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Player Housing! Y/N When
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Zeni, Will one of you please only tell us that player housing is coming! And if possible, what time frame are we looking at. Reason I am asking is because we deserve to know. I understand you can get into details and I am not asking that. Some of us must be told from the horse's mouth! lol... Its just that I want this in the game soooo bad that!! If you tell me! I will know its true. "Make me a believer"
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Jack-0✭✭✭✭✭Yes, housing please. If UO can do it so can ESO. It'd put an end to the storage issues I see people moaning about all the time! Put housing in a massive pvp-enabled zone and let us duke it out for the coolest plots.2 -
I don't think there has been any official word, so I would assume NOT "Soon" (tm). Just keep an eye out on the road ahead for housing. I would love the idea too, but there are many other aspects of the game that are documented but still in the distant future.NA MegaServer
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭It'll come, but probably no sooner than after having had two anniversaries to celebrate. So 2 years plus is the current guesstimate."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"2 -
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✭Like the othes said , i assume it is coming , but many of us wont be playing the game anymore to even see it.
With that said , i hope they also add one day NPC companions to the game."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭They don't have a time frame to share. It's still just "something they'd like to do" sometime in the future. They can't give a time frame for something they haven't even taken to the drawing board yet.1 -
Elad13✭✭✭To the op question....yes we will get it.....no we won't get it soon enough and when....is when the subs drop low enough and hopes are it will be a resub income need.
Hence all good things will only come when they need or want more cash....3 -
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✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Like the othes said , i assume it is coming , but many of us wont be playing the game anymore to even see it.
With that said , i hope they also add one day NPC companions to the game.
I see why you won't be playing it, considering you want a CPU companion instead of a real person. It is an MMORPG after all.Edited by Dominoid on August 14, 2014 3:49PM2 -
Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
It's always in the eye of the beholder, wether the ultimate outcome (if there's one) is perceived as good or bad.
But if housing would be implemented in a way, where we could raid and raze other (guild) cities, now that would be something, wouldn't it?Edited by Nazon_Katts on August 14, 2014 3:53PM"You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"3 -
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✭✭✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
It's always in the eye of the beholder, wether the ultimate outcome (if there's one) is perceived as good or bad.
But if housing would be implemented in a way, where we could raid and raze other (guild) cities, now that would be something now wouldn't it?
Yes and No. It's kind of a cool idea but at the same time if I spent a ton of time to build my house only to have someone come along and tear it down or loot it then I'd be P.O'ed. Now if they had housing in PVE areas for those of us who just want a house and then maybe add some Player housing to PVP where you defend the homestead or your house is protected by walls with other peoples houses then that could be cool. So make your own little kingdom.
Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on August 14, 2014 3:54PM2 -
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✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
It's always in the eye of the beholder, wether the ultimate outcome (if there's one) is perceived as good or bad.
But if housing would be implemented in a way, where we could raid and raze other (guild) cities, now that would be something, wouldn't it?
hmm no. That's something that would probably compel people to being tied to the game 24/7. It shouldn't feel like a job, and it ultimately would.
Razing towns would be fun, but not if people have to invest time and money into them and feel like they have to babysit them at all hours of the night to protect them. Then it just becomes a griefing mechanic for most.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
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✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Like the othes said , i assume it is coming , but many of us wont be playing the game anymore to even see it.
With that said , i hope they also add one day NPC companions to the game.
I see why you won't be playing it, considering you want a CPU companion instead of a real person. It is an MMORPG after all.
I would rather have a CPU companion than some random any day of the week.
Ofc , not that i would even consider a player a companion , they are there only for as long as i need them to beat content X , then bye."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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WyndStryke✭✭✭Zeni, Will one of you please only tell us that player housing is coming! ...
Player housing could be one of many different things.
For example, if they implemented houses which can be built & decorated to templates as per the Hearthfire expansion pack for Skyrim, except without storage, would you be happy with that? Or are you looking for something else?
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✭WyndStryke wrote: »Zeni, Will one of you please only tell us that player housing is coming! ...
Player housing could be one of many different things.
For example, if they implemented houses which can be built & decorated to templates as per the Hearthfire expansion pack for Skyrim, except without storage, would you be happy with that? Or are you looking for something else?
I loved hearthfire for that. I would kill for that system. Someday, I suppose.
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The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
Pretty much this.
This topic resurfaces multiple times a week. In short yes we're going to get it but it hasn't been revealed when. As it stands I'd rather they focus on endgame content / PvP over housing but when they do ultimately release a housing system I want a Telvanni Tower
. "Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭Oh, IF there's guild cities and IF there ever will be guild vs guild wars, it should be strictly consensual, of course. I think ESO's player base mainly are PvE players, so such a concept shouldn't be forced on anyone in this game."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"2
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Xnemesis✭✭✭✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »Oh, IF there's guild cities and IF there ever will be guild vs guild wars, it should be strictly consensual, of course. I think ESO's player base mainly are PvE players, so such a concept shouldn't be forced on anyone in this game.
I doubt a game that was widely advertised as an AvAvA PvP game has a wider PvE following than PvP. Especially with how cake the Raids are. Their aren't really even any Progression guilds because you can go in on any given night and clear the raids. Its not like guilds are going to get stuck on a certain boss for months. PvE is very casual and PvP is the heart that drives this game.2 -
Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭Hm, if the PvP population truly should be the bigger part of the player base, this game is in even more trouble than I might have feared.
Campaign server cap is around 2k and usually just two campaigns reach cap. The rest still seems under populated, but let's just lump in another 2k for those. So we have 6k on each side of the pond and around12k total. Let's say there's an imbalance and there's actually more people PvPing on US and just go with 15k max concurrent users on AvAvA servers.
Usually, there's a 1:5 and up to 1:10 ratio of population cap to player accounts per server. Older MMO servers usually were around a 3k pop cap and hosted a maximum of 10k accounts, even. You can see this ratio with relative ease when looking at EvE's stats, which currently maxes around 40k and has about 400k subs, probably less, since the max player reached was 65k at around the time they've been over half a million subs, thus probably closer to a 1:8 'cap':subs ratio.
So I think it's safe to just work with 1:10 and a 15k max concurrent users, so my (hopefully educated) guesstimate leaves us with approximately 150k subs for the PvP experience.
Since I believe I was rather generous, I actually believe it's quite a few people less and so here's hoping there's a considerable amount more just enjoying the PvE of ESO, as this would be very much needed for the overall health of this game."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"1 -
Dirtybyrd✭✭✭✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »It'll come, but probably no sooner than after having had two anniversaries to celebrate. So 2 years plus is the current guesstimate.
Ouch, I will be lost for them 2 yrs! lol... I guess I will make an inn out in the woods my home
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Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭I'll be living large elsewhere before that happens, yep.
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✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »Hm, if the PvP population truly should be the bigger part of the player base, this game is in even more trouble than I might have feared.
Campaign server cap is around 2k and usually just two campaigns reach cap. The rest still seems under populated, but let's just lump in another 2k for those. So we have 6k on each side of the pond and around12k total. Let's say there's an imbalance and there's actually more people PvPing on US and just go with 15k max concurrent users on AvAvA servers.
Usually, there's a 1:5 and up to 1:10 ratio of population cap to player accounts per server. Older MMO servers usually were around a 3k pop cap and hosted a maximum of 10k accounts, even. You can see this ratio with relative ease when looking at EvE's stats, which currently maxes around 40k and has about 400k subs, probably less, since the max player reached was 65k at around the time they've been over half a million subs, thus probably closer to a 1:8 'cap':subs ratio.
So I think it's safe to just work with 1:10 and a 15k max concurrent users, so my (hopefully educated) guesstimate leaves us with approximately 150k subs for the PvP experience.
Since I believe I was rather generous, I actually believe it's quite a few people less and so here's hoping there's a considerable amount more just enjoying the PvE of ESO, as this would be very much needed for the overall health of this game.
you are following the assumption that ALL pvp players pvp ALL the time, and not fqactoring in the long queues that have been happening to a good chunk of people.
Some people that pvp aren't even dedicated pvp'rs, they pvp casually.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.2 -
Nazon_Katts✭✭✭✭✭Nope, quite the contrary. There's however, as I said, a certain ratio of max players to actual accounts. It's just an educated guess, nonetheless. Casuals and cross players are, of course, on both sides. The number of truly dedicated PvP accounts that don't do anything but PvP would be much lower."You've probably figured that out by now. Let's hope so. Or we're in real trouble... and out come the intestines. And I skip rope with them!"1
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✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »Nope, quite the contrary. There's however, as I said, a certain ratio of max players to actual accounts. It's just an educated guess, nonetheless. Casuals and cross players are, of course, on both sides. The number of truly dedicated PvP accounts that don't do anything but PvP would be much lower.
well, I could agree with that.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
Dirtybyrd✭✭✭✭Nazon_Katts wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
It's always in the eye of the beholder, wether the ultimate outcome (if there's one) is perceived as good or bad.
But if housing would be implemented in a way, where we could raid and raze other (guild) cities, now that would be something, wouldn't it?
Indeed, But I would hope they give player choose to wear you make your home! So if you make it in a pvp area you know what to expect... and in a none pvp area! an pve area you could just chill without that.Dirtybyrd0 -
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✭I don't understand why they put in all these trophies if they weren't planning on putting in player housing pretty early. It's just annoying that you have all these trophies that just waste inventory slots with nowhere to put them or any use for them. Not to mention the treasure maps that were supposed to be this great bonus thing, but just end up wasting tons of inventory slots. And the pets, etc.
Would love to have housing if for nothing else than to have a place to store/display all this stuff that I don't really need that's eating up my very limited inventory.1 -
Dirtybyrd✭✭✭✭WyndStryke wrote: »Zeni, Will one of you please only tell us that player housing is coming! ...
Player housing could be one of many different things.
For example, if they implemented houses which can be built & decorated to templates as per the Hearthfire expansion pack for Skyrim, except without storage, would you be happy with that? Or are you looking for something else?
Yes! to be honest, I would be happy to start out in the next couple of months with a shotgun house! a shack style place! just to have a home. It is needed at this time due to nothing much to do other than play around in towns. I like my chill time. And that will be the best for many of us. So Yes can we just get a "little" starter house? just till the main ones come out.
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