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    Edited by Gilvoth on December 1, 2018 6:25PM
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    it was posted yesterday after this patch
    Edited by Gilvoth on December 1, 2018 6:25PM
  • naturn
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    A nightblade killed my v12 sorc with 2 hits in one second. I was there and dead in one blink.
    Edited by naturn on August 7, 2014 1:47AM
  • KBKB
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    naturn wrote: »
    A nightblade killed my v12 sorc with 2 hits in one second. I there and dead in one blink.

    From stealth if you are on your horse its almost a GG.
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    it was posted yesterday after this patch, obviously it is exactly what was the reason for the massive damage dealt to us

    "Obviously."

    Im betting you got killed by a vamp sorc not even using any type of 2H like in the video.
  • Kypho
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    naturn wrote: »
    A nightblade killed my v12 sorc with 2 hits in one second. I there and dead in one blink.

    From stealth if you are on your horse its almost a GG.

    And NB is not what killing you, anyone can kill you from stealth if you are on horse.
  • c0rp
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    In other news...Soul Tether is one shotting people.
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • KBKB
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Black-Bird wrote: »
    naturn wrote: »
    A nightblade killed my v12 sorc with 2 hits in one second. I there and dead in one blink.

    From stealth if you are on your horse its almost a GG.

    And NB is not what killing you, anyone can kill you from stealth if you are on horse.

    Solid point, I like to shard then soul ulti people passing by its over pretty quick.
  • griszax
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    it was posted yesterday after this patch, obviously it is exactly what was the reason for the massive damage dealt to us

    So first You come to forums whine about imbalance of classes and then You agree it was a bugg that allowed that op and imbalanced sorc to kill You all ?
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  • Ridicularded
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    The one thing about Sorcs that I find OP is the Disintegrate passive. I've literally dropped from 2k health to 0 in what seems like 1 hit. Normally I do okay against Sorcs because I just Unstable Core any caster and they eat themselves while I Javelin/Charge/Execute repeat, plus an instant heal is nice. Other than that, I don't really have issues fighting Sorcs. A killing blow can be difficult sometimes because of tele, but that's not spammed as much anymore due to the rising cost.

    But every other class has an OP aspect to them, so in my opinion, balancing isn't as bad as people think it is.
    Edited by Ridicularded on August 6, 2014 3:32PM
  • KBKB
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    The one thing about Sorcs that I find OP is the Disintegrate passive. I've literally dropped from 2k health to 0 in what seems like 1 hit. Normally I do okay against Sorcs because I just Unstable Core any caster and they eat themselves while I Javelin/Charge/Execute repeat, plus an instant heal is nice. Other than that, I don't really have issues fighting Sorcs. A killing blow can be difficult sometimes because of tele, but that's not spammed as much anymore due to the rising cost.

    But every other class has an OP aspect to them, so in my opinion, balancing isn't as bad as people think it is.

    Whaaa

    Its for low health targets so 2k would be imposs.
  • ruzlb16_ESO
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    Kypho wrote: »
    To the ppl who reply with crap: Just because you missing some bugs out, dont need to call someone bad player. As you will see, its possible for a sorc to do insane damage. So, before you call someone noob, maybe search for informations and you will see that he is not the noob, its you.

    While I'd normally give him the benefit of the doubt, the OP was rolling in Cyrodiil with 7 people who hadn't managed to take a single healing skill between them. Not one dude out of all 7 figured spending one out of their 300+ skill points in Resto staff might be a good idea, in a zone where 500+ people are trying to kill you. That doesn't suggest a lot of preparation or planning going on, or a great deal of experience in PvP.

    The OP's group likely wasn't buffing each other or operating any real synergy; since they seem to have no heals or CC it pretty much sounds like they were rolling with the ever-popular 0-Utility build of the PvE DPS. You know the one - 1.8k health, no food buff, no CC, no healing, just 5 damage skills to be spammed until the mana runs out and let everyone else babysit your health bar. A build that's fine for a PvE DPS but has the survivability of an ice frying pan in PvP.

    Let's be honest here - would any experienced, decently-geared PvP player of any class have much difficulty killing seven disorganised lowbie players, given there's no heals or shields going up? Just by liberal use of Healing Ward, you're able to muster more staying power than all 7 put together. A templar could simply use melee attacks and occasionally drop a big heal. A DK could keep spell reflect up and just use GDB whenever they get him to 40% health. A NB would probably kill three of them before they realised he was even there. And every time you drop one of them, that's reduced the incoming DPS for more nuking.

    Running a PvP group without any heals is means you don't really get to say anything is overpowered. You gimped yourself, and you paid the price for it.
  • Bramir
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    The problem these seven players had is pretty obvious...any skilled player with the ability to heal would have wiped them, as they didn't have any healers.

    There really isn't anything else to this...learn to heal. There is no longer such a thing as a dps class, so stop acting like everyone else is responsible for healing you.
  • Azarul
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    If it truly was the damage bug why didn't anyone notice the 3-7k damage hits on their death recap and screenshot it?
  • Lowbei
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    MY question is... was it "Naming and Shaming" for him to name himself and his 6 pals.

    those 6 other people probably feel "shamed" that they got "named" for dying to a solo sorc.
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    i hope pixystickz is reading this thread and is laughing, someone tell him in-game that this thread is about him so he can come laugh at it in case he didnt know it existed. i forgot how to exactly spell his name.
  • Nala_
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    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.

    Its probably hard ward, and surge is more likely to be what is healing him to full.
  • ItsRejectz
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    i used all my stamina and all my magicka did all the damage i could as a nightblade duel wield, im vet 12 and the sorcerer was a vet 12. i was with 6 other people and we all stayed close together. that sorcerer did massive damage to us one at a time and when his health got low he simply cast a spell that made his health full instantly.
    i was with a vet 8, a vet 10 and a few others that were about lv 45 to vet1.
    complete imbalance in eso for the sorcerers and dragonights. it's rediculas.
    that sorcerer killed all of us in under 30 seconds.

    There is no sorcerer skill that heals full instantly, also I doubt it was a sorcerer as they are more glass cannons and have some of the least survivability.

    You sure it wasn't a temp?
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  • Lowbei
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    all 7 of them have no idea what it was.

    could have been a mob
  • Halrloprillalar
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.

    Its probably hard ward, and surge is more likely to be what is healing him to full.

    Means those 7 have little to no impen gear...

    Where can I find these guys?
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.

    Its probably hard ward, and surge is more likely to be what is healing him to full.
    hard ward is useless..why the hell would anyone use it lol...not to mention the noob in my guild who died with the OP said the sorc was pixystickz, and pixy uses healing ward. also theres no reason to use crit surge if you use healing ward, its just a waste of mana.
    Edited by Nala_ on August 6, 2014 6:17PM
  • smtdbplus
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    naturn wrote: »
    A nightblade killed my v12 sorc with 2 hits in one second. I there and dead in one blink.

    Agree, few weeks ago I sneaked with another NB behind a guy busy with his siege weapon. It took 2 shots from each of us to kill him within 1 sec, 5 seconds later I then realized I got emperor slayer achievement. :D

    NB kills fast or being killed fast, lots of fun.


  • Halrloprillalar
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.

    Its probably hard ward, and surge is more likely to be what is healing him to full.
    hard ward is useless..why the hell would anyone use it lol...not to mention the noob in my guild who died with the OP said the sorc was pixystickz, and pixy uses healing ward. also theres no reason to use crit surge if you use healing ward, its just a waste of mana.

    hardened ward is useless?? oO
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.

    Its probably hard ward, and surge is more likely to be what is healing him to full.
    hard ward is useless..why the hell would anyone use it lol...not to mention the noob in my guild who died with the OP said the sorc was pixystickz, and pixy uses healing ward. also theres no reason to use crit surge if you use healing ward, its just a waste of mana.

    hardened ward is useless?? oO

    everyone has known hardened ward is useless compared to healing ward since beta, how are you just finding this out now?
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    Nala_ wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Nala_ wrote: »
    You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

    healing ward is instant cast....the noob in my guild said he just kept putting a shield on himself for "his whole health bar" every 3-4 seconds then would continue killing them.

    Its probably hard ward, and surge is more likely to be what is healing him to full.
    hard ward is useless..why the hell would anyone use it lol...not to mention the noob in my guild who died with the OP said the sorc was pixystickz, and pixy uses healing ward. also theres no reason to use crit surge if you use healing ward, its just a waste of mana.

    hardened ward is useless?? oO

    everyone has known hardened ward is useless compared to healing ward since beta, how are you just finding this out now?

    Hardened ward lasts longer, making it easier to use as a blanket for either harness/dampen magicka. Its freaking awesome for bubble specs and soloing. Not locked to a weapon skill and doesn't require you to be injured to get the 900 absorb. Stack it with harness magicka and nom nom.
    Edited by KBKB on August 6, 2014 7:48PM
  • SBR_QuorTek
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    All this restro staff/destro lol... but again people are like playing the game without style... the skill is winning it with style, and these 7 people, if they worked a little bit together it would had been a pushover with or without healing as it is.

    Currently people are just trolling this thread,but it is unfortune for those 7 people, and technically a great/lucky job done by the sorc.

    That is all what is about it really lol
  • Lowbei
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    hardened ward stacks on top of annulments absorb, thus they have to burn thru all of hardened ward while its got the 50% absorb, just to get to your annulment ward.

    works for me
  • Nala_
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Hardened ward lasts longer, making it easier to use as a blanket for either harness/dampen magicka. Its freaking awesome for bubble specs and soloing.

    if youre solo

    hardened ward casts a shield on you,

    healing ward heals you, then shields you, then heals you for the entire remaining shield when its duration ends.

    ...are you trolling me that hardened ward is better for soloing...or just ***?
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