Beyond done with broken builds being released in this game

Malveria · August 2014

I am so fed up with the fact that builds, or skills, being so ridiculously broken, and it being pointed out that it's broken, but they still get released.

Tired of losing friends in PVP in this game because there is clearly no care for the balance in this game.

Nightblade vampires that can run faster than max horses while stealthed? Templars who can spam sun shield and be literally unkillable by 4 other vet 12s? I don't know if Zenimax is ignoring the feedback, or just think it's wrong. But this is beyond stupid.

Do your job Zenimax. Stop distracting us with emotes and start fixing your broken game builds.

Azraeel · August 2014

If all classes are OP, do you all guys just have a staring contest?

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO · August 2014

The day they allow people to copy their chars to the PTS is the day we can test these things.

ATM the PTS is a bit of a joke.

Cody · August 2014

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

The day they allow people to copy their chars to the PTS is the day we can test these things.

ATM the PTS is a bit of a joke.

whats it like?

zmanu · August 2014

NookyZooky wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

The day they allow people to copy their chars to the PTS is the day we can test these things.

ATM the PTS is a bit of a joke.

whats it like?

A bit of a joke.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · August 2014

so DK and sorcs have been OP forever now, and now templar and NB are OP to...
all classes have different strengths and weaknesses, otherwise just throw all classes out the window and be done with it

TehMagnus · August 2014

sounds like a L2P issue for me.

Ser Lobo · August 2014

I keep hearing about dragonknights switching on a skill that allows them to regen insanely well and fight off half-a-dozen players at once.

And sorcerers bolt escaping into and out of fights so quick you stay stun locked.

Now that I'm hearing complaints about nightblades and templars ... funny, I'm starting to feel like maybe their IS a balance being made.

TehMagnus · August 2014

It's not balance, all classes have broken combos, people that get owned by them just cry instead of learning how to play against them. That's the issue.

xMovingTarget · August 2014

When everybody is OP now to an extend, the balance is actually right.

GwaynLoki · August 2014

NookyZooky wrote: »

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

The day they allow people to copy their chars to the PTS is the day we can test these things.

ATM the PTS is a bit of a joke.

whats it like?

You can only pick DC and the three races that belong there. You start with crafting at level 1, guild abilities start at level 1. So you can't try any of the crafted sets without leveling crafting to 50, no food buffs without Provisioning at 50 etc. Not to forget that you can't actually try any of your builds in PvP against other players since all start in DC.

Yamakaziing · August 2018

They ripped the challenge out of this game a while ago

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · August 2018

Yamakaziing wrote: »

They ripped the challenge out of this game a while ago

Like this thread is from 2014, why reply to it?

geonsocal · August 2018

timeless???

DemonDruaga · August 2018

Necroed blazing templars

f047ys3v3n · August 2018

Anything can be OP.

Take decent build, add cheat engine, bingo bango bongo, OP.

Had a stam NB cloak a full 10 times today as I revealed him with a ranged AOE and he was pounded on by several players. One vigor between cloaks and he was at full health several times. Fortunately, he did not have forward momentum and was not also speed hacking so he was always slowed and eventually killed though it took a lot for me, a high sustain magica toon, to keep my mag up enough to keep revealing him. Pots, heavy attacks, the whole nine yards. Cloak is not OP, cheat engine is. There are so many abilities that reveal cloak that I could not name them all. I have 4 on my bar just as a matter of course though.

I watched a who knows what CE user who had somehow gotten into a keep that you can't leap into (which had not been held by his alliance for hours in a locked campaign so I really doubt he was hiding in there) calmly block and walk around upstairs for the entire time his alliance sieged the well defended (20+) keep. He held block the entire time. I saw as many as 6 players on him when I got upstairs. I expect he was up there a while before that as most were not attacking him and players would only hit him so long before being killed or giving up, ignoring him, and healing or resing the players he attacked. He was not entirely invincible but took almost insignificant damage and healed to full with any one healing cast. He also occasionally cast abilities of such power that he killed 5 or 6 players during this. Realistically, the siege was successful because of how disruptive this cheater was. It was probably the most successful CE build I have ever seen. Might as well have been a god mode code in a single player game.

People get killed by this or that and say it is OP. Some abilities and builds are better than others but 95% of the unbalance in this game on both the PVE and PVP side is cheating and who can really even see that little bit that is actually unbalanced abilities. Any attention paid to balancing classes and abilities while cheat engine is ignored is purely a waste of time.

_Ahala_ · August 2018

Nightblades moving faster than horses in stealth and blazeplars actually killing opponents... wow, must have been horrible to have so much class diversity

shaielzafine · August 2018

Y'all necroed this, but that's funny because the game still favors some classes over others in PvP. Is it the same combat team as before or did they ever get new people in and it's still in the same state??

Emma_Overload · August 2018

I wish we could go back through time and tell OP about Sloads and Zaan and all the other dumb proc sets!

Lexxypwns · August 2018

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Anything can be OP.

Take decent build, add cheat engine, bingo bango bongo, OP.

Had a stam NB cloak a full 10 times today as I revealed him with a ranged AOE and he was pounded on by several players. One vigor between cloaks and he was at full health several times. Fortunately, he did not have forward momentum and was not also speed hacking so he was always slowed and eventually killed though it took a lot for me, a high sustain magica toon, to keep my mag up enough to keep revealing him. Pots, heavy attacks, the whole nine yards. Cloak is not OP, cheat engine is. There are so many abilities that reveal cloak that I could not name them all. I have 4 on my bar just as a matter of course though.

I watched a who knows what CE user who had somehow gotten into a keep that you can't leap into (which had not been held by his alliance for hours in a locked campaign so I really doubt he was hiding in there) calmly block and walk around upstairs for the entire time his alliance sieged the well defended (20+) keep. He held block the entire time. I saw as many as 6 players on him when I got upstairs. I expect he was up there a while before that as most were not attacking him and players would only hit him so long before being killed or giving up, ignoring him, and healing or resing the players he attacked. He was not entirely invincible but took almost insignificant damage and healed to full with any one healing cast. He also occasionally cast abilities of such power that he killed 5 or 6 players during this. Realistically, the siege was successful because of how disruptive this cheater was. It was probably the most successful CE build I have ever seen. Might as well have been a god mode code in a single player game.

People get killed by this or that and say it is OP. Some abilities and builds are better than others but 95% of the unbalance in this game on both the PVE and PVP side is cheating and who can really even see that little bit that is actually unbalanced abilities. Any attention paid to balancing classes and abilities while cheat engine is ignored is purely a waste of time.

You know most of the previously client side function has been moved server side right? Cheat engine can only do a small number of things still and only one thing you listed in here could even be possible to be caused by CE.

Your info on the NB disproves CE use because one of the few things it can still do is allow you to reposition our of a bad location.

Heimpai · August 2018

Read it..then looked at the date..yeah i started 4 years after this thread

Gilvoth · August 2018

sneak speed was Good back then.
Zenimax,
please increase sneak speeds to where they used to be.

Reverb · August 2018

I didn't notice the date until I got to the words Sun Shield. This thread was made around the time I could stand still with Blazing Shield and just bash people to death. It was gloriously broken. Right after this time was the "dress and a stick" vamp DK era, also gloriously broken. Warlock, Seducer, impulse and bats.

We've come a long way baby.

Lake · August 2018

Note the OP's last post was in February this year. Looks like they weren't done after all!