Inbalance in the Campaigns

Durham · August 2014

1 has a 120-150 Q
1 Is all AD 7 Day
1 Is Either all Red or Blue depending on the time of day. (14 day) I wish people would get off the 7 day ....

Not balanced...

We try to PVP on the 14 day ... Has not been fun except a few nights out of the week...
Wabbajack was 10 times better then this place

Missing Wabba ! The fights between SEJ and Allyssia were just awsome ....

5 of us would like to play the 30 day campaign since its the most balanced and since we all work and only play 2 to 3 hours a night 120-150 Q is not acceptable ... The other two campaigns are weak and unbalanced in comparison ... The 14 Days is better if you are red or blue if you are yellow its pretty weak... The 7 day is just plain bad !

Not really blaming anyone... Not sure what can be done .... Maybe doing away with the 7 day or something not sure ....

gurluasb16_ESO · August 2014

I have to agree, I am Haderus (7day) And it's ALWAYS Aldmeri dominated.
Which sucks, imagine when Imperial city comes, no one but Aldmeri will have access to it.

Komma · August 2014

If the ad from haderus would come over to chillrend we would have 2 great campaigns. Seems like a bunch of ad ran over there when we fell behind on chill. Haderus was locked ad tonight. EP and DC never went over 1 bar.

demonlkojipub19_ESO · August 2014

If we had AD come to Bow of Shadows we would have 2 great campaigns too.

Chillrend gets the lock soon after Thornblade.

Durham · August 2014

Yes Chillrend gets locked for Blue and Red ... Yellow is only 2 bars tonight with the others locked... On the weekend I think Yellowlocked late SAT night and you saw some balance but it was bad Sun and Today for Yellow on Chillrend..

I still do not understand the yellow on the 7 day !!! there was 3 bars of yellow there tonight but hardly anyone to fight ... Extreme imbalance on that server IMO

Its frustrating we have enough population to have 3+ good campaigns I wish we could fix this

The 7 day is joke IMO and the 14 day struggles at times ... other 2 I have not tried but all I see if 1 bar on them

My last home was wabba and the 5 others others that I play with most miss it

Honestly wish there was no change ! Tonight we had all logged by 10pm and hour earlier then we did before the campaign change... 1 of us was extreamly frustrated at the lack of good fights .... 1 decided to change home to the 30 day and just go into Q at 6pm and hope to be in the campaign by 7pm...

I cannot do the 100+ Q ... I cannot sit for 15mins to 30 mins and watch for camp to go on fire by the gates on 7 day lol ... The 14 is the really the only place and it can play and it has hellish imbalances at times ....

SongOfMyPeople · August 2014

But then how would all those Haderus people keep their buffs! /sarc

I play on Chill too and its sad to see that it became so imbalanced do to AD leaving and a few DC guilds switching, it's pretty much a red map until EP logs on later in the day. I wish some from Thornblade would come over as well. When pop is even, Chillrend can definitely rival Thornblade.

Krinaman · August 2014

The underlying problem is the population imbalance between the factions. I'm not sure how you fix that.

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

We've been trying to stir stuff up on Haderus to get the AD to want to come to Chillrend and fight, but...

In the end I get a lot of hate /tells about 'GTFO off our buffs' and they'll lock the population of the campaign to take a single keep (admittedly, it's usually Faregyl or BB or BM), but c'mon.

They're definitely not looking for a fight, but a crutch.

Halrloprillalar · August 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

We've been trying to stir stuff up on Haderus to get the AD to want to come to Chillrend and fight, but...

In the end I get a lot of hate /tells about 'GTFO off our buffs' and they'll lock the population of the campaign to take a single keep (admittedly, it's usually Faregyl or BB or BM), but c'mon.

They're definitely not looking for a fight, but a crutch.

You have to admit that pop-locking EP on Chillrend isn't helping matters

driosketch · August 2014

Haderus is solid yellow. What is everyone even doing over there to make it three bars? If it was just for the buffs you'd think players would guest over to Chill or something.

Meanwhile the non-vet campaign is pretty fun and active in the evening despite being single bars across. Especially now that players have figured out how to organize and push to take keeps.

SongOfMyPeople · August 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

We've been trying to stir stuff up on Haderus to get the AD to want to come to Chillrend and fight, but...

In the end I get a lot of hate /tells about 'GTFO off our buffs' and they'll lock the population of the campaign to take a single keep (admittedly, it's usually Faregyl or BB or BM), but c'mon.

They're definitely not looking for a fight, but a crutch.

You have to admit that pop-locking EP on Chillrend isn't helping matters

Yeah, I was on Sun (before primetime) when AD had one bar. EP just took Fare then they all left, so we decided to try and take it back. Got the outer and inner walls down with only like 5 EP there and then out of nowhere 70+ EP zerg into the keep to stop the maybe 20 AD that were there. Pretty much shattered the pug group and the few of us that were ungrouped. So I'd have to agree with you.

bitaken · August 2014

I'm on BOW today messing with them :-)

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

We've been trying to stir stuff up on Haderus to get the AD to want to come to Chillrend and fight, but...

In the end I get a lot of hate /tells about 'GTFO off our buffs' and they'll lock the population of the campaign to take a single keep (admittedly, it's usually Faregyl or BB or BM), but c'mon.

They're definitely not looking for a fight, but a crutch.

You have to admit that pop-locking EP on Chillrend isn't helping matters

It doesn't, no. It's why we've been spending more and more time off-campaign.

1Otega · August 2014

Guesting needs to go away, tbh. It's the heart of the problem.

You choose a campaign, you stay there until the campaign is done. Then you can choose to stay or go somewhere else.

Too easy to move around through all the campaigns and, if you're organized, pop lock one or two.

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

bitaken wrote: »

I'm on BOW today messing with them :-)

Hahah. Tell me how that goes, later. I hope you have fun!

Halrloprillalar · August 2014

bitaken wrote: »

I'm on BOW today messing with them :-)

Yesssss tell Zaz and Kage I said hi

bitaken · August 2014

Made about 75K on Farragut keep defense. Not sure where we goin next on the map. Have to keep them guessing

Funny part is how Kage's ego is so out of control he is telling me that he will send more people to Chill now. And about how EP wins chill and can use it as a buff server now if we decide to mess up bow. It's just gross how people get so hyped up.

Oh...and did you all know that AP is useless? It's a fail currency with no value so he doesn't care that my 12 man day crew farmed the 40 EP it took to dig us out of Farragut for over an hour and a half and made 3 separate defense ticks > 4K one of 7400 on the keep.

Besides - we got to pick up and drop the scroll like 40 times to taunt and harass them.

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Made about 75K on Farragut keep defense. Not sure where we goin next on the map. Have to keep them guessing

Farra's probably one of Red's most defensible home keeps, with Chalman/BRK coming right after. Shame that KC/Arrius are such dumpsters due to their elevated & fortified resources.

Drakelowe's also set up nicely for defense, just waaaaaaaaaaay out of the way.

Thechemicals · August 2014

Pretty epic and close on Throneblade. A lot closer than the scores were in Wabba.

Ifthir_ESO · August 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

In the end I get a lot of hate /tells about 'GTFO off our buffs' .

Every AD guild running trials will be pissed if you take their huge PVE buffs by taking keeps in their home PvP campaign.

Agrippa_Invisus · August 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

In the end I get a lot of hate /tells about 'GTFO off our buffs' .

Every AD guild running trials will be pissed if you take their huge PVE buffs by taking keeps in their home PvP campaign.

My sympathy level concerning that is quite low.

Ezareth · August 2014

I say take the EP and DC zergs swarms on Chillrend and go to the 7 day compaign and push the garbage carebearing AD there. What started as a fun and balanced campaign turned into a bunch of zerg emp-swapping trash.

You guys are killing the Chillrend campaign and the PVP in the game as well.

Guesting just needs to go away, it has done nothing but ruin PVP for 3 months now.

DovresMalven · August 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Guesting just needs to go away, it has done nothing but ruin PVP for 3 months now.

I think this would be a good idea myself, but many wouldn't want their buffs taken away. To that I say, Undaunted.

mjspnrb18_ESO · August 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

I'm on BOW today messing with them :-)

Yesssss tell Zaz and Kage I said hi

Hi!

, haven't entered Bow yet, sent guildies there the moment campaign opened but when it started turning red so easily they pulled out and we went to Haderus, where the farm is real but the keeps are not ever flipping lol

GRxKnight · August 2014

Agrippa TKO is usually on chill now anyway and next rotation we'll be making it or home so just wait another 5 days or so. Daawnbreaker 2.0

SBR_QuorTek · August 2014

Just make 1 campaign only to chose from, 30 day duration.

Increase the map by 10x as well as 10x more keeps, farms etc.

Increase the player caps 10x for each faction

Then people can't really hide anywhere.. except for the exceptional increased map in size and also would make campaigns way more interesting having X amount of additional objectives to focus on.

GRxKnight · August 2014

SBR_QuorTek wrote: »

Just make 1 campaign only to chose from, 30 day duration.

Increase the map by 10x as well as 10x more keeps, farms etc.

Increase the player caps 10x for each faction

Then people can't really hide anywhere.. except for the exceptional increased map in size and also would make campaigns way more interesting having X amount of additional objectives to focus on.

Do you want a crap ton of lag and fps problems?

k4vet_ESO · August 2014

1. Add 1 more of each campaign.
2. Get rid of guesting period!
3. Get rid of travel to player!

2. and 3. option.... Emp buffs do not carry over to other servers.

Anazasi · August 2014

fixing the population issue is not really a issue. It's called metrics. ZOS is totally aware of the populations times played and campaigns played on. They are simply not reading the data. Mind you with the lag and crashes at this point its probably not worth worrying about. Now to fix the issue its rather simple, you take the average number of player to get a base line population. Then you decide what the SERVERS can actually handle. You adjust hard caps based on that. If the servers can handle 600 then you place a 200 player cap. If you have 2400 players you open 4 campaigns. I do not know why they want to make this so hard. Yeah It would be great to have just one campaign that everyone could play on but obviously that doesn't work. The servers CAN NOT Handle it. Make two 30 day campaigns and remove all but a 7 day campaign and move forward. I think the majority of the player base thought it was crazy to do what was done simply based on what we know.

GRxKnight · August 2014

k4vet_ESO wrote: »

1. Add 1 more of each campaign.
2. Get rid of guesting period!
3. Get rid of travel to player!

Only problem I have with that is what happens if you or your guild chooses a one sided campaign? You'd have to enable the home swapping again

Halrloprillalar · August 2014

Guesting would be fine if buffs were removed (or apply only from current).

Want buffs? Work it.