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PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT CRAGLORN!!

lord of zion
lord of zion
Soul Shriven
I have never been so frustrated playing a game in my entire life. Crag is a hot mess it is near impossible to find a group then when you finally do find one you are almost never on the same part so you end up doing the same parts over and over to help ppl get up to the part you are on then THEY HAVE TO LEAVE. i literally sit in zone chat spamming for ppl for hours only to do parts i have done and have people have to leave or just log off because i don't want to sit and spam over and over the same things to get nothing. please i beg you do something make the zone soloable something has got to change in crag i love this game one of the best i have ever played and i would like to play for many years to come but i cant find a reason to if all i do is sit in zone looking for people to do things with and there is never anyone doing anything. please i beg you help!!!
  • Arkadius
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    Yes, it's absolutely stupid how the quests were designed in that zone. That has been intensively discussed before, and we can only hope ZOS will do better with the next part of Craglorn.
  • Inversus
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    Haven't done a craglorn quest yet, don't really want to in the future
    VR14 EH Sorc
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  • lord of zion
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    craglorn really is a fun place the quests the story line its all amazing or at least what i have seen is awesome. unfortunately it is just a really big trade channel all anyone does is grind anom grind burial grind grind grind. i know its a mmo and there of course will be grinding to be done but i did all of the quests in the game and went to crag at v12 i don't know if i was late or what but no one seems to be doing anything other then grind for xp or trade its really frustrating and i truly hope they do something about it
  • cromica81_ESO
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    Hope this is taken care of by the time I get up there.
    Edited by cromica81_ESO on August 17, 2014 12:26AM
  • UrQuan
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    I've been eligible to go to Craglorn for a little while, but thought I'd wait until I got to at least VR 5 or 6. I know it's all intended for group play, but are the quests solo-able at all?
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Arkadius
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    I've been eligible to go to Craglorn for a little while, but thought I'd wait until I got to at least VR 5 or 6. I know it's all intended for group play, but are the quests solo-able at all?

    No, some of them force you to form a 4 player group. And some of them even force the players to be at the same quest step.
  • Soulshine
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    Actually no one is grinding anomalies anymore since they nerfed the XP, they are pretty much ghost towns now. And happily they finally fixed the BoE issue on trial loot so people are not spamming "WTS Warlock..." every freakin' 2 sec anymore, hehe. That being said, a lot of trade still happening but its less annoying than before the last patch.

    As for quests... well, yes. It is annoying when you hook up with people in different stages. It was like that leveling too, so no different in Craglorn unfortunately. You have to be at the same spot in the quest chain or wait for somebody to catch up....

    Obviously best thing to do is get a grp together before you start a quest and agree to do however many quests together, then bail as needed or else u always have this problem. Guild runs are always better of course since you have more options - in theory - than PuGs.
    Edited by Soulshine on August 17, 2014 12:49AM
  • UrQuan
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    Xiana wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    I've been eligible to go to Craglorn for a little while, but thought I'd wait until I got to at least VR 5 or 6. I know it's all intended for group play, but are the quests solo-able at all?

    No, some of them force you to form a 4 player group. And some of them even force the players to be at the same quest step.
    Hmm, basically this means I'll have to join a new PVE guild before I start tackling them (my main is Daggerfall, but all of my real life friends and my guild are Aldmeri Dominion, so I can't get any help there). I've managed to do group dungeons with PUGs so far, but that seems like a terrible way to do group quests like you describe. I think an active PVE guild sounds like the only real option for them.
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • Anastasia
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    craglorn really is a fun place the quests the story line its all amazing or at least what i have seen is awesome. unfortunately it is just a really big trade channel all anyone does is grind anom grind burial grind grind grind. i know its a mmo and there of course will be grinding to be done but i did all of the quests in the game and went to crag at v12 i don't know if i was late or what but no one seems to be doing anything other then grind for xp or trade its really frustrating and i truly hope they do something about it

    Agree on the Craglorn zone being pretty cool lord of zion. If grouping were any sort of priority for ZOS as far as PvE is concerned (like I thought Vet+ content as well as Craglorn was originally designed by the devs for), they would have corrected at least some of the issues players mention repeatedly about the difficulties of grouping up there...you know, do something to help with the phasing issues, add additional group e-x-p bonuses, and/or awesome loot for groups to be motivated by.

    1.) May I ask please lord: Where else in this MMO in levels below 50 did you see repeated grinding by anyone single, or in groups on dense mobs worth enough e x p and which respawn often enough to have a good ttk ratio? o:)

    2.) Did ja know ZOS was made aware of the grinding parties a long while back? Does it not seem curious that ZOS has not gone in and thinned out the obvious grind spot mobs/added to the spawn time or in some other way made it less desirable for player content grinders to keep doing it? (*)

    I wonder. (*)

  • rophez_ESO
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    My guildy and I spent about 2 hours duoing one of the main story quests in Craglorn, cause we couldn't find 2 other people that needed it. We died a lot, but it was kind of a fun challenge.

    It was awesome when we turned in the final step and got a green cloth hat and 300 gold. Epic, my brother!
  • UrQuan
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    Anastasia wrote: »
    1.) May I ask please lord: Where else in this MMO in levels below 50 did you see repeated grinding by anyone single, or in groups on dense mobs worth enough e x p and which respawn often enough to have a good ttk ratio? o:)
    I've seen groups grinding mobs in pretty much all of the public dungeons. No idea if they were doing it for loot or xp or both.

    Personally I don't understand people who grind. To me that's boring and just not fun. Having said that, I don't see anything wrong with it either, as long as it's not an obvious exploit (and most grinding is absolutely not an exploit). If people want to grind, let them. I won't be doing it myself, but other people are allowed to like different things from me and play differently from me :D
    Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
    Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
    Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
    Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
    J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
    Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
    Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
    Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
    Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
    Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
    Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
    Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
    Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
    Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
    Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
    Someone stole my sweetroll
  • dharbert
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    It may not be easy to find a quest group in Craglorn, but it's extremely easy to find a grind group there. There are always groups running Anoms, Burials and Tower.

    I haven't bothered to do any Craglorn quests yet, and probably won't.

    The other good thing about Craglorn is there is an insane amount of harvestable resources and chests all over the place.
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Join a guild, build a group from your guildmates. Stop relying on PUGs = problem solved.

    NEXT!!!!
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  • BrassRazoo
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    Craglorn is just a waste of space.
    It is a zone for power levelling and little else.
    The biggest joke of an expansion ever.
    Forced group questing is the first major content update?
    Just sad.
  • AlnilamE
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Anastasia wrote: »
    1.) May I ask please lord: Where else in this MMO in levels below 50 did you see repeated grinding by anyone single, or in groups on dense mobs worth enough e x p and which respawn often enough to have a good ttk ratio? o:)
    I've seen groups grinding mobs in pretty much all of the public dungeons. No idea if they were doing it for loot or xp or both.

    (...)

    Or for fun! Or they are running from one boss spot to the next because one of their guildies is missing them to get the achievement.

    Running through public dungeons is one of my favourite group activities. :-)
    The Moot Councillor
  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
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    Also been in Crag for 5 days still no quest done cuz ppl only grind there
  • Cody
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    craglorn is a failure in my opinion. Between the phasing issues that I keep hearing of(and have experienced myself) and the fact that all people want to do there, is grind, the zone is a failure. I will give upper craglorn a go regardless, hopefully its not like this craglorn.
  • lathbury
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    Just allow ppl go back and do previous parts of the chain set the quest to the group leaders part in that quest.
  • coryevans_3b14_ESO
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    Hope this is taken care of by the time I get up there.

    Don't count on it being fixed. The devs are so friggin stubborn. In some ways that's a good thing. When it comes to phasing, it isn't.
  • Muletide
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    I wouldn't say failure, I have a lot of fun in Craglorn. The way for players to connect for content is what sucks.

    Saturday I got into a great group via Zone Chat. We hit all the delve achievements, Craglorn skyshards, and quested along the way when we could. It was a static group for the most part with only a couple swaps.

    I wish they would develop and fine tune the group finder tool.

    Side note: As much as people say there are no need for tanks in the end-game, I get picked up in a milli-second when I send tell with "DK tank/resto." DPS classes are a dime a dozen.
  • AlnilamE
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    I wish they would make the dungeons for groups larger than 4. I was running around with friends last week and we were 4 already and trying to get skyshards and this other player asked to be added to our group, but then we wouldn't have been able to get into a dungeon together.

    :-(
    The Moot Councillor
  • robertlive2014
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    Muletide wrote: »
    I wouldn't say failure, I have a lot of fun in Craglorn. The way for players to connect for content is what sucks.

    Saturday I got into a great group via Zone Chat. We hit all the delve achievements, Craglorn skyshards, and quested along the way when we could. It was a static group for the most part with only a couple swaps.

    I wish they would develop and fine tune the group finder tool.

    Side note: As much as people say there are no need for tanks in the end-game, I get picked up in a milli-second when I send tell with "DK tank/resto." DPS classes are a dime a dozen.

    I don't think Craglorn is a failure either. However, most people I've discussed this with agree that players should have been required to complete all the VR zones first and hit VR10 before being allowed to travel there. You would be surprised how many VR12 players have no idea how to play their classes because their characters were leveled by grinding with a zerg.
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