NookyZooky wrote: »

Former emperors should not get squat, harsh as it sounds. I would say the title could be a cool bragging right.... but it has been ruined by all the emperor farmers:(

Mortuum wrote: »

Nihili wrote: »

I'm going to offer a different perspective on what you guys are saying, but just to make it clear, this perspective isn't necessarily a view I hold, it is just one I am sharing with you guys

I don't see that many former emperors, and you guys make "farming" it sound like the easiest thing ever. If that was the case why aren't all of you former emperors?
The fact that some people can dedicate enough time to becoming an emperor, and "farm" it, shouldn't be enough justification for its nerfing. A LOT in this game is farming. I "farm" gold and xp on a regular basis - I suppose we should nerf that too, just because I can "unfairly farm" 100,000 gold? Nerf xp too, because I can reach VR in a couple days worth of gameplay. Just because someone gets something in a unconventional way, doesn't mean that method is wrong. But maybe in this case it is wrong. Which leads me to my next point.

What is wrong about having Emperorship farmable? "Oh, you see it's because 1) emperors are incredibly overpowered which leads to 2) there shouldn't be many emperors/former emperors, otherwise it breaks the game".
The interesting point about this argument is that it makes the emperorship skill-line unreachable, and if reached you possess it only temporarily. You're calling for the eradication of former emperors. In other words you're saying that once an emperor has been crowned by capturing 6 keeps, the moment he loses one of those keeps he can't keep his emperor skill-line. And how easy is it to lose one of those keeps? It can happen overnight. In short, you get to be emperor for an hour and after that you lose it mate, and "oh you want to keep some of your powers? nope nope, you see the community complained your a tad overpowered babe".

Why bother getting emperorship if you'll lose it nearly the next day? Why have a skill line that can only be reached by the best players, and then lost almost immediately? Why does it feel like I'm the only person who thinks of this?
This means that former emperors must have some of the emperorship powers, otherwise there would be no motivation for any of the players to work towards it.

You guys who call for former emperors to be "stripped of everything but the title" really shouldn't become devs...You cry for blood too easily

Why we are not? Because we dont want to be seen as exploiters, simple. I much more prefer my Captain title then ''Farmer Emperor''.Dedicate time mate? Please, small campaign, few friends, get title, resign, loose keep, next get it. Possible to do it several times without real effort, so dont say it require anything else then bunch of like-minded farmers.

What is wrong with it being farmable? It supposed to be reward for very few, possible skilled players, spending their time in Cyro, real Alliance leaders. Cant really compare it to farming mats or gold, that was bit silly, no offense.

Who said it cant be hold longer? Real, very few btw, Emperors in game will fight with teeth and nails to hold title, defending keeps, leading big groups, helping where help is needed. Seen it twice only...but doable for sure.

To sum it up mate i will just say one thing: i have seen lvl 23 FORMER EMPEROR myself...And title is not account-wide. Is that enough to explain how broken this mechanic is in game now?? Lvl 23...Prolly member of Farmer guild or group, who took it for lols when all others were feed. This is how ''hard'' it is to get. This is what i disagree with what you said.

If/when Zeni change system, and make farming impossible, so we will only have well earned and deserved Emperors and Formers, i will 100% agree that formers should be strong, maybe 30% Emperor strength. Until this happen: no damn way, FARMER title only.