I'm actually an advocate of open, free trade and enjoy spamming zone chat with my buying and selling, I also check out kiosks for purchasing opportunities but find them to be incredibly expensive most of the time.

The strength of this system is that an item is still worth what people want to pay for it, not what groups of wealthy people decide they can manipulate it to for a quick buck. (As per a fairly well known click based game we probably all played at some point.)

The truth is the current system actually SAVES 'small business' rather than screwing us over, by creating a system where resources aren't freely available to all players, this creates profit in the crafting industry.

The blind bids also mean that anyone can win a guild store for a week-not just the richest guilds with last second outbidding.

I don't think 'the rest of us' need anything, but that's just my perspective. Selling on the free market, rather than a kiosk (no gold sink) will always make you slightly cheaper.

Not that I think gold sinks are a bad idea, they're awesome, I just don't want it to be MY gold

For the most part, i am glad they are around. However, there is one in Glenumbra at Redoubt I think that comes close to blocking access to a NPC you need to talk to for a quest.

would be nice if the guild stores offered things of value and didn't ask laughable prices.

No global auction house.

If they are going to stick with these individual guild kiosks, then they need to change something.

One possibility that they might consider is having huge market places with them, so that you can go to one place, and just browse form guild kiosk to guild kiosk.

Not perfect I know, but it would be an improvement over what we have at the minute.

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I think they're good...

I like them. I think some pricing is very fair and some is ridiculous, just like in the real world.

In particular, I like that you cannot go to a single list showing every item for sale in the game world, which would greatly reduce the game immersion for me. I like that you have to travel around hunting for items and bargains, which is very much in line with the way we travel hunting for quests and stuff. That's why we have our horsies. And feetsies.

I'm not in a guild so I can't sell stuff that way, but I'm okay with that. They are helping me find stuff that has traits I need to research. I also like the way the guild booths look: very cool.

Think about our Hirelings. They don't get to go to a single am-a-zon style site to buy the stuff they bring. Those poor bahstads go through all sorts of trouble to get our stuff. We should too. Maybe it will build our character like it has built theirs. I mean, I'd do anything to be like Pacrooti. That dude is sooo cool.

Until non guild members can also use those Kiosks to sell their goods, they are a waste in my opinion.

It just doesn't make sense that someone must enter a trading guild to actually use the global trade market. It would make much more sense if everyone could, based on the investment that person is willing to make.

Make one slot 1k gold, make them based on achievements or quest chains if you like, but to be forced into a guild to trade is silly in my opinion.

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I think they're good for the players who's guild places a huge blind bid to open their store to the public for a week, but what about the rest of us? Are we suppose to just spam zone chat or throw our stuff away? I feel kiosks were a great idea, but limiting them to giant guilds throwing blind bids seems to fail at what most of us really want. We want to place our items for sale at these kiosks, or at least that's what I want. What do you think are the strengths and weaknesses of these kiosks, and what do you think can be done for the rest of us?

I think I'd rather have a real auction house.

People are spending more gold on bidding for them than they are profiting.

I don't know that I'd buy into "only the largest guilds reap the benefits" rationale.

Mainly because I've seen plenty of guild kiosks in the big cities that have very little to sell. As well, there's really no such thing as a premium location. Unless you get one of those lone kiosks out in the middle of nowhere, then maybe, but even those are butting up next to a wayshrine. No one city is really better than another.

If anything, I've seen too many kiosks where after perusing their wares, I can't help but think... "What were they thinking buying this kiosk?"

I like em but the ui (like every other part of the ui) needs work. We should be able to make of list of things we are looking for (shopping list) prior to interacting with the vendors so that when we do interact, it automatically goes looking for them. The current drop down menus are repetitive, clunky, and slow.

I also think an auction once a week or once a month would be awesome. You could do it similarly to kiosks where guilds bid on an auctioneer spot. Each auctioneer (guild) could have an hour and run the whole thing for 12hrs or something.

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I think they're good for the players who's guild places a huge blind bid to open their store to the public for a week, but what about the rest of us? Are we suppose to just spam zone chat or throw our stuff away? I feel kiosks were a great idea, but limiting them to giant guilds throwing blind bids seems to fail at what most of us really want. We want to place our items for sale at these kiosks, or at least that's what I want. What do you think are the strengths and weaknesses of these kiosks, and what do you think can be done for the rest of us?

Smaller guilds should focus on kiosks that aren't in major cities (i.e. ones with banks). There are plenty of these scattered around the world, and some are in some pretty nifty spots. I'm sure you could get these for cheap.

I wanted some alchemy items. I visited about 6 guild stores. 3 had none, 2 had ridiculous prices, one had very good prices;.

If this was an AH, someone would have bought the reasonable priced ones and simply re-listed. Sure that person could visit all guild stores and do the same, but that'#s a lot of hassle, a one point AH makes it very easy.

I like visiting different stores to see what they have on offer.

Only thing that's a bit off so far is the stores I've visited that are completely empty (talking 24 hrs after update) I'm sure they couldn't have sold out of everything that quick, I think some guilds are selfishly purchasing them to simply stop others?

This one enjoy shopping in them, most is overpriced but you run into some gems
And yes it probably make sense to remember kiosks with good selection and decent prices.
It would probably help balance the economy too as prices are more open.