No, thank you.

We have no need nor want for your items peddler.

Go and sell your stuff to some other game.

They have this now.

Venture to Grahtwood at full pace in unfamiliar territory. I guarantee your mount will become airborne.


I do not think the idea is without merit. They should have the same response as the current mounts do to the environment, That is, the first time you get attacked by a sea gull, your mount bales on you...at 1000'

Oh, and you only get to buy it once.

Problem solved.

magnusnet wrote: »

I don't know what's up with WOW (never played that sh**) but it seems to me that the issue was anyone could easily obtain a flying mount.

No. The issue was that flight makes everything better, and people don't want everything to be better for everyone else. They only want everything to be better for themselves.

Flight might not make sense in ESO, but I consider this a design flaw in ESO. And TES in general. There's literally no logical reason why any game would neglect to include flight.

Forget more mounts, especially flying lizards. Give us underwater swimming.

If implementing a flight system screws up existing quests, that's due to design flaw with the existing quest/storyline itself. It is a form of transport/pathing system which adds another layer of functionality to the game, whether the devs want to implement it or not is another matter. Lets just say for instance the devs do, one day, decide to (note: hypothetically) implement the flight system, they'll of course adapt the existing quests to ensure everything runs smoothly and according to plan.

Invisible boundaries in some games these days work on a "rubber-band" mechanic, where the further you fly off-bounds the slower you get (though as the player you wouldn't notice a thing) and eventually become so slow you're not moving at all (giving off the illusion that you're still on the move), rather than a straight-up barrier that stop you right on your track and break any immersion.


btw I'm against mounted flight (anything other than Dwemer Skyships) because it would break lore. just wish to reinforce some of the against-flight arguments here.

Slaunyeh wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

Being able to skip areas, enemies, and bypass story necessary paths by flying isn't "better". It can break the story, break quests, and cause major issues.

Sure, it can. But that's only really a problem if you've designed a game where:

A ) You can break the story by "by passing content".
B ) Content is boring enough that people actually want to bypass it.

I mean, it's not like you can't bypass content today. You have sneak. You can just take your horse and ride straight through an enemy camp and odds are pretty good you never get knocked off. Bypassing content is a thing that is already happening, with or without flight. My advice? Stop designing your games so that this is a problem.

JKorr wrote: »

There are other games that don't include flight. It isn't necessary to every game.

Admittedly, my previous post was kinda-sorta tongue-in-cheek hyperbolic. I'm not saying every game should have flight or suck, but I do maintain that roughly every "issue" with flight ever brought up is really an issue of a poorly designed game, rather than an inherent problem with the ability to fly. There can be good reasons to not include the option to fly in your game, but "well, then you could just skip these two hundred boring fights on the way to the real fight" really shouldn't be one of them.

There's a difference however. When you sneak or ride, you are on the ground. You are, hopefully, hitting trigger points that update your quest. Flying, if the game doesn't have that taken into account, won't do that. I DON'T KNOW whether ESO does that or not. I do know not hitting trigger points have messed up quests in Bethesda's ES games. People used to get really annoyed on the forums when the suggestion to fix a problem quest was "move all over the tent/yurt, or push up against the back wall until your journal updates" until they tried it, and it worked. Or the suggestion to go a few yards past the quest giver until the journal updates, because they were missing the trigger point.

I do sneak at times. Running into a large group of enemies with healers waving a flaming axe and yelling at the top of your lungs is a good way to find the nearest wayshrine. I hate killing the senche cats [although I STILL believe those should be pahmar, not senche] so I've figured out how far away I have to stay to not trigger a fight. Know what though? Last night I found a new quest and a section of the map that I accidentally skipped, by sneaking and avoiding an area. I was trying to make sure I hit all the quests in an area; if people can skip content without ever travelling the ground I think many will miss conent, then complain about the lack of content.

Not to mention, if they make any flying mounts, that will only increase the complaining about just about everyting. Skyrim was/is an example. People wanted to be able to fly on a dragon. They added it. Complaints ensued regarding controls, where they could fly, why they couldn't fight from dragonback, and how the game dealt with travelling long distances on a dragon. Personally, I hope they never add flying mounts. I would, however, like to see a nice saddle guar....or a pack guar...

Still no! Levitation, Water Walking, increased jump height from spells sure, but no flying mounts please.