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Fun with the crazy damage scalating (bug)

  • c0rp
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    Everytime ZoS takes a step forward in one aspect...its two steps back in another.
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • apostate9
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Krinaman wrote: »
    So what you are saying is you recorded yourself using an exploit and posted it on the forums.

    I don't think playing the game normally counts as an exploit. In this case it seems the only way he could avoid doing it would be not to play.

    Abusing a bug is an exploit. you and all know its not normal.
    All cheater say the same: "it's in game so it is not an exploit." but it is and read my signature.

    What did he do to abuse it? Swing his sword? Come of it, mate.
  • NerfEverything
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    Devlinne wrote: »
    Hey folks, thanks for all the helpful information. We're aware of this issue and are actively working on a fix that we'll roll out as soon as we can.

    My main vr12 Sorc is also a 2handed user like the one in the video.
    I was pvping for well over 10 hrs since patch...and i HAVE NOT......I REPEAT.....HAVE NOT....experienced anything like this.
    PLEASE don't nerf or 'temp fix" or TOUCH the 2 handed OR sorc lines because of this video.

    This is not, i repeat NOT a wide spread/common bug.

    By all means. Please investigate and fins out why it happened. But please don't just....."Umm theres a rotten apple on this tree....BURN THE FOREST TO THE GROUND NOW!!!"

    Read this post 10 times, forward it 100 times to the guys who fix stuff. make sure it SINKS IN.

    Thanks.

    You have no idea what you are talking about and you should not be giving advice.

    Just because you haven't figured out how to abuse this accidentally, it doesn't mean that hundreds of other people don't know how to abuse this intentionally.
  • DigitalHype
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    Tremulous wrote: »
    I feel like you're one of those 2 star boss mobs that one shots people with over head strike.

    I was just thinking the same. Yesterday I was in vet FG, and we were getting one-shot for over 6k. Maybe this is the norm now?

  • Arkadius
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    Tremulous wrote: »
    I feel like you're one of those 2 star boss mobs that one shots people with over head strike.

    I was just thinking the same. Yesterday I was in vet FG, and we were getting one-shot for over 6k. Maybe this is the norm now?

    So, now even npc monsters are aware of that exploit? :D
  • Lorkhan
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    @gendarkb16_ESO‌ do you use any assault passives? I wonder if it's a problem with continuous attack maybe where the duration is not expiring and it's just stacking the damage bonuses.

    makes sense
  • Jaxom
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    Xiana wrote: »
    Tremulous wrote: »
    I feel like you're one of those 2 star boss mobs that one shots people with over head strike.

    I was just thinking the same. Yesterday I was in vet FG, and we were getting one-shot for over 6k. Maybe this is the norm now?

    So, now even npc monsters are aware of that exploit? :D

    We need to BAN these NPC's exploiting. It's ruining my immersion.......
  • Obscure
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    Hey folks, thanks for all the helpful information. We're aware of this issue and are actively working on a fix that we'll roll out as soon as we can.

    Thanks for letting us know that you know.


    ...but at what point can we expect you all to start actively working on Quality Control? It's a very detrimental known issue that's persisted for quite some time.
  • danno8
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    apostate9 wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Krinaman wrote: »
    So what you are saying is you recorded yourself using an exploit and posted it on the forums.

    I don't think playing the game normally counts as an exploit. In this case it seems the only way he could avoid doing it would be not to play.

    Abusing a bug is an exploit. you and all know its not normal.
    All cheater say the same: "it's in game so it is not an exploit." but it is and read my signature.

    What did he do to abuse it? Swing his sword? Come of it, mate.

    He intentionally killed several dozen people in the video, who had no chance of fighting back, with full knowledge that a bug was causing his damage to be 10x higher than usual, which according to *him* was knowingly causing other players grief while calling it "fun" in his thread title.

    If you don't think that is abusing an exploit, then, to you, nothing must be.

    He should not use it, even if that means not playing PvP. Then he should go to ZoS and ask for some kind of personal restitution if he wishes. That is what a responsible adult would do.

    Edited by danno8 on August 6, 2014 7:23PM
  • GnatB
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    1. Using it *is* an exploit.
    2. If he doesn't log out when he sees it happening he is risking being banned.
    3. His best option would probably be to start removing skills from his bar to try to narrow down which one(s) are causing the problem, and then to avoid using them until it's fixed (and send that information on to ZoS). Buffs are probably the first place to look.
    4. Failing that, it may be a good time to try rolling an alt.
    Achievements Suck
  • zScars
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    I had a new bug in cyrodiil that the longer i play the more damage my abilities do, this bug just happens to be just before a crash to desktop (maybe a new memory leak bug or something with my skills setup).

    I don't know how to reproduce it and it only happened to me 2 times today and always after a long session of pvp and also always this bug precedes a crash to desktop. I notice my skills start doing more damage than normal and it can last around 10-30 mins the damage goes scalating till the game crash. And btw the damage goes increasing with all damage skills (magica and stamina).

    In the video the issue beings to be very OP at the minute 2:15 or so :) also you will see a 6000+ a 7000+ wrecking blows, 3000+ charges and also a nice caltrops at the end.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH55uvqlVIU

    Also I suppose that i am not the only one with this bug, but i didn't see this commented anywhere.
    update: It is happening also today. After lets say 15-25 minutes of playing all my damage starts increasing. Its not only crits or stamina skills, its all my damage including magic skills and siege weapons too.

    I try to relog once it starts to get really op 1500+ charges or so, but right now the queue to join pvp its starting to get serius so i can not do 10 mins of queue and then 5-10m more of playing and then having to relog again "just in case", by tonight the queues will be long.

    I am really sure i am not the only one with this bug, so don't kill the messenger :P

    PD: also i don't know why i should feel bad when "ejem" there are tons and tons of people insta killing me with other stuff like bow issues, animation canceling, invasion perma stun, op skills like bats or other stuff.


    PD: I don't know how to reproduce the bug so don't bother to ask.
    PD2: I am sorry to all the people that suffered my charges/wrecking blows in the video, but was very fun ;)

    If only there was a skill, that increased your weapon power.. and increases it even more every 2 seconds. dam.
    Edited by zScars on August 6, 2014 8:18PM
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  • gendarkb16_ESO
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    zScars wrote: »
    If only there was a skill, that increased your weapon power.. and increases it even more every 2 seconds. dam.

    If you read the post or watch the video... i said it was all my damage... magic skills like crystal shards, daedric mines, streak, even siege weapons, how is that related to weapon power ?

    As a side note it happens to me random not always (just had it 3 times in the 4-5h that I played today) and i always relog when find i start to have the bug and my damage is increasing, but i right now there is a +30 minutes or more queue to re-enter my campaign... so time to go to bed.
  • zScars
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    what set are you using
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  • Gaëloup
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    You die a lot for a guy who deal such a damage... :)
  • Kvasir Silverpaw
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    Krinaman wrote: »
    So what you are saying is you recorded yourself using an exploit and posted it on the forums.

    yes he did. one of the few honest people around. now maybe it'll get some major effing attention by zos staff to fix it. shame on you for making him sound bad. you must either be one enjoying the bug and pissed he told about it..or just an old fashioned troll, either way poo poo on you!
  • Troponin
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    Some of you folks are ridiculous. The only way he can realy avoid it is to just not play or change around his build. I don't see this as exploiting because he didn't and isn't going out of his way to do it. Give the guy a break.
  • Mortosk
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    That's pretty funny right there :)
    "Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)
  • Turelus
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    *sigh* what a state this game is in when a player can openly post six minutes of himself abusing a bug in PVP and ZOS don't care.

    In regards to the question of should they log out every time they have the issue, yes they should. Sure it's annoying for them but this is video footage of bug abuse, not a simple one or two hits without realising, but six minutes of footage where it's clear they can see what's going on.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • danno8
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    Troponin wrote: »
    Some of you folks are ridiculous. The only way he can realy avoid it is to just not play or change around his build. I don't see this as exploiting because he didn't and isn't going out of his way to do it. Give the guy a break.

    I am sure the 30 people he one-shotted would disagree with you. They would probably agree that he, and others who have the bug should stop playing until it is fixed so they can at least still play in a fair manner.

  • Ojustaboo
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    There was me thinking I was finally getting good at PvP sigh :)
  • Devlinne
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    You have no idea what you are talking about and you should not be giving advice.

    Just because you haven't figured out how to abuse this accidentally, it doesn't mean that hundreds of other people don't know how to abuse this intentionally.

    Oh? Lets see the track record of this forum. if something is really wide spread, or a common bug. HOW MANY threads are made on the same topic repeatedly,daily/ HMMMMM?

    Vamp bats, Bolt Escape, Silver bolts, etc etc. Need i go on. We all know whats the NORMAL reaction and behaviour of our dear forum goers to a REAL problem.
    This aint it.
    Look "Nerfeverything" I'm sure u wanna RP you're name in support of well....nerfing everything. But sometime BRAIN has to be engaged.

    Nice try tho.
    Devlinne: VR12 NB
    Demonos: VR12 Sorc
    Devin Flames: VR12 DK
    Hellzanger: VR12 Templar

    Thats right. ALL CLASSES.
  • Kypho
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    Devlinne wrote: »
    You have no idea what you are talking about and you should not be giving advice.

    Just because you haven't figured out how to abuse this accidentally, it doesn't mean that hundreds of other people don't know how to abuse this intentionally.

    Oh? Lets see the track record of this forum. if something is really wide spread, or a common bug. HOW MANY threads are made on the same topic repeatedly,daily/ HMMMMM?

    Vamp bats, Bolt Escape, Silver bolts, etc etc. Need i go on. We all know whats the NORMAL reaction and behaviour of our dear forum goers to a REAL problem.
    This aint it.
    Look "Nerfeverything" I'm sure u wanna RP you're name in support of well....nerfing everything. But sometime BRAIN has to be engaged.

    Nice try tho.

    A guy made video about a bug, reported it, put on forum so zeni can fix it. so fixing such bugs is nerf?
    Silver bolts. It had a bug what caused to one shot vamps 100% of the time, and you say they nerfed it so they dont getting one shotted?
    Vamp bats. Well just leave that topic. lulvamps.

    LoL you are ...
    Edited by Kypho on August 8, 2014 2:16PM
  • jovial
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    apostate9 wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Krinaman wrote: »
    So what you are saying is you recorded yourself using an exploit and posted it on the forums.

    I don't think playing the game normally counts as an exploit. In this case it seems the only way he could avoid doing it would be not to play.

    Abusing a bug is an exploit. you and all know its not normal.
    All cheater say the same: "it's in game so it is not an exploit." but it is and read my signature.

    What did he do to abuse it? Swing his sword? Come of it, mate.

    He intentionally killed several dozen people in the video, who had no chance of fighting back, with full knowledge that a bug was causing his damage to be 10x higher than usual, which according to *him* was knowingly causing other players grief while calling it "fun" in his thread title.

    If you don't think that is abusing an exploit, then, to you, nothing must be.

    He should not use it, even if that means not playing PvP. Then he should go to ZoS and ask for some kind of personal restitution if he wishes. That is what a responsible adult would do.

    Personal restitution, lol. If you think that would ever happen, you're delusional.

    Fact is many people pay subscription fees just to play PvP in this game. At the end of the day, if there is an exploit like this, there will be many players intentionally or unintentionally using it. And that's noones fault except Zenimax.

    Props to the OP for posting it, there's no point sweeping widespread exploits/bugs under the rug. Next content patch Zenimax might actually test the patch before they deploy it to live. Maybe. Probably not.
    Edited by jovial on August 8, 2014 3:24PM
  • Sighlynce
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    Ya, I was victim to some of this last night on Chillrend... Glad its a bug :p I looked at the report and was like daaaaaaaaaaamn.. funny
    "What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?" - Paarthurnax
  • Super_Sonico
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    Hey OP, what's the addon you're using for the damage stats in the bottom right of the screen?
  • gendarkb16_ESO
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    Good news ;)

    Finally after 4h-5h of extensive testing (killed lots of zombies in cyrodiil :P) and tested all my skills/gear/sets, I found what was causing the increased damage on all my skills / spells and was increasing the longer i fight.

    i am 99.9% sure that narrowed what was causing the bug and i am able to reproduce it (of course, i am will not say "how to" here :P).
    Already reported it to ZOS in-game and if any deb need to know more information just ask me by mail, fix it before its too late.

    Just wanted to let you know that "in theory" ZOS should know how to fix it.

    And now a funny screenshot :P

    HYCdal.jpg

    PD: of course now that i know how to reproduce it i will not do it, but if you get hit by a 2100-2300dmg wrecking blow from stealth and you are cloth user thats "normal" in this patch.

    PD2: the addon is called Combat Log Statistics

    Edited by gendarkb16_ESO on August 8, 2014 8:10PM
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    What does PD stand for?

    I don't know, if I was getting that bug and had to log off every time and then wait 30 mins in a queue... I might just go have fun with it. It would be a toss up between that and not playing but if it persisted -every day-... what is he supposed to do?
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  • Jaxom
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    Good news ;)

    Finally after 4h-5h of extensive testing (killed lots of zombies in cyrodiil :P) and tested all my skills/gear/sets, I found what was causing the increased damage on all my skills / spells and was increasing the longer i fight.

    i am 99.9% sure that narrowed what was causing the bug and i am able to reproduce it (of course, i am will not say "how to" here :P).
    Already reported it to ZOS in-game and if any deb need to know more information just ask me by mail, fix it before its too late.

    Just wanted to let you know that "in theory" ZOS should know how to fix it.

    And now a funny screenshot :P

    HYCdal.jpg

    PD: of course now that i know how to reproduce it i will not do it, but if you get hit by a 2100-2300dmg wrecking blow from stealth and you are cloth user thats "normal" in this patch.

    PD2: the addon is called Combat Log Statistics

    41k Wrecking blow.....holy crap.
  • danno8
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    jovial wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Krinaman wrote: »
    So what you are saying is you recorded yourself using an exploit and posted it on the forums.

    I don't think playing the game normally counts as an exploit. In this case it seems the only way he could avoid doing it would be not to play.

    Abusing a bug is an exploit. you and all know its not normal.
    All cheater say the same: "it's in game so it is not an exploit." but it is and read my signature.

    What did he do to abuse it? Swing his sword? Come of it, mate.

    He intentionally killed several dozen people in the video, who had no chance of fighting back, with full knowledge that a bug was causing his damage to be 10x higher than usual, which according to *him* was knowingly causing other players grief while calling it "fun" in his thread title.

    If you don't think that is abusing an exploit, then, to you, nothing must be.

    He should not use it, even if that means not playing PvP. Then he should go to ZoS and ask for some kind of personal restitution if he wishes. That is what a responsible adult would do.

    Personal restitution, lol. If you think that would ever happen, you're delusional.

    Fact is many people pay subscription fees just to play PvP in this game. At the end of the day, if there is an exploit like this, there will be many players intentionally or unintentionally using it. And that's noones fault except Zenimax.

    Props to the OP for posting it, there's no point sweeping widespread exploits/bugs under the rug. Next content patch Zenimax might actually test the patch before they deploy it to live. Maybe. Probably not.

    Game companies do, in fact, give credit and refunds all the time if the customer can show there is good reason. If you think this does not happen you are not delusional, you are simply wrong.

    In terms of whose fault it is? Well the programming bug is Zenimaxs' fault of course. But at some point you have to take some personal responsibility for exploiting it don't you?

    Unintentionally using it? Zenimaxs' fault.
    Intentionally using it? Your fault.

    If you were killed several times by the same guy exploiting the same bug over and over, you would honestly tell me you would in no way blame that player? Really?

    But hey, I don't expect some people to understand. The idea of giving up their own playtime/playstlyle so they don't screw over other people probably seems pretty ludicrous. There's like, morals and standards involved. It's way easier to blame the other guy.


  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    jovial wrote: »
    apostate9 wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Krinaman wrote: »
    So what you are saying is you recorded yourself using an exploit and posted it on the forums.

    I don't think playing the game normally counts as an exploit. In this case it seems the only way he could avoid doing it would be not to play.

    Abusing a bug is an exploit. you and all know its not normal.
    All cheater say the same: "it's in game so it is not an exploit." but it is and read my signature.

    What did he do to abuse it? Swing his sword? Come of it, mate.

    He intentionally killed several dozen people in the video, who had no chance of fighting back, with full knowledge that a bug was causing his damage to be 10x higher than usual, which according to *him* was knowingly causing other players grief while calling it "fun" in his thread title.

    If you don't think that is abusing an exploit, then, to you, nothing must be.

    He should not use it, even if that means not playing PvP. Then he should go to ZoS and ask for some kind of personal restitution if he wishes. That is what a responsible adult would do.

    Personal restitution, lol. If you think that would ever happen, you're delusional.

    Fact is many people pay subscription fees just to play PvP in this game. At the end of the day, if there is an exploit like this, there will be many players intentionally or unintentionally using it. And that's noones fault except Zenimax.

    Props to the OP for posting it, there's no point sweeping widespread exploits/bugs under the rug. Next content patch Zenimax might actually test the patch before they deploy it to live. Maybe. Probably not.

    Game companies do, in fact, give credit and refunds all the time if the customer can show there is good reason. If you think this does not happen you are not delusional, you are simply wrong.

    In terms of whose fault it is? Well the programming bug is Zenimaxs' fault of course. But at some point you have to take some personal responsibility for exploiting it don't you?

    Unintentionally using it? Zenimaxs' fault.
    Intentionally using it? Your fault.

    If you were killed several times by the same guy exploiting the same bug over and over, you would honestly tell me you would in no way blame that player? Really?

    But hey, I don't expect some people to understand. The idea of giving up their own playtime/playstlyle so they don't screw over other people probably seems pretty ludicrous. There's like, morals and standards involved. It's way easier to blame the other guy.


    I understand both sides. It would suck to have to just not pvp at all because of a bug you can't control, but would also suck to be on the other end of that bug.

    Maybe there's a creative way to keep playing though. Maybe just scout and burn siege weapons and run if people attack you :?.

    Doesn't sound like as much fun if you can't even hit anybody though.
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