Trebuchets need a buff.

Neizir · August 2014

As of now, normal ballistas are better than trebuchets for sieging. They're quicker to reload and damage just the same. Trebuchets, however, take a long time to reload and they do the same damage as ballistas. They are also not a big threat to siege weapons like ballistas are, making trebuchets absolutely useless.

I think damage for stone trebuchets should be boosted to 4000 and fire/ice trebuchets boosted to 3000, with slightly increased damage vs. siege weapons.

NadiusMaximus · August 2014

Batista are a line of sight weapon. They shoot in a relatively straight line.

Trebuchets are more like mortars, or howitzer. They shoot in an arch, so you can hit guys on top of walls, or behind Hills if you have a forward observer.
That is a good trade off if you ask me. A small buff would be nice, but too much would make it op.

aco5712 · August 2014

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

firstdecan · August 2014

aco5712 wrote: »

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

Any chance this could be translated into English?

Soloeus · August 2014

firstdecan wrote: »

aco5712 wrote: »

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

Any chance this could be translated into English?

It means you nail the Inner and Outer to 50% at the same time, so that when the Alert about the attack occurs, its too late to port in.

jrgray93 · August 2014

aco5712 wrote: »

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

Those sure are words you just said.

Also, trebs have great utility, but I wouldn't mind them hitting a bit harder. Not much, but a bit.

Animus0724 · August 2014

I have to agree, although I believe trebs should get a range buff rather then damage. Balistas up front, trebs in the rear like it should be.

Astien · August 2014

aco5712 wrote: »

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

wat

Soloeus · August 2014

Astien wrote: »

aco5712 wrote: »

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

wat

I explained it above.

driosketch · August 2014

aco5712 wrote: »

Obviously you have never 50/50ed a keep. Trebs make it possible to 50/50 keeps and 50/50ing a keep is a extremly good tactic. We starbursted all 6 emperor keeps at the same time using this tactic.

Haha with all the whats. I'll try and translate. When you bring a keep wall down to 50% or so the icon on the map appears in flames and can no longer be traveled to it via the transit shrine. This goes for either the outer wall or the inner walls of the keep postern.

Usually what happens when you alert the owners of the keep, they ride in to try and stop you. Normally even if you can get the outer wall down by that time, you'll still have a fight to take the inner keep. 50/50 involves parking trebs closer to the outer wall and lobbing stones over it at the postern wall. In this way you take both walls down at the same time.

When he says they star bursted, I believe he means they lit up all six emperor keeps at the same time with a coordinated effort. A tactic that completely screws up the transit links while splitting the defenders' attention across multiple keeps.

Orchish · August 2014

Trebs do 500 more damage than ballista, but reload much slower so our groups prefer to use the normal ballista. However as pointed out above, you can have a couple guys start sieging the inner wall while the ballista guys siege the outer at the same time. It makes capturing a keep much more quicker.

Still, i would prefer trebs to do a bit more damage but also cost more.

aco5712 · August 2014

yeh all the explanations above are right. Sorry i forgot English isnt everybodys first language and also some terms arent used by everyone in the game. But yes 50 outer, 50 inner, boom fast keep take without them knowing