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Skafsgaard · August 2014

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

I can't even dream about feeling as overpowered as the OP suggests I am.

You are no OP - your class is.

Lowbei · August 2014

lol

Erock25 · August 2014

OP only has 5 lols? You guys suck

cfriedman71ub17_ESO · August 2014

Artemiisia wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

a night-blade can take me down in 3 secs if I dont see him coming, so no sorcerer aint too powerfull.

for me its a clear picture that 7 people in a group and without heals, are doing something seriously wrong.....

Double negative, you just agreed with the OP

no I didnt re read it again. OP is a nb and have 6 friends, that cant even kill a sorcerer which I am, normally I would die in 3 secs or less if the night blade attacks me off guard.

and even so 7 players that cant even take down a sorcerer is doing something seriously wrong.

SO NO I dont agree with OP, not even the slightness

Actually your grammar is incorrect. Should be "so no, I don't agree..."
Without comma it is a double negative. It is also nitpicky.

Artemiisia · August 2014

cfriedman71ub17_ESO wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

a night-blade can take me down in 3 secs if I dont see him coming, so no sorcerer aint too powerfull.

for me its a clear picture that 7 people in a group and without heals, are doing something seriously wrong.....

Double negative, you just agreed with the OP

no I didnt re read it again. OP is a nb and have 6 friends, that cant even kill a sorcerer which I am, normally I would die in 3 secs or less if the night blade attacks me off guard.

and even so 7 players that cant even take down a sorcerer is doing something seriously wrong.

SO NO I dont agree with OP, not even the slightness

Actually your grammar is incorrect. Should be "so no, I don't agree..."
Without comma it is a double negative. It is also nitpicky.

Well im not English shoot me

Tamanous · August 2014

This is more a level and gear difference than class. Make sure to not make assumptions without regard to other issues impacting this.

If your gear was similar then you have the option to choose a build that can negate the obvious advantages the sorc had over you. Anyone pre-vet 5 would not stand a chance against a skilled vet 12 anyway. Basically the fight was you against the sorc. Any good vet-12 NB could pick you off 1 at a time as a well.

eliisra · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

no one did that. i didnt do that.
heres the facts. sorcerers and dragonights deal way too much damage that nightblades and templars cant handle and cant compete with.
plain and simple

My main is a VR 12 Templar. I don't agree with you what so ever. I have no problems with sorcs and DK's. They dont hit me that hard. They aren't hard to counter either, especially after the cc nerf.

My biggest issue is NB's, they hit way harder. No other class can kill me in 2-3 seconds. I cant even break out of they're initial cc half the time (which I assume is some sort of bug or glitch). After this patch it's even worse, been getting absolutely demolished by Soul Tether today.

Rune_Relic · August 2014

Perhaps that sorc was hiding 7 other players in the same spot with synchronised combat and you got zerged

I have no opinion on nurfing. I am surprised you alll got totalled by one sorc though.

Gilvoth · August 2014

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Fuzzylumpkins · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

i used all my stamina and all my magicka did all the damage i could as a nightblade duel wield, im vet 12 and the sorcerer was a vet 12. i was with 6 other people and we all stayed close together. that sorcerer did massive damage to us one at a time and when his health got low he simply cast a spell that made his health full instantly.
i was with a vet 8, a vet 10 and a few others that were about lv 45 to vet1.
complete imbalance in eso for the sorcerers and dragonights. it's rediculas.
that sorcerer killed all of us in under 30 seconds.

Because vet levels mean anything in this heap of a game. How about particulars like stats, classes, gear, etc. As for "close" together, problem 1 is you are all bad. Spread out, toss some ae heals and absorbs to the dps while they cc, silence and dps the sorc. Or just stand there, be bad, die and come to forums to cry about how awful your group was at being prepared.

Btw, when I was still playing , it wasn't unusual for me to drop 8man+ groups without breaking a sweat. Was it because I was a sorc? No, it is because I wasn't awful.

-Appropriate settings, prepared with the correct vr5 pots and foods and abilities set up to destroy clumps of bads

SBR_QuorTek · August 2014

Honestly... I don't want to leave a comment... I mean... well let us leave it at that... lol

The Sorc though must had been thinking when battle started... 'this is not going to end well' for then realizing having the upper hand when 7 people do mistake after mistake after mistake, believe it was a well played scenario.

Lowbei · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

the problem would easily be fixed if we nightblades had a "insta heal to full health skill" that is able to be repeated over and over just like the sorcerers and dragonights have. and also be able to do the same amount of damage they do and also be able to knock people down repeatedly like they can. = problem solved.

im not asking for a nerf, im just asking for equal balance and fairness in pvp.
theres NO need to decrease thier powers or skills. it's to Increase ours to be equal to them is whats being ignored.
nerfing other clases just ruins the game.
bring us up to thier level is all thats needed.

the classes are fine, and we wont be nerfing or buffing anything just because some new players died to a sorc.

Gilvoth · August 2014

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Gilvoth · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

the problem would easily be fixed if we nightblades had a "insta heal to full health skill" that is able to be repeated over and over just like the sorcerers and dragonights have. and also be able to do the same amount of damage they do and also be able to knock people down repeatedly like they can. = problem solved.

im not asking for a nerf, im just asking for equal balance and fairness in pvp.
theres NO need to decrease thier powers or skills. it's to Increase ours to be equal to them is whats being ignored.
nerfing other clases just ruins the game.
bring us up to thier level is all thats needed.

the classes are fine, and we wont be nerfing or buffing anything just because some new players died to a sorc.

oh, your a elderscrolls online developer?

Tamanous · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

the problem would easily be fixed if we nightblades had a "insta heal to full health skill" that is able to be repeated over and over just like the sorcerers and dragonights have. and also be able to do the same amount of damage they do and also be able to knock people down repeatedly like they can. = problem solved.

What is the "insta heal to full health skill" sorcs seem to have in your world? They have pots and can use a resto-staff like anyone else. They have no class skills that can self-heal outside of direct combat. Even that can be negated greatly through gearing.

Knock downs/backs/ups can be taken by all classes outside of their class kills. Sorcs in fact have inferior options for this within class skills than DK and Templar. NB have superior stun capacity over sorc.

People sure go out of their way to fabricate reasons why they fail at pvp. It could never be that the other player has a more competitive build, is better at pvp and even have better gear ... it can only be pure class superiority. /facepalm

Lowbei · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

he attacked us as we were all handing in a quest and starting a new one. we were all talking to the quest giver.

LOLOLOLOLOL

so you 7 were pveing in a pvp zone? this post keeps getting better

Durham · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

none of the people i was with are new players.
it's well known that sorcerers and dragonights are simply too powerfull. it has nothing to do with the lack of skills of other people.

Actually not play in pvp a while you will kill plenty ...

Durham · August 2014

Its these DKs in all light with a stick that keeps getting the tank oriented classed nerfed.... Two Handed, Sword and Shield are not Over Powered... Not all DKs are OP its the caster DK....

Durham · August 2014

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

no not at all Hlaren, its just that for me as a sorcerer the race I fear the most in this game for pvp is the night blade actually, surprise attack and im dead in 3 secs

As a DK, I concur with this opinion. NBs are my most feared enemies as well. I simply laugh when people complain about NBs being broken or uncompetitive in PVP.

As another DK, I have to agree, a NB can ambush me and kill me in 2 - 3 secs no problem. That's why I spend 20 -30 mins sneaking arcross the map LOL. I can't even dream about feeling as overpowered as the OP suggests I am.

Yep marked and you better walk around with shield out for 1 min or you will be dead in 2 secs you will never get up lol..

RedTalon · August 2014

Spread out when fighting a sorc and knit the heck of them, have a stun ready and remember take turns stunning has stuns no longer stack and same for roots can't do both anymore.

And always good to bring a healer and if you are staying close together circle of perversion if a must.

Rylana · August 2014

OP let me break it down for you like this.

In the hands of competent players....

Templar beats Dragonknight
Dragonknight beats Sorc
Sorc beats Templar

Nightblade beats all and is beaten by all depending on configuration

Xsorus · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

you guys must really think we are stupid

No, but standing in a clump vs a sorc is about the least intelligent thing you can do.

no one did that. i didnt do that.
heres the facts. sorcerers and dragonights deal way too much damage that nightblades and templars cant handle and cant compete with.
plain and simple

Pfft...Wait till you see a Blazing Shield Templar

zScars · August 2014

you weren't kidding when you said you would go to the forums.

google critical surge. and try to stay out of my bats

Comaetilico · August 2014

zScars wrote: »

you weren't kidding when you said you would go to the forums.

google critical surge. and try to stay out of my bats

exactly what I thought... crit surge + cristal blast = 900+ hp... IF you crit... and in PvP almost everybody should know that impenetrable is a must have (either that or you get one shotted by every NB... sorc will self heal while kiling you... templar will slam you with biting jabs... and dk will kill aoe with standard crit...

stick toghter... is good only if your group is reactive enough to spread out when you have to... for example when the enemy pop up a vampire ultimate...

last... use those damn CC... even 1 sec is enough for 7 player to kill one if he can't do a thing due to CC...

you failed in all those 3... and failed hard...

jeradlub17_ESO · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

i used all my stamina and all my magicka did all the damage i could as a nightblade duel wield, im vet 12 and the sorcerer was a vet 12. i was with 6 other people and we all stayed close together. that sorcerer did massive damage to us one at a time and when his health got low he simply cast a spell that made his health full instantly.
i was with a vet 8, a vet 10 and a few others that were about lv 45 to vet1.
complete imbalance in eso for the sorcerers and dragonights. it's rediculas.
that sorcerer killed all of us in under 30 seconds.

That wasn't a sorc. That was a dk in cloth with a staff. They have the spells to do that, a sorc doesn't.

shidoq8 · August 2014

no no no you are all wrong. I want dks with streak bolting in and out dropping banners with magma shell heuheuheu.

kitchenguy65_ESO · August 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

where do you get the idea im and my group are new players. we are not new to eso.

Being new to the game, and being new to PvP are two completely different things.

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

you guys must really think we are stupid

No, but standing in a clump vs a sorc is about the least intelligent thing you can do.

no one did that. i didnt do that.
heres the facts. sorcerers and dragonights deal way too much damage that nightblades and templars cant handle and cant compete with.
plain and simple

Funny, your OP says otherwise.

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

i used all my stamina and all my magicka did all the damage i could as a nightblade duel wield, im vet 12 and the sorcerer was a vet 12. i was with 6 other people and we all stayed close together. that sorcerer did massive damage to us one at a time and when his health got low he simply cast a spell that made his health full instantly.
i was with a vet 8, a vet 10 and a few others that were about lv 45 to vet1.
complete imbalance in eso for the sorcerers and dragonights. it's rediculas.
that sorcerer killed all of us in under 30 seconds.

Also sorcs don't have an instant heal. The only class heal they have is either from winged twilight or crit surge, which requires you to crit in order to heal. All other heals come from resto staff.

Call sorcs and DKs OP all you like, doesn't make it true.

Xsorus · August 2014

It could of been a sorc with a Restro staff

thomaswinkworthb16_ESO · August 2014

You can't heal/shield and deal damage, so you was allowing him to deal damage... It's really simple, you don't allow him to deal damage by forcing him to heal/shield

Columba · August 2014

lol heals, barriers, etc etc. shouldn't lose to a single sorc. sorry. I get at range and mark/snipe them in 2-3 shots. weaving light attacks and a silver shard in between. not difficult.