prove it. No one has to prove that the state of things as they are is working as intended, because that's the norm. To prove that something abnormal has started to occur, you need to be the one submitting the evidence.
Multiple people in this thread have had good luck, multiple people have had bad luck, it looks to me like it averages out, but it is all anecdotal evidence.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.5 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
Really. Show me evidence that proves that you're not just having a string of bad luck with RNG. Until you can do that (and you can't do that without server-wide stats that show what everyone is getting from their hirelings), you have absolutely no way of saying that it's bugged. That's the nature of any mechanic that relies on RNG. Just because you don't understand that doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
The bank bug had nothing to do with RNG. Your anecdote, and those of some other people, doesn't imply anything about it being bugged. It implies you've had bad luck. Others have reported having abnormally good luck with Kuta. That doesn't imply that it's bugged either. That implies they've had good luck. Is it possible that it's bugged? Sure. Without seeing server-wide stats, however, there's absolutely no evidence of that. That's the nature of RNG - unless you see the whole picture there's no way of saying that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
No, it's not bugged. It's a random number generator. Sometimes the RNG gods look favorably on you, and sometimes they don't. When you have a streak of bad luck it doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »Haven't seen one in weeks from my maxed enchanting hireling. On the other hand, my clothing/blacksmith/woodworking hirelings bring at least one yellow a week.
Seems that this is bugged.
Yeah yeah RNG blah blah blah. 0/60 Kutas in enchanting mails, compared to 10-15/60 for every other craft does imply that it is bugged. Along with the fact that hireling mails have bugged in the past, AND that other people are noticing this, certainly makes a strong case that some people are in fact experiencing a bug with enchanter hireling mails.
Remember the bank bug that was affecting a small portion of people? Just because you are not personally experiencing the bug, does not mean that it isn't bugged.
Okay, you are starting to understand. The Kuta bug has nothing to do with RNG either...
You don't need to see server wide stats. In fact, server wide stats will tell you absolutely nothing. The fact that some people have good luck with Kuta tells you absolutely nothing (RNG as you said).
The fact that multiple people have gone months without getting a Kuta is the only relevant information in this thread. Since you clearly have difficulty grasping the issue, and have nothing to contribute to this thread, please stop polluting this thread with your pointless posts.
I feel like we are playing ping pong here. Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
Where is your proof there is no issue just because RNG is involved? RNG was involved when I got them almost daily for months, never went more than a few days, and that was when I only had one enchanting hireling now I have 3. So out of nowhere with three times the chance the RNG gods are just mad at me for months I guess. Many people in game have said they have not got them for over a month .. in fact the same exact month and I never heard anyone complain about this issue before that. Maybe it is just RNG affecting one component and a lot of people are having the same exact bad RNG luck all at the same time or maybe something has changed, and maybe it is only affecting certain people.
Where is your "proof" you keep asking for that nothing has changed?
The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. The claim here is that the hirelings are bugged. So prove it. No one has to prove that the state of things as they are is working as intended, because that's the norm. To prove that something abnormal has started to occur, you need to be the one submitting the evidence.
Multiple people in this thread have had good luck, multiple people have had bad luck, it looks to me like it averages out, but it is all anecdotal evidence.
I didn't make the claim they were bugged I asked if anyone else was getting them. He made the claim they are not bugged because of RNG, he made the claim.
Since none of us have the info to know posts like this are the only way to get ZOS to look at it.
Also I think the market, especially now that it is expanded with guild kiosks is typically a good indicator. Kuta are more expensive now than ever before by a good margin and I can't say the same for any other crafting mat.3 -
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✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
Really. Show me evidence that proves that you're not just having a string of bad luck with RNG. Until you can do that (and you can't do that without server-wide stats that show what everyone is getting from their hirelings), you have absolutely no way of saying that it's bugged. That's the nature of any mechanic that relies on RNG. Just because you don't understand that doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
The bank bug had nothing to do with RNG. Your anecdote, and those of some other people, doesn't imply anything about it being bugged. It implies you've had bad luck. Others have reported having abnormally good luck with Kuta. That doesn't imply that it's bugged either. That implies they've had good luck. Is it possible that it's bugged? Sure. Without seeing server-wide stats, however, there's absolutely no evidence of that. That's the nature of RNG - unless you see the whole picture there's no way of saying that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
No, it's not bugged. It's a random number generator. Sometimes the RNG gods look favorably on you, and sometimes they don't. When you have a streak of bad luck it doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »Haven't seen one in weeks from my maxed enchanting hireling. On the other hand, my clothing/blacksmith/woodworking hirelings bring at least one yellow a week.
Seems that this is bugged.
Yeah yeah RNG blah blah blah. 0/60 Kutas in enchanting mails, compared to 10-15/60 for every other craft does imply that it is bugged. Along with the fact that hireling mails have bugged in the past, AND that other people are noticing this, certainly makes a strong case that some people are in fact experiencing a bug with enchanter hireling mails.
Remember the bank bug that was affecting a small portion of people? Just because you are not personally experiencing the bug, does not mean that it isn't bugged.
Okay, you are starting to understand. The Kuta bug has nothing to do with RNG either...
You don't need to see server wide stats. In fact, server wide stats will tell you absolutely nothing. The fact that some people have good luck with Kuta tells you absolutely nothing (RNG as you said).
The fact that multiple people have gone months without getting a Kuta is the only relevant information in this thread. Since you clearly have difficulty grasping the issue, and have nothing to contribute to this thread, please stop polluting this thread with your pointless posts.
I feel like we are playing ping pong here. Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
Where is your proof there is no issue just because RNG is involved? RNG was involved when I got them almost daily for months, never went more than a few days, and that was when I only had one enchanting hireling now I have 3. So out of nowhere with three times the chance the RNG gods are just mad at me for months I guess. Many people in game have said they have not got them for over a month .. in fact the same exact month and I never heard anyone complain about this issue before that. Maybe it is just RNG affecting one component and a lot of people are having the same exact bad RNG luck all at the same time or maybe something has changed, and maybe it is only affecting certain people.
Where is your "proof" you keep asking for that nothing has changed?
The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. The claim here is that the hirelings are bugged. So prove it. No one has to prove that the state of things as they are is working as intended, because that's the norm. To prove that something abnormal has started to occur, you need to be the one submitting the evidence.
Multiple people in this thread have had good luck, multiple people have had bad luck, it looks to me like it averages out, but it is all anecdotal evidence.
I didn't make the claim they were bugged I asked if anyone else was getting them. He made the claim they are not bugged because of RNG, he made the claim.
Since none of us have the info to know posts like this are the only way to get ZOS to look at it.
Also I think the market, especially now that it is expanded with guild kiosks is typically a good indicator. Kuta are more expensive now than ever before by a good margin and I can't say the same for any other crafting mat.
it doesn't literally matter who actually made the claim. The point is, one generally sets out to prove something is NOT working as intended, following the normal pattern of things, etc, as opposed to doing what it has always done. You can't 100% prove that something is working correctly, because no problem is actually there to detect.
I have seen Kuta being bought at the same price as always, btw.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I didn't make the claim they were bugged
But someone else did:NerfEverything wrote: »Seems that this is bugged.
And when people pointed out there is no evidence for that, you caught right on:Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
You basically adopted the first person's claim. At that point it no longer matters it wasn't you who originally posted it, you are arguing as if you did.
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭We can argue all day about who has the "burden of proof" on an internet forum when it makes no difference because all we can do is use the data that is at are disposal an neither side can show proof. Last I checked the whole burden of truth concept is for courts and really has no bearing on an internet forum discussion. So it really makes no difference.
It seems like you are basically saying anything you can't prove can't be mentioned. So only ZOS can post on these matters?
My entire point was the fact that RNG is involved doesn't prove it isn't working or that it is working as intended, it just makes it impossible for us to prove either.2 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
Really. Show me evidence that proves that you're not just having a string of bad luck with RNG. Until you can do that (and you can't do that without server-wide stats that show what everyone is getting from their hirelings), you have absolutely no way of saying that it's bugged. That's the nature of any mechanic that relies on RNG. Just because you don't understand that doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
The bank bug had nothing to do with RNG. Your anecdote, and those of some other people, doesn't imply anything about it being bugged. It implies you've had bad luck. Others have reported having abnormally good luck with Kuta. That doesn't imply that it's bugged either. That implies they've had good luck. Is it possible that it's bugged? Sure. Without seeing server-wide stats, however, there's absolutely no evidence of that. That's the nature of RNG - unless you see the whole picture there's no way of saying that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
No, it's not bugged. It's a random number generator. Sometimes the RNG gods look favorably on you, and sometimes they don't. When you have a streak of bad luck it doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »Haven't seen one in weeks from my maxed enchanting hireling. On the other hand, my clothing/blacksmith/woodworking hirelings bring at least one yellow a week.
Seems that this is bugged.
Yeah yeah RNG blah blah blah. 0/60 Kutas in enchanting mails, compared to 10-15/60 for every other craft does imply that it is bugged. Along with the fact that hireling mails have bugged in the past, AND that other people are noticing this, certainly makes a strong case that some people are in fact experiencing a bug with enchanter hireling mails.
Remember the bank bug that was affecting a small portion of people? Just because you are not personally experiencing the bug, does not mean that it isn't bugged.
Okay, you are starting to understand. The Kuta bug has nothing to do with RNG either...
You don't need to see server wide stats. In fact, server wide stats will tell you absolutely nothing. The fact that some people have good luck with Kuta tells you absolutely nothing (RNG as you said).
The fact that multiple people have gone months without getting a Kuta is the only relevant information in this thread. Since you clearly have difficulty grasping the issue, and have nothing to contribute to this thread, please stop polluting this thread with your pointless posts.
I feel like we are playing ping pong here. Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
Where is your proof there is no issue just because RNG is involved? RNG was involved when I got them almost daily for months, never went more than a few days, and that was when I only had one enchanting hireling now I have 3. So out of nowhere with three times the chance the RNG gods are just mad at me for months I guess. Many people in game have said they have not got them for over a month .. in fact the same exact month and I never heard anyone complain about this issue before that. Maybe it is just RNG affecting one component and a lot of people are having the same exact bad RNG luck all at the same time or maybe something has changed, and maybe it is only affecting certain people.
Where is your "proof" you keep asking for that nothing has changed?
The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. The claim here is that the hirelings are bugged. So prove it. No one has to prove that the state of things as they are is working as intended, because that's the norm. To prove that something abnormal has started to occur, you need to be the one submitting the evidence.
Multiple people in this thread have had good luck, multiple people have had bad luck, it looks to me like it averages out, but it is all anecdotal evidence.
I didn't make the claim they were bugged I asked if anyone else was getting them. He made the claim they are not bugged because of RNG, he made the claim.
Since none of us have the info to know posts like this are the only way to get ZOS to look at it.
Also I think the market, especially now that it is expanded with guild kiosks is typically a good indicator. Kuta are more expensive now than ever before by a good margin and I can't say the same for any other crafting mat.
it doesn't literally matter who actually made the claim. The point is, one generally sets out to prove something is NOT working as intended, following the normal pattern of things, etc, as opposed to doing what it has always done. You can't 100% prove that something is working correctly, because no problem is actually there to detect.
I have seen Kuta being bought at the same price as always, btw.
Mind sharing your source I used to buy them all day at 2-2.5k I have checked every guild vendor I can find and all my trading guilds and the cheapest I see is 3.5 and most start at 4.0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭Here is an example. There have been posts here and reddit with people using bow in PvP hitting for 5k+ with single shots. Even the people doing it admit that it is not what they should be hitting for. Yet other people are hitting for normal damage with bow.
Doesn't that prove it is possible for bugs to affect certain people and not others?1 -
The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭I've still been getting them at an equally random rate as before, so there's that.Edited by The_Sadist on August 21, 2014 3:21AM"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
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OK, seriously? I was directly addressing the person who claimed in no uncertain terms that it is bugged. Something that he has absolutely no possible way of knowing. For mechanics that don't involve RNG it's easy to tell if they're bugged - even if the bug is only affecting some people and not others. For mechanics that do involve RNG it's impossible to tell without being able to see the full server stats. He's claiming that it's bugged, so he needs to back that up, and he can't. I only responded to his unsupportable claim, therefore the burden of proof is entirely on him.
Really. Show me evidence that proves that you're not just having a string of bad luck with RNG. Until you can do that (and you can't do that without server-wide stats that show what everyone is getting from their hirelings), you have absolutely no way of saying that it's bugged. That's the nature of any mechanic that relies on RNG. Just because you don't understand that doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
The bank bug had nothing to do with RNG. Your anecdote, and those of some other people, doesn't imply anything about it being bugged. It implies you've had bad luck. Others have reported having abnormally good luck with Kuta. That doesn't imply that it's bugged either. That implies they've had good luck. Is it possible that it's bugged? Sure. Without seeing server-wide stats, however, there's absolutely no evidence of that. That's the nature of RNG - unless you see the whole picture there's no way of saying that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
No, it's not bugged. It's a random number generator. Sometimes the RNG gods look favorably on you, and sometimes they don't. When you have a streak of bad luck it doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »Haven't seen one in weeks from my maxed enchanting hireling. On the other hand, my clothing/blacksmith/woodworking hirelings bring at least one yellow a week.
Seems that this is bugged.
Yeah yeah RNG blah blah blah. 0/60 Kutas in enchanting mails, compared to 10-15/60 for every other craft does imply that it is bugged. Along with the fact that hireling mails have bugged in the past, AND that other people are noticing this, certainly makes a strong case that some people are in fact experiencing a bug with enchanter hireling mails.
Remember the bank bug that was affecting a small portion of people? Just because you are not personally experiencing the bug, does not mean that it isn't bugged.
Okay, you are starting to understand. The Kuta bug has nothing to do with RNG either...
You don't need to see server wide stats. In fact, server wide stats will tell you absolutely nothing. The fact that some people have good luck with Kuta tells you absolutely nothing (RNG as you said).
The fact that multiple people have gone months without getting a Kuta is the only relevant information in this thread. Since you clearly have difficulty grasping the issue, and have nothing to contribute to this thread, please stop polluting this thread with your pointless posts.
I feel like we are playing ping pong here. Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
Where is your proof there is no issue just because RNG is involved? RNG was involved when I got them almost daily for months, never went more than a few days, and that was when I only had one enchanting hireling now I have 3. So out of nowhere with three times the chance the RNG gods are just mad at me for months I guess. Many people in game have said they have not got them for over a month .. in fact the same exact month and I never heard anyone complain about this issue before that. Maybe it is just RNG affecting one component and a lot of people are having the same exact bad RNG luck all at the same time or maybe something has changed, and maybe it is only affecting certain people.
Where is your "proof" you keep asking for that nothing has changed?
Again, though, it's important to note that none of that was directed to you. It's directed towards the guy who is blindly claiming that it is definitely bugged, with absolutely no way of knowing that.
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OK, seriously? I was directly addressing the person who claimed in no uncertain terms that it is bugged. Something that he has absolutely no possible way of knowing. For mechanics that don't involve RNG it's easy to tell if they're bugged - even if the bug is only affecting some people and not others. For mechanics that do involve RNG it's impossible to tell without being able to see the full server stats. He's claiming that it's bugged, so he needs to back that up, and he can't. I only responded to his unsupportable claim, therefore the burden of proof is entirely on him.
Really. Show me evidence that proves that you're not just having a string of bad luck with RNG. Until you can do that (and you can't do that without server-wide stats that show what everyone is getting from their hirelings), you have absolutely no way of saying that it's bugged. That's the nature of any mechanic that relies on RNG. Just because you don't understand that doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
The bank bug had nothing to do with RNG. Your anecdote, and those of some other people, doesn't imply anything about it being bugged. It implies you've had bad luck. Others have reported having abnormally good luck with Kuta. That doesn't imply that it's bugged either. That implies they've had good luck. Is it possible that it's bugged? Sure. Without seeing server-wide stats, however, there's absolutely no evidence of that. That's the nature of RNG - unless you see the whole picture there's no way of saying that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »
No, it's not bugged. It's a random number generator. Sometimes the RNG gods look favorably on you, and sometimes they don't. When you have a streak of bad luck it doesn't mean that it's bugged.NerfEverything wrote: »Haven't seen one in weeks from my maxed enchanting hireling. On the other hand, my clothing/blacksmith/woodworking hirelings bring at least one yellow a week.
Seems that this is bugged.
Yeah yeah RNG blah blah blah. 0/60 Kutas in enchanting mails, compared to 10-15/60 for every other craft does imply that it is bugged. Along with the fact that hireling mails have bugged in the past, AND that other people are noticing this, certainly makes a strong case that some people are in fact experiencing a bug with enchanter hireling mails.
Remember the bank bug that was affecting a small portion of people? Just because you are not personally experiencing the bug, does not mean that it isn't bugged.
Okay, you are starting to understand. The Kuta bug has nothing to do with RNG either...
You don't need to see server wide stats. In fact, server wide stats will tell you absolutely nothing. The fact that some people have good luck with Kuta tells you absolutely nothing (RNG as you said).
The fact that multiple people have gone months without getting a Kuta is the only relevant information in this thread. Since you clearly have difficulty grasping the issue, and have nothing to contribute to this thread, please stop polluting this thread with your pointless posts.
I feel like we are playing ping pong here. Ok show me evidence that the string of back luck is only the result of RNG. Until you can do that you have absolutely no way of saying it's not bugged.
Where is your proof there is no issue just because RNG is involved? RNG was involved when I got them almost daily for months, never went more than a few days, and that was when I only had one enchanting hireling now I have 3. So out of nowhere with three times the chance the RNG gods are just mad at me for months I guess. Many people in game have said they have not got them for over a month .. in fact the same exact month and I never heard anyone complain about this issue before that. Maybe it is just RNG affecting one component and a lot of people are having the same exact bad RNG luck all at the same time or maybe something has changed, and maybe it is only affecting certain people.
Where is your "proof" you keep asking for that nothing has changed?
Again, though, it's important to note that none of that was directed to you. It's directed towards the guy who is blindly claiming that it is definitely bugged, with absolutely no way of knowing that.
I wasn't trying to offend you or anything, but to be fair you claimed that it is not bugged in the same way. I was just trying to point out because of the nature of RNG and some bugs only affecting certain people that it may be bugged, of course I don't know because I don't have the code in front of me.0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭For the record after posting this I got no aspects from two of my hirelings and the other got a Jejota last night and a Ta today. I don't remember ever really getting Ta from the hirelings on a guy with 45 in enchanting and everything maxed but I may have just overlooked it.1
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✭Here is an example. There have been posts here and reddit with people using bow in PvP hitting for 5k+ with single shots. Even the people doing it admit that it is not what they should be hitting for. Yet other people are hitting for normal damage with bow.
Doesn't that prove it is possible for bugs to affect certain people and not others?
except even in one instance of it doing that, it can be confirmed as a bug. It's not a statistical issue.
You not getting kutas for a week or even a month can not be confirmed as a bug without more data. It's entirely different.
Also, Kuta have been at about 3.5k for awhile now, especially with everyone having to remake their gear.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
madangrypally✭✭✭✭I think it is bugged for some people.
I have 3 level 40+ Enchanters with skill points in Rank 3 Hirelings and other enchanting passives.
I have 4 level other enchanters at Rank 1 or Rank 2 atm.
I check my mail on ever character every day so I am not missing mail.
I have not received a Kuta in well over a month. It could be RNG but that is very unlikely a this point.
That is well over 210 Hirelings in the last month.Edited by madangrypally on August 20, 2014 6:00PM0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Here is an example. There have been posts here and reddit with people using bow in PvP hitting for 5k+ with single shots. Even the people doing it admit that it is not what they should be hitting for. Yet other people are hitting for normal damage with bow.
Doesn't that prove it is possible for bugs to affect certain people and not others?
except even in one instance of it doing that, it can be confirmed as a bug. It's not a statistical issue.
You not getting kutas for a week or even a month can not be confirmed as a bug without more data. It's entirely different.
Also, Kuta have been at about 3.5k for awhile now, especially with everyone having to remake their gear.
I think that has been adequately covered many times over. Just the fact that I have seen other people posting similar issues here, on Reddit and talked to quite a few people in game that all have seen a sharp drop off of Kuta from hirelings all over the same period had me curious.0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭How long have all not receiving kuta but very rarely had your enchanter hireling?Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on August 20, 2014 5:58PM0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »Quest is, How long have you had your enchanter hireling?
Since the first month of release. I have made two others in the last two months neither has ever got a kuta and my main enchanter has not had one in a month or two.0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Wow, thats some crappy luck. I've only had my enchanter hireling to level 3 for less than a week and have gotten 3 kuta from it.0
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NerfEverything✭✭✭✭✭I made the claim that it "seems this is bugged".
More people coming forward saying they haven't gotten Kutas in a month. Some people with a fairly large sample size, 180 mails without a Kuta. I've had 60 mails without one. It also seems like this started around the same time for everyone that is experiencing this issue.
So I stand by my claim that it seems this is bugged, at least for some people. I'm hoping ZOS at least looks into it. If they say there is no possible way for this to be bugged, then yeah I guess there are a bunch of really unlucky people in this thread.0 -
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✭I've gotten at least 3 kutas in the last week from hirelings.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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Sadae✭✭✭This issue is NOT RNG. I have two master enchanters both getting hirelings twice day, and I have NEVER got a Kuta from either of them, EVER! No RNG in the world is THAT bad!
All this time I just thought enchanting hirelings never brought them to anybody, until today in guild chat I found out they do. This is a very big deal, and ZOS needs to address this!
My main is VR11, with level 45 Enchanting, and all passives maxed out except "Keen Eye" and "Aspect Extraction", but from what I've read those two passives aren't affecting it. My alt is level 16, with level 42 Enchanting, and again, all passives maxed out except "Keen Eye" and "Aspect Extraction".
I've already lost out on many thousands of gold from this, so please fix this.1 -
Kuratla✭✭✭I have 3 enchanters with 3/3 hirelings and I might get 1 or 2 Kutas per week in total. I get more tomatoes from my provisioning hirelings than that. Kutas are definitely the rarest hireling drops across all crafts.V14 Templar Argonian Healer, V12 DK Orc Tank, V2 Sorcerer High Elf DPS, V1 Templar Breton DPS, V1 Nightblade Bosmer DPS, and 3 low levels.
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Sadae✭✭✭That's 1 or 2 per week more then I've ever gotten. This isn't an issue of low returns, this is an issue of ZERO returns, ever, for many months since the game came out.0
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I've already lost out on many thousands of gold from this, so please fix this.
I will direct you to your own statement. These are optional chances for gaining materials not guaranteed daily Kuta piñatas. Since you cannot seem to tell the difference between the two and instead demand justice for your 'thousands of gold' lost, yes I will continue to call you entitled.
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