There was a nice ambush combo even before this patch which is:
Snipe\Lethal Arrow\Focused Aim, Fully Charged Heavy attack followed up by any skill you would like to use to finish off your opponent.

The trick is, when you use Snipe while sneaking, it get Ambush bonus, however it does not get you out of stealth if you not close to enemy.
Snipe not only have a cast time, but also have about 1.5-2 secons CD before it actualy lands on enemy.
Therefore you are able instantly start Charging Heavy attack as soon as your Snipe attack casted and release it BEFORE or at the same time as Snipe attack lands.

At the end you do double ambush damage and your second (Heavy attack) also have Focused Aim damage bonus if it were cast instead of Lethal Arrow.

Also it seems alot of people complaign that they can not see any arrow animation when attacking. This can be another proof that all those sudden deaths come from bow attacks.

P.S. Using Wrecking blow in sneak as NB usualy lands over 3k ambush damage even before that patch (ofc if you have decent weapon and some other weapon damage buff and nice ammount of stamina).

Blazing Shield kill the most of you I think.
You can't see that dmg in the recap

Sometimes it hits me for over 4k instantly cause its buggy and can be stacked.

Animation canceling.. YAY!

Renuo wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Whenever Funnel Health is involved or Lethal Arrow, my HP bar suddenly drops from 100% to 0% in below 1 second, with only small numbers displaying. This one is definately new.

Era of the NBs, ha? But I think there`s something buggy, either display wise or mechanics wise. It just doesn`t feel like burst, it`s just the HP bar dropping to zero, no chance to react.

My bet is on bug.

It really feels like a bug, being a guy on the other side it seems like I'm not hurting and then they die and often if theres some server lag or something it appears theres no animations in all of that.

Exactly how I am experiencing it on the receiving end

The soul magic Ultimate has channelling of seconds, while doing 3000 damage, and still you have enough time to use potions, heals (if you are Templar) or Harness Magicka to half it's damage outright. (or if you are DK reflect scales and send it back).

Except they bugged it now and is doing all the damage before the channel.

Still 3000hp to 0 in 1 second, is broken, and that wasn't happening even if you had 3-4 people hitting you (it was taking more time).

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

1. Everyone is doing more damage (higher caps)
2. Some attacks don't animate and land all at once after a delay, resulting in 'full hp bar slide around' nonsense, death recap being totally unhelpful in this regard
3. weapon swap causing really bizarre artifacts like gear that you took off reappearing, going invisible, wrong weapon appears equipped, etc.

this

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

We had a NB take 6 people out the other night, sniping us from stealth. The deaths were almost instantaneous and he hardly broke out of stealth at all.

The deaths were so sudden it took us a few mins to actually work out what was going on.

My death recap just had Focused Aim (snipe morph) and a heavy attack.

As a NB I tried this out. Even with ring adjustments to push weapon damage to 180, crit just shy of 50%, mark, weapon power pot and using cloak I still could not do it.

For this guy to zap 6 players in less than 2 mins there must be some angle to it.

I have 230 weapon damage, trust me its not about crit.

Now, when i got killed by this myself i can confirm what i said. This IS a double Lethal Arrow or Lethal Arrow + Heavy attack ambush combo. First part of damage doesnt show in Death Recap.

I swapped back to my 5H/2L setup of the past yesterday to test out survivability. I stayed up longer, definitely, though resources and damage output are still an issue without the light armor on.

dcincali wrote: »

I took a 3.2k Soul assault to the face with 2046 Spell resist.. Tasted yummy..

That's not new :P

I hate soul assault and yes people are hitting harder much harder in some cases... Mostly the stick people When are they going to take immovable away from all cloth wearing casters

Baphomet wrote: »

Macroing = insta-death.

Every other nightblade is doing it nowadays.


@Zenimax has been notified about the issue. Let's see what they can do about it.

Doubt it's macroing. It's extremely easy to do these things with your fingers.

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Health just doesn't update with bow attacks. I point my bow at anyone with less than 3.2k health from stealth they're dying with full health. Their bodies will be on the ground (often sliding a fair bit) with anything from half to full health still showing. Other people were seeing the same thing on the people I was hitting and I spoke to a couple I'd killed who reported that they just dropped dead without notice - no animations/sounds etc.

Totally busted but then so is Cyro really. Laggy, pathetic state it's in. And I was playing in Oceanic prime time when it's quiet (AD, DC, EP: 2,1,2 bars respectively).

All of these things.

Í experience this damage lag even in PvE now. Just fought 2 wasps in craglorn and the first 1's health didnt drop at all until it suddenly died and the same happened for the other one and even while dead it still showed it at full health´

EDIT: Yes I used a bow, this seems to be the culprit.