All they need to do to make heavy armour viable is to make the armour skills, like immovable, only work with 5+ armour pieces. Suddenly light armour is exactly that; light

Soloeus wrote: »

Soraellion wrote: »

All they need to do to make heavy armour viable is to make the armour skills, like immovable, only work with 5+ armour pieces. Suddenly light armour is exactly that; light

That wouldn't make it "viable" at all. That would just stop 80% of people from using it, and force them to use other Wards and Mitigation instead. Raising the Heavy Armor Bonus, Raising Armor Caps and making abilities that increase Armor not count toward soft cap.

That would allow a Heavy Armor character to be as good at taking damage as DPS characters are at dealing it.

No, it would give heavy armour its niche and advantage. You want immovable, use heavy. You want magic/stam bonuses, use light or medium. Suddenly light armour tanks have a disadvantage, suddenly magic users in pvp, ie just about all of them, will have to make choices.

Soraellion wrote: »

No, it would give heavy armour it's niche and advantage. You want immovable, use heavy. You want magic/stam bonuses, use light or medium. Suddenly light armour tanks have a disadvantage, suddenly magic users in pvp, ie just about all of them, will have to make choices.

Exactly. At long last, the only people probably "complaining" even on the suggestion that such an advantageous skill as immovable should actually require the use of Heavy Armour (and several pieces) are the "mages".

Who are all too happy to use it at their utter convenience without having to part with their beloved evening gowns, so essentially having the best of both, and probably the best benefit Heavy Armour has to offer, at no cost.

Isn't it lovely when a totally broken and biased "mechanic" allows you to play in "god mode"? And ESO devs merrily allowing it for several months.

From what I have read the amount magicka and stamina restored is 0.15% of your healthpool, per piece of heavy armor. So let us say we take a 7 piece fullplate armor. That is 1.05%.
Based on the 3000 HP healthpool the other lad used as an example that's 31.5 magicka and stamina.

Now, since I can't log in I'm going to guess, but let's say green dragonsblood costs about 450 magicka, it would take about 14 hits to have regenerated enough magicka to cast it.

Which seems rather ***, in comparison to how much easier it would've been to cast this in light armor. Until we realize by this time we've also regenerated 450 stamina along with our magicka.

My conclusion, based upon what I've read, is that while heavy armor is still subpar for PVP purposes, and most PVE purposes, it has taken a step in the right direction.
For solo questing, it's a nice little extra.
For tanking, this might give heavy armor an edge over leather, and make it almost, if not equally good for tanking as the light armor currently is.

Solanum wrote: »

From what I have read the amount magicka and stamina restored is 0.15% of your healthpool, per piece of heavy armor. So let us say we take a 7 piece fullplate armor. That is 1.05%.
Based on the 3000 HP healthpool the other lad used as an example that's 31.5 magicka and stamina.

Now, since I can't log in I'm going to guess, but let's say green dragonsblood costs about 450 magicka, it would take about 14 hits to have regenerated enough magicka to cast it.

Which seems rather ***, in comparison to how much easier it would've been to cast this in light armor. Until we realize by this time we've also regenerated 450 stamina along with our magicka.

My conclusion, based upon what I've read, is that while heavy armor is still subpar for PVP purposes, and most PVE purposes, it has taken a step in the right direction.
For solo questing, it's a nice little extra.
For tanking, this might give heavy armor an edge over leather, and make it almost, if not equally good for tanking as the light armor currently is.

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Even if light armor was on the same level as heavy for tanking that would make no sense. So the fact that light armor is the better choice is just a joke. Come on Zeni use your noggin

#Common Sense

ThoradinBloodfire wrote: »

alreadybaked wrote: »

Even if light armor was on the same level as heavy for tanking that would make no sense. So the fact that light armor is the better choice is just a joke. Come on Zeni use your noggin

#Common Sense

right, cause cloth is awesome at impact reduction! (oh noes i didnt..)

Maybe Zos should make padded cloth armor jerkins like medieval types used to wear once upon a century. Imagine puffy wizards dressed like Hans and Franz.
(80's SnL reference for all the kiddos..)

lmao that'd be a site to see

Also, I'm reading that light armor types can reach the cap, but this has to be by using skills that eat up magicka. So, if you are wearing heavy armor, you don't have to use up your magicka/stamina to boost your total armor and can use that resource on another damage skill.
Or am I missing something here?

Solanum‌ wrote:

Now, since I can't log in I'm going to guess, but let's say green dragonsblood costs about 450 magicka, it would take about 14 hits to have regenerated enough magicka to cast it.

You can just block it. Pretty nice for tanking IMO.

In the middle of battle it dont gave you permament result like potion but I'm agree with @Medieval_Miss81‌ that it's a little buff to your magika and stamina regen. So we have little buff and noone can say that heavy armor become OP.