Dragons? (or some other epic battle, doesn't have to be a dragon, that is just an example)
Pristia
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Anyone that played DAoC will remember: Cuuldurach the Glimmer King, Gjalpinulva, and Golestandt. I would really like to see something like this implemented into ESO, the fights were great and sometimes even getting to the dragons was a battle in itself, maybe there are no dragons in this time period, I'm not sure, but if not maybe some other kind of epic battle that would take a sizable group to defeat with maybe some special loot you can only get from said encounter.
Changed the title for all the people that are focusing on the dragon part. It's not just about dragons, I was talking about some form of epic battle that need 30-40-50 players of level 50+ to defeat.
Edited by Pristia on June 10, 2015 5:04PM Changed the title for all the people that are focusing on the dragon part. It's not just about dragons, I was talking about some form of epic battle that need 30-40-50 players of level 50+ to defeat.
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Humor✭✭✭They would probably have to go through Bethesda, and then make ESO skip a few hundred years, in order to bring back Dragon's, or that's my understanding to it, considering this game is supposed to be something like 1000 years before Skyrim.
Which isn't impossible, they could do some kind of "Story" mission like GW 1 did where you're in the future.
Again, as @AngryNord blatantly made it obvious... "Lore Masters".
Leaves me wondering if ESO is actually going to continue on with their Main Story, or if it's over now, and there's not much to look forward to TES wise.1 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭Anyone that played DAoC will remember: Cuuldurach the Glimmer King, Gjalpinulva, and Golestandt. I would really like to see something like this implemented into ESO, the fights were great and sometimes even getting to the dragons was a battle in itself, maybe there are no dragons in this time period, I'm not sure, but if not maybe some other kind of epic battle that would take a sizable group to defeat with maybe some special loot you can only get from said encounter.
Dragons were mythic in the era this mmo is set in. Its over 1000 years before skyrim, when dragons resurface because of the events in that game. Previously there had been a war with the dragons, an uprising by humanoid folk against the dragon overlords and their dragon-priest allies. Those events virtually destroyed the dragon population. Reducing them to a very insignificant number to the point where they became very endangered and shunned humanoid races because of dragon hunters. In this era there are probably no more than 15-20 dragons across the whole world, all hiding in forgotten places, retreating from any humanoid creature or other aggressors and never entering combat, hunting for prey secretively. It was very hard for dragons. And they would go on to spend the vast bulk of the time between ESO and skyrim, re-populating.
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Badh0rse✭✭✭I think that even if the lore dictates that there are no dragons they could put dragon like things in game. I have already fought some things that looked like a cross between a dragon and gargoyle. I personally think dragons would be cool but not as mounts .... or if they are mounts don't let them be mounted in town.The Evil League of Evil0 -
Pristia✭✭maybe there are no dragons in this time period, I'm not sure, but if not maybe some other kind of epic battle that would take a sizable group to defeat with maybe some special loot you can only get from said encounter.
The no dragons in the lore thing is why I posted this part. And by sizable group I'm meaning a good 30+ of level 50+ to defeat it.Edited by Pristia on August 8, 2014 2:21PMYou have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.
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✭✭There where dragons alive & prolly active in 2nd Era, just because current lore says "Nobody knows where they where" it doesn't mean there is no room for there.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/MirmulnirHe was last seen in the Reach in 2E 212[1] and didn't show up again until 4E 201
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Nahfahlaar
So he was alive beforeIn 2E 864 Cyrus infiltrated the Palace of Stros M'Kai through the Catacomb in order to acquire the soul gem. Cyrus was confronted by Nafaalilargus. After a long difficult battle, Cyrus managed to kill Nafaalilargus.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/AhbiilokAhbiilok was a dragon that survived extermination during the Dragon War and the Akaviri crusades of the First Era.
Sightings date back to the early years of the Akaviri Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerall Mountains. Multiple attempts were made to kill him, but all failed. He was reported to have fled to Morrowind.
Eat that you "No, not in Lore" people.
I bet we'll eventually have an End Game raid with dragons.Edited by TehMagnus on August 8, 2014 2:25PM6 -
Just because you can doesn't mean you should...
Really..cliff racers would be the most acceptable thing if they would ever do flying mounts. Personally I hope they wouldn't. it would make the world so small and honestly it doesn't seem that the world is "connected" in the game. If you noticed that when you go from different zones you load into them? It would be a massive bit of work and if you think the lag is bad now...the potential for lag would be worse I think.1 -
Auric_ESO✭✭✭✭Those dragon fights were epic. I remember going there with over 100 hibbies and we did have a bad time. I was the last lurikeen standing among a pile of 100 people. Every was laughing. Get him heraach! Like one enchanter and compatriot could do anything."The purpose of training is to tighten up the slack, toughen the body, and polish the spirit." Morihei Ueshiba0 -
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I see what you did there.kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »Well yeah..the dragons always break it....
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Pristia✭✭kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »Just because you can doesn't mean you should...
Really..cliff racers would be the most acceptable thing if they would ever do flying mounts. Personally I hope they wouldn't. it would make the world so small and honestly it doesn't seem that the world is "connected" in the game. If you noticed that when you go from different zones you load into them? It would be a massive bit of work and if you think the lag is bad now...the potential for lag would be worse I think.
What does this have to do with having an epic battle?Those dragon fights were epic. I remember going there with over 100 hibbies and we did have a bad time. I was the last lurikeen standing among a pile of 100 people. Every was laughing. Get him heraach! Like one enchanter and compatriot could do anything.
Loved those battles, those were the days when a wipe wasn't a reason to bad mouth your group and throw your pc out of the window, you just released and went on about your business or regrouped and tried again.Edited by Pristia on August 8, 2014 2:31PMYou have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.
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✭✭They could have random world events where an angry dragon that is awakened tries to invade an area of the world and all the players can come & fight them if they want 8).1 -
indytims_ESO✭✭✭✭I would -love- to see Dragons in the game in some form or fashion. They're iconic fantasy creatures, and this is a fantasy game.
As for Lore - with 'magic' in the world, the 'lore' fear can easily be gotten around. Throughout the game we 'relive' past battles, characters, and events... there is nothing saying that a Dragon encounter/raid/whatever could not be done in such a way. Even if it's not technically 'time travel', we do see -plenty- of ghosts from past time periods - hell, even on the AD side you get to rescue and bring back an Ayelid King!
So, sorry - the 'lore' excuse not to do it is just that - an excuse.
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✭Dragons can shout or the Tu'um, for them to work right, that needed to be added to the game. (Certain Draugr can as well) Yes, they are dragons still alive and around, but they are in hidden for good reason -- they are groups that are still hunting them. Just a paw full of dragons who are "awake" -- rest (99%) of them are dead or sleeping.
In short, they are no dragons in the 2nd era and they are very very very rare and they are far off places.1 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »Just because you can doesn't mean you should...
Really..cliff racers would be the most acceptable thing if they would ever do flying mounts. Personally I hope they wouldn't. it would make the world so small and honestly it doesn't seem that the world is "connected" in the game. If you noticed that when you go from different zones you load into them? It would be a massive bit of work and if you think the lag is bad now...the potential for lag would be worse I think.
This is not unique to ESO though. I have played 4 MMOs and every one of those have some areas you load into. [not counting buildings here, but actual full zones] I can think of one in particular where you can roam across the whole lv 1-50 landmass yet end up having to go into a huge mine and come out the other side and have another zone that is 60+ and another separate to that which goes to 65-70 and other zones which are 70-75 before you get to two huge landmasses that take you from 75-85 and 85-95 respectively before going on to a final [as it is now] zone that takes you to 100. My point being is realising a fully open environment that has no loading screens is surely incredibly hard to do?
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When not made from the beginning I think it could be. But I can't answer that only they could.
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And I already said maybe another kind of epic battle would be perhaps a good thing. I mention the cliff racers as acceptable as they were a bane in Morrowind and are a flying creature. The min you put in dragons someone wants to put a saddle on them. I apologize for my disconnect in my thought process. It is a few days before school starts and my three teens are driving me bat crap nuts. Edited by kassandratheclericb14_ESO on August 8, 2014 2:44PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just use the large winged daedra things and make one that is like super huge in place of dragons for group combat and maybe some not so huge for solo hunting. Not really a sandbox game, but I would love hunting rare creatures to fight.1 -
Pristia✭✭kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »When not made from the beginning I think it could be. But I can't answer that only they could.
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And I already said maybe another kind of epic battle would be perhaps a good thing. I mention the cliff racers as acceptable as they were a bane in Morrowind and are a flying creature. The min you put in dragons someone wants to put a saddle on them. I apologize for my disconnect in my thought process. It is a few days before school starts and my three teens are driving me bat crap nuts.
I got what your saying, my head was in another post that was talking about flying mounts, had that thought on my mind when I read your post.You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.
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✭I disagree that a single dragon encounter in a remote area would be any sort of lore break. That being said - ZOS already said "no dragons" iirc.
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Pristia✭✭I disagree that a single dragon encounter in a remote area would be any sort of lore break. That being said - ZOS already said "no dragons" iirc.
Again, that is why I added the part about maybe there are no dragons in this time period, I'm not sure, but if not maybe some other kind of epic battle that would take a sizable group to defeat with maybe some special loot you can only get from said encounter.
Without focusing on the dragon part, it's a post about an epic encounter. Dragon was just an example.Edited by Pristia on August 8, 2014 3:23PMYou have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.
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✭I thought molag bal was pretty epic, despite being fairly easy.
But large scale raids, which is what you are asking for, no.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.1 -
smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »I thought molag bal was pretty epic, despite being fairly easy.
But large scale raids, which is what you are asking for, no.
I would think it would be more fun like the guild wars there they spawn in the outside (not really like current world bosses) and would scale according to the number of folks there. But not like a set up raid..hey anyone want to do whatever. As many folks as wanted could participate.0 -
Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭They will have Dragons. It is only a matter of time. I mean....how much longer can the design team keep making boss monsters that are just mobs who are reskinned are bigger?
Oh and if you think they didnt put an art model in this game for Dragons...you are seriously in need of some sense.Edited by Thechemicals on August 8, 2014 3:39PMVr14 Templar since release- dual resto
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✭Thechemicals wrote: »They will have Dragons. It is only a matter of time. I mean....how much longer can the design team keep making boss monsters that are just mobs who are reskinned are bigger?
Oh and if you think they didnt put an art model in this game for Dragons...you are seriously in need of some sense.
you're right, they are just going to smash lore to pieces and that would be a great design decision.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
Elder scrolls has so many unexplored options for mega monsters. they did dragons, no need to again.
There is a little talked about continent of (forgot the name... thought atmora, but that isn't correct...:( )where we know about some things like snake people, and i forget the other details at the moment, but opportunity is there for awesome adventures. or an invasion of sorts by something from over there.
Side note - I wonder if Daedra are limited to Tamriel, if not, why not go to a place like that and open portals? invade, etc.Edited by ThoradinBloodfire on August 8, 2014 4:18PMThere is only one god and his name is Death. And there is only one thing we say to Death: “Not today...”
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Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »Thechemicals wrote: »They will have Dragons. It is only a matter of time. I mean....how much longer can the design team keep making boss monsters that are just mobs who are reskinned are bigger?
Oh and if you think they didnt put an art model in this game for Dragons...you are seriously in need of some sense.
you're right, they are just going to smash lore to pieces and that would be a great design decision.
not really. There are creative ways to do it without breaking the lore. I wouldnt be so linear about it. A number of quest send you to different time periods in this game and one even takes you to a "what if" future about a girl....Edited by Thechemicals on August 8, 2014 4:33PMVr14 Templar since release- dual resto
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Nicely done. Nicely done indeed.kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »Well yeah..the dragons always break it....
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R1ckyDaMan✭✭✭✭Please no I hated the world bosses in gw2 because my whole screen became a blob.
Also the game is designed in a way for old hardware to play it ok, these fights would be content that alot of players would not be able to do.Edited by R1ckyDaMan on August 8, 2014 4:55PM0
